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Any reliable sources for Fate/Extra CCC?
editRight now it is a redirect. I don't see anything on MobyGames or Metacritic. Ja wiki has ja:Fate/EXTRA CCC with quite a few refs, but no reception section. If we can find enough sources to estabilish notability, I'll try to write something up. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:15, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- Siliconera has written a couple of (short) articles, which you've probably already seen: (among others).
- Apparently, there's also coverage of CCC in TYPE-MOON Ace vol. 8, including interviews. I don't have a copy of the magazine to verify, though, and it's primary sourcing.
- The closest I've seen to reception is this page. Make of it what you will... Beyond the sources in ja:Fate/EXTRA CCC, I haven't seen much else covering CCC. Kodning 🌸 (talk) 06:15, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- Famitsu's cross-review of it is available on their site: https://www.famitsu.com/game/title/24587/reviews --AlexandraIDV 08:17, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, I remember reading about it back in the day after enjoying the first Fate/Extra, but I only really remember the short Siliconera blurb-type stuff Alexandra already linked above. The PSP was pretty much wrapping up by this point, and particularly in English-language regions.
- The only additional source I found was that Rice Digital review, which is apparently situational as long as they're not reporting on things they have ties to, which I don't think they do to this game. Not a real strong review though either.
- That said, it seems like there's been an increase in interest/article creations with Fate stuff lately, so maybe one of those editors will provide something better Sergecross73 msg me 12:24, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! From what I know, the game was only available in Japanese, so if there are sources, they will be Japanese. Famitsu is a RS, I think. Do we have any Japanese speakers who could do a search for sources in Japanese? (These days I guess I can also ask AI, but they still inferior to people experts, who can find stuff in IA or such...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:35, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, it got an unofficial fan translation, but it happened so far after the fact (2023) that I think this Time Extension article is really the only RS that reported on it. Sergecross73 msg me 18:20, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! From what I know, the game was only available in Japanese, so if there are sources, they will be Japanese. Famitsu is a RS, I think. Do we have any Japanese speakers who could do a search for sources in Japanese? (These days I guess I can also ask AI, but they still inferior to people experts, who can find stuff in IA or such...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:35, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Alexandra IDV @Kodning @Sergecross73 Thank you all for the sources, I was able to write a decent article, I hope (feel free to take a look). Is there anything that suggests notability for Fate/Extella Link? That one doesn't even have a ja wiki stand-alone article, suprisingly enough. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:50, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- Wow, the CCC article came together nicely. A cursory search of Link turned up good results, given it's a more recent game:
- English:
- Japanese:
- Metacritic: Kodning 🌸 (talk) 06:53, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Kodning Thank you, I will work on the article using the sources you found over the coming weeks :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:06, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Kodning@Sergecross73 I will be starting work on Link shortly; in the meantime, can you see if the infobox in CCC I added is correct? I use Infobox animanga/Game but maybe Infobox video game is better? Or should both be used? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:10, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- The infobox looks fine. Which infobox to use seems like a matter of taste: most video game articles seem to use {{Infobox video game}} and only mention other media in the body; articles closer to WikiProject Anime and manga prefer to infobox all related media using {{Infobox animanga}}.I'm partial toward the latter since I like infoboxes, but I can see the argument for the former given the CCC mangas aren't notable by themselves. I don't think it makes sense to use both styles, though, since {{Infobox animanga/Game}} is the intended template to be used with the manga ones. Kodning 🌸 (talk) 05:41, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Kodning Thanks. I used the VG one for Link since as far as I can tell so far there are no related media (manga etc.) although I haven't done a deep dive into this yet. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:07, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- The infobox looks fine. Which infobox to use seems like a matter of taste: most video game articles seem to use {{Infobox video game}} and only mention other media in the body; articles closer to WikiProject Anime and manga prefer to infobox all related media using {{Infobox animanga}}.I'm partial toward the latter since I like infoboxes, but I can see the argument for the former given the CCC mangas aren't notable by themselves. I don't think it makes sense to use both styles, though, since {{Infobox animanga/Game}} is the intended template to be used with the manga ones. Kodning 🌸 (talk) 05:41, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Kodning@Sergecross73 I will be starting work on Link shortly; in the meantime, can you see if the infobox in CCC I added is correct? I use Infobox animanga/Game but maybe Infobox video game is better? Or should both be used? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:10, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Kodning Thank you, I will work on the article using the sources you found over the coming weeks :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:06, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Spoilers in article leads
editIs it appropriate to directly disclose a significant twist in the lead of a narrative game largely about that twist?
