Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union/Style

Upcoming and recent fixtures

I propose removing this section from the style guide because I don't think it reflects the consensus of this WikiProject. This section mentions that "consensus has been reached between the project members" that they should be removed, but I don't think such consensus exists. The section cites this discussion as evidence of consensus. The supposed "consensus" is a proposal from one editor that they be removed, a second proposal from a second editor regarding a different way of presenting the information, and then further discussion about the second proposal with no meaningful discussion of the original proposal regarding removal. Several national rugby union teams have these sections, and I find them informative. Additionally, these sections are in many national football team articles, further suggesting that these sections do not violate Wikipedia principles. Barryjjoyce (talk) 03:23, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry but this has been the case for a long time. We aren't a news site (WP:NOTNEWS) or guide for upcoming events. As well, there may be several national team articles that still include these lists, but those that have gone through the Featured article process (England, France, New Zealand and Wales) do not have them, nor did they during WP:FAC. In fact I'm not sure of any FA-quality sports team articles that include a list of recent and upcoming fixtures, although I haven't checked them all, so this may say something about the Wikipedia-wide view on such things. Also, this talkpage here is a bit quiet. I'm not sure how many people would even have noticed your post. If you want to bring this up and over-turn the current convention, I'd take it to WT:RU and you may find a few more editors active there. -- Shudde ^talk 03:03, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Fair point about this being a quiet page. I'll copy and paste the above discussion onto the main WP:RU page, and we (and others) can discuss there. Barryjjoyce (talk) 22:58, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Discussion for adequate changes

Would there be interest in resolving some ongoing conflicts regarding the suggested layout for player biographies? Over my years of editing rugby union articles, I’ve noticed that many editors, myself included, have strong views on how these biographies should be structured. Reaching a consensus on the points listed below could help reduce the recurring editing disputes.

Lead

I think we should take inspiration from the Manual of Style used for association football player biographies. I’ve outlined three possible approaches for writing the lead: one for players representing their country of birth, another for those representing a different country, and a third for players who have represented both codes of rugby. This area has been the source of frequent conflicts and edit wars, so reaching a clear resolution would go a long way toward tidying up many articles.

• Andrew John Kellaway (born 12 October 1995) is an Australian professional rugby union player who plays as a wing for Super Rugby club New South Wales Waratahs and the Australia national team.
• Jamison Ratu Gibson-Park (born 23 February 1992) is a professional rugby union player who plays as a scrum-half for United Rugby Championship club Leinster. Born in New Zealand, he represents Ireland at international level after qualifying on residency grounds.
• Joseph-Aukuso Sua'ali'i (born 1 August 2003) is an Australian professional dual-code rugby player who plays as a centre for Super Rugby club New South Wales Waratahs and the Australia national team.

Career statistics

I’ve experimented with several different templates for player statistics, but the result has become increasingly messy. Many sports now use a more standardised, universal template for player stats. Establishing a clear format here would help reduce clutter and avoid overly complex tables. Below is a rough draft based on the way most rugby statistics websites present player data. I believe including a dedicated references section is important to ensure the accuracy of the information provided.

Year	Team	Competition	Pld	Try	Con	Pen	Dgl	Pts	Yel	Red	Ref
2022–2023	Australia 7s	Commonwealth Games	6	2	0	0	0	10	0	0
2022–2023	ACT Brumbies	Super Rugby Pacific	14	9	0	0	0	45	0	0
2023–2024	ACT Brumbies	Super Rugby Pacific	13	8	0	0	0	40	0	0
2024–2025	Australia A	Autumn Nations Series	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2024–2025	ACT Brumbies	Super Rugby Pacific	16	11	0	0	0	55	1	0
2025–2026	ACT Brumbies	British & Irish Lions	1	1	0	0	0	5	0	0
2025–2026	Australia	Rugby Championship	1	1	0	0	0	5	0	0

Kidsoljah (talk) Kidsoljah (talk) 08:46, 24 August 2025 (UTC)