I'd like to resolve a difference of opinion with @~2026-16455-78 on the article And Roger in which we've made conflicting edits (see ) on whether to directly identify the game as one about dementia. In the end, the edit conflicts are more focused now on whether to mention this in the lead or not; the IP user has currently concealed it using a wikilink. I have mentioned the reveal of the character having dementia there as I think it's the defining narrative element and theme of the game and WP:SPOILER suggests not trying to conceal a plot element for a prospective player's benefit. The IP user, if I can paraphrase this colourful edit, considers this unnecessary disclosure and a highly compromising thing to reveal for a one-hour mystery game. Appreciate any thoughts on this. VRXCES (talk) 23:06, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- I mean WP:SPOILER seems pretty clear to me. If that's what's notable about the game, that's what's notable about the game. It's our job to document encyclopedic information, not sell video games. I'd say I'd probably try to bury it deep enough into the lead so that it doesn't show up in page previews but that's about it. As a reference, Doki Doki Literature Club has a pretty infamous spoiler that is explicitedly in the lead but tucked at the bottom of the first paragraph. Whipmywillows (talk) 23:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- Seems like a good best practice. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks all that have participated. Sounds like the best way forward is to revert, but also be mindful of framing and maybe add a gameplay sentence to back-load the summary of the narrative, and not start with it. VRXCES (talk) 02:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'd actually be against in the lead only since many might read it before playing it. It should explain a little bit more than promotional material but not explain the ending or plot twist unless it received individual coverage. — Dissident93 (talk) 03:04, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- It did receive individual coverage: every review cited in the article opens by discussing the twist and that it makes spoilers difficult. Kotaku and Aftermath disclose the nature of that twist directly. It is not spoiling for the sake of it; it's the single most identifiable aspect of the game's narrative, themes, and reception. VRXCES (talk) 04:57, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'd actually be against in the lead only since many might read it before playing it. It should explain a little bit more than promotional material but not explain the ending or plot twist unless it received individual coverage. — Dissident93 (talk) 03:04, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks all that have participated. Sounds like the best way forward is to revert, but also be mindful of framing and maybe add a gameplay sentence to back-load the summary of the narrative, and not start with it. VRXCES (talk) 02:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
- Seems like a good best practice. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- I sometimes try to avoid a spoiler in the lead by not addressing it, without clearly stating what it is. instead of saying "Luke finds out Darth Vader is his father" in the Empire Strikes Back article, it says "Set three years after the events of Star Wars, the film recounts the battle between the malevolent Galactic Empire, led by the Emperor, and the Rebel Alliance, led by Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia. As the Empire goes on the offensive, Luke trains to master the Force so he can confront the Emperor's powerful disciple, Darth Vader" this does give the reader an idea of the story without "spoiling it" but also not really hiding what the basic premise of the story is. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:14, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Seeing as the original GAN reviewer of Fae Farm hasn't edited for more than a couple of weeks, and the secondary one is on a wikibreak, and the fact that it is currently the oldest GAN in the video games section (been marked as under review since 18 Feb(, I would like someone new to finish it off. JuniperChill (talk) 20:17, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill I can do it. -- ZooBlazer 17:16, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
- thank you ZooBlaster! JuniperChill (talk) 17:33, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
How to name this category?
editBefore I create it, I wanted to ask for best practices in naming. I am talking about a video game category for the video games listed in Category:Fan translation (there are many more examples in Fan translation of video games, which is not comprehensive anyway). Category:Fan translated video games, with Fan translation of video games being its main article and relevant categories moved to the new category from that article? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:10, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
- I was going to create it now, but I noticed it was deleted in 2007 for being "not defining", see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_December_19#Category:Fan_translated_video_games. Does anyone care to comment on this? I think there are other similar categories - for example, Category:Censored video games. Is censorship more "defining" that fan translation? Or Category:Video games involved in legal disputes. I think other such categories could be found (Category:Video games by programming language, to me, would also be non-defining - I've almost never seen that mentioned in lead or infoobox).
- Additionally, there are notable fan translations (Mother 3 fan translation). The category Fan translation is added to some games, and reasonably so, since if it exist it shoudl be used to organize related entities. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:29, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- It could be "fan translated" is too broad since it doesn't take much for a game to be considered fan translated, especially in the LLM age. Fan translations are not typically
essential, defining characteristics
of their respective games. I'm not a category person though, so this is just a casual observation. Kodning 🌸 (talk) 03:04, 21 June 2026 (UTC)- I'd draw a line on whether a translation has be proven by RS, of course. Generally if something makes sense to be listed (see the small but growing list in the Fan translation of video games article), I think it makes sense to be categorized... but yes, I'd like to hear from more folks. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:55, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- It could be "fan translated" is too broad since it doesn't take much for a game to be considered fan translated, especially in the LLM age. Fan translations are not typically
Are Sports games Fighting games?
editGood evening, all. I'm currently working on a revamp of List of fighting games to convert it to a table structure. Current work is at User:13akoors/List of fighting games, for reference
While working on this page, I noticed that the vast majority of the items in the "Sports (combat) subgenres" section are not listed anywhere else on the page (295 out of the approx 305 games in this section). This led me down a rabbit hole of trying to figure out if these games even qualify as Fighting games.
The Fighting game page seems to indicate they shouldn't be, saying boxing games, mixed martial arts games, and wrestling games are often described as distinct genres, without comparison to fighting games, and belong more in the sports game genre. This is in line with what I've always thought, but the references on this statement say nothing like this, and I couldn't find anything like this online with a cursory search.
Does anyone have any guidance on whether these games should be treated as Fighting games, and how I should proceed with this page cleanup? 13akoors (talk) 00:21, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'm sure we could look up a lineage of it online, but generally games that are boxing or wrestling games are more close to the sports simulation games and less adapt to games that drew from the Street Fighter 2 mold. I'd try a basic google books search to clarify this but genres are often finnicky and some people apply rules that others do not. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:10, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- I agree that boxing and wrestling games tend to be more heavily inspired by their real life sports than Street Fighter II. My concern would be everything that came before SFII, so Karate Champ, Yie Ar Kung Fu, Street Fighter I, etc. My experience tells me these often look superficially similar to modern fighting games but don't play very similarly at all (There's often a heavy focus on single-player, minimal or no versus mode, no character selection, unsophisticated defensive play, etc.) These are often still called fighting games but I find it hard to come up with a reason why Karate Champ for example isn't a sports game, it's quite literally a simulation of competitive karate. I also find it very hard to come up with a reason why Punch Out wouldn't be included in this same category, it essentially shares the same format as Yie Ar Kung Fu but with an over the shoulder perspective.
- My personal feeling is that combat sports games should be on the list but separated out as they currently are. But I would love for these early progenitors to either have their own section, "Proto-fighting games" or something like that or filtered into the combat sports section. I can go hunt to see if someone's published a book on the subject to justify this. Whipmywillows (talk) 18:48, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- That would definitely be helpful. I was struggling to find anything when searching, so even a solid link would help. 13akoors (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- I found some sources and a self-published book . Most of which seem to disagree with me, they say Karate Champ is definitely a fighting game (Sometimes the first fighting game, though I'd question why something like Heavyweight Champ doesn't count). If you're including dates then I don't have that much of a problem with it, either that or split it into "Early" fighting games and "Versus" fighting games.
- That would definitely be helpful. I was struggling to find anything when searching, so even a solid link would help. 13akoors (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Here's a good source: GMR September 2008 on page 52, "Punch Drunk Love". Also disagrees with me. Whipmywillows (talk) 19:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've put together a quick incomplete list of early fighting games that I'll probably keep adding to, User:Whipmywillows/sandbox/Pre-1991 fighting games. I don't think it should be that hard to figure out what is or isn't a fighting game past 1991, and that time period isn't really my area of expertise anyway. I also found this fantastic list from Hardcore Gaming 101, doesn't look much like a reliable source to me but it is on our list. Whipmywillows (talk) 20:29, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Here's a good source: GMR September 2008 on page 52, "Punch Drunk Love". Also disagrees with me. Whipmywillows (talk) 19:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'm always a bit iffy on calling anything "proto-____" it sort of implies that the fighting game genre was inevitable, which isn't the case. (It's hard to imagine a video game world where Street Fighter II never happened though!) I would just try to find sources that go into detail about a game being a fighting game instead of us presuming it has to be one. There's definitely a before and after when Street Fighter II set the mold for these games, so it becomes complicated. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the assist, everyone. I'll look into the sources this week. 13akoors (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Resident Evil game title format in the template
editGiven the attempt to start an edit war while ignoring the discussion, I'll repost the thread link here. I'm not advocating for one option or another, I'm just tired of watching people constantly change the "full game titles" format to "abbreviations only" (for examole, Resident Evil Zero vs Zero) and back again without any discussion. Solaire the knight (talk) 00:34, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
PCGamingWiki template
editHi everyone,
Thoughts on {{PCGamingWiki}}? I xfd'ed it nearly two years ago. For those not familiar, PCGamingWiki is a wiki for PC gaming. Shock, huh? It helps PC players fix issues, that kind of stuff. I feel this was (and still is) an ELNO regardless, so the template is not needed. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 17:24, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Anybody? No? Dust. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 06:41, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- I personally believe most wikis/wikias should not be linked in EL at all, even large established Fandoms. The few times I have personally ended up at PCGamingWiki, I've found it's presentation difficult to navigate and information outdated or jumbled. However, I'm pretty sure another TFD will have the same result because the community at large still accepts the presence of any long running wiki. -- ferret (talk) 12:57, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- I actually am fine with linking to such wikis. Major fansites are valid ELs in my book. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:32, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- I personally believe most wikis/wikias should not be linked in EL at all, even large established Fandoms. The few times I have personally ended up at PCGamingWiki, I've found it's presentation difficult to navigate and information outdated or jumbled. However, I'm pretty sure another TFD will have the same result because the community at large still accepts the presence of any long running wiki. -- ferret (talk) 12:57, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:History of Eastern role-playing video games#Requested move 25 May 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 02:10, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Hasbro Interactive#Requested move 1 June 2026
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hasbro Interactive#Requested move 1 June 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 05:18, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
New Articles (June 1 to June 14)
editA listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.23 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. --PresN 14:58, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- Articles deleted/removed: List of controversies involving Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus, Kamisato (Genshin Impact), Scripted sequence, Granny (video game series), List of media notable for being in development hell, Hyperlinks in virtual worlds
- Drafts deleted/removed: Draft:Dice Gambit, Draft:Children's MMO, Draft:TheoTown, Draft:VexZyn, Draft:Forgotten, Draft:Pokendy Storm, Draft:SpaceCraft, Draft:Wholesome Games, Draft:Half-Life Beyond, Draft:PK XD, Draft:Ehsan Aslani, Draft:Galactic Order GRM Gaming, Draft:Real Cricket, Draft:Soulframe, Draft:2020 (video game), Draft:Bubby Darkstar, Draft:Melon: Sandbox Playground, Draft:Mickey Mouse Clubhouse (video game), Draft:Saiko no Sutoka, Draft:G123, Draft:Sylux, Draft:Disco Tycoon (2010), Draft:Jesse Stirling v1, Draft:Lepton (software), Draft:Church of Kondo, Draft:FEX-Emu, Draft:Frame Cutting Concept, Draft:Installing Mods in Melon Playground and Melon Sandbox with FruitMod, Draft:Chiku(developer indie), Draft:LilKirbs, Draft:Virtual Reality Football Simulator, Draft:Black Hammer Productions, Draft:Super Bear Adventure, Draft:HITMAN: World of Assassination, Draft:KreekCraft (YouTuber), Draft:Stationeers, Draft:Beatstar, Draft:Esquie (Clair Obscur: Expedition 33), Draft:Galacta (character), Draft:IIIVASLAND, Draft:Miquella, Draft:TeleSTOP, Draft:Xianzhou Luofu, Draft:Arknights: Integrated Strategies, Draft:Eyes: The Horror Game, Draft:Galaxy4Games, Draft:Geo AR Games, Draft:Minecraft Command System, Draft:Reid Walter (DDTC)
- Articles redirected: Stunlock Studios, Pac-Man (single), Teemo, Filipe Rodrigues, Fortnite: Chapter 2 Season 2, Time Crisis 5, Vargskelethor Joel, John Seed (character), Nushi Tsuri 64, Nushi Tsuri 64: Shiokaze Ninotte, Overwatch (video game), Ubisoft Bucharest, Broken Picture Telephone, Crate Entertainment, Project Dolphin, Doors (game), Franklin Clinton, War Thunder Mobile, Daggerfall Unity, TheGamer, Vince Desi, Dragon Drive: D-Masters Shot
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— Vrxces
— Piotrus (was previously a redirect)
— HumanxAnthro
— Unnamelessness
— Whipmywillows
Out of town last week, so double-update. --PresN 14:58, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
Homebrew lists
editThe lists I work with frequently often have these long tails of aftermarket and homebrew games, it seems new editors love to add them. Here are some examples for the NES, Atari 2600, and the Atari 7800. Problem is they tend to be very poorly sourced. I'd say the average amount of WP:RS added by any given editor to be about zero. These games also tend to be highly derivative (some might call them unlicensed clones) and I personally would question their notability. I know the benchmark for list additions is not WP:GNG but my experience has been RS coverage for these tends to be pretty slim. I have zero interest in sorting through these to figure out what's notable and what isn't but it seems like no one who edits them wants to either. Shouldn't we be demanding higher standards for these? I'm worried about WP:PROMOTION concerns.
An added wrinkle is that my favorite company in the whole wide world Atari SA recently bought out AtariAge, the fan website that hosts a number of these homebrew games for sale. AtariAge still sells the same games even after the acquisition which leaves these titles in an unclear limbo of officiality. I don't know the full legal story here but it is a headache. You can see the Atari 7800 list for an attempt someone made at detangling this.
Anyway, I would like to come up with some standard for what gets included and what doesn't that can be enforced and isn't too WP:BITEY. Wonder if anyone else has some thoughts. Whipmywillows (talk) 16:06, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- In articles I maintain, I generally remove them for the same reason - they're usually quite difficult to comprehensively source with reliable sources. You can usually find sources for more well-known ones like Somari, but not for the other 99% of the lists... Sergecross73 msg me 16:38, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- anything user created should require a third party source. List of Source mods is kept only to those with their own article or a third party source. Masem (t) 16:50, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'm wondering if we could create a similar sort of list for all of these. List of homebrew games or probably more usefully List of aftermarket home console games. Clearly there's some notable games here, Serge mentioned Somari, my punching bag was gonna be Halo 2600 until I realized it actually had a pretty decent article. My personal feeling is that all of these have more in common with each other than they do with the platforms their attached to. I feel like 90% of these are someone going "what if my favorite video game was on an older console" which is a pretty neat hobby project but should only be on the website if other media thought it was worth talking about. Condensing it down to one list might make it easier to maintain. Whipmywillows (talk) 17:03, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be opposed to the list as long as it had strong inclusion criteria, like requiring a stand alone article, or at least a third party reliable source reporting on it. The latter at least helps keep the junk entries out of the unofficial Sonic media article, though it does require constant monitoring. Sergecross73 msg me 17:36, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- Only problem is I already have too many of my own projects to spend a lot of time on it. Moving what's already sourced and there probably wouldn't take too long but I wouldn't want to go through all the unsourced stuff without help. Whipmywillows (talk) 18:21, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- There's no rush. You can always wait until you have the time. Or start a WP:DRAFT and work on it when you have time, and/or share it here if you'd like others to chip in when they can if they're interested. Sergecross73 msg me 19:16, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- Only problem is I already have too many of my own projects to spend a lot of time on it. Moving what's already sourced and there probably wouldn't take too long but I wouldn't want to go through all the unsourced stuff without help. Whipmywillows (talk) 18:21, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be opposed to the list as long as it had strong inclusion criteria, like requiring a stand alone article, or at least a third party reliable source reporting on it. The latter at least helps keep the junk entries out of the unofficial Sonic media article, though it does require constant monitoring. Sergecross73 msg me 17:36, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- That would be a good idea with consoles like the Vectrex, as there is a TON of homebrew titles for it, compared to the number of official releases the console had during its heyday. Roberth Martinez (talk) 17:10, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'm wondering if we could create a similar sort of list for all of these. List of homebrew games or probably more usefully List of aftermarket home console games. Clearly there's some notable games here, Serge mentioned Somari, my punching bag was gonna be Halo 2600 until I realized it actually had a pretty decent article. My personal feeling is that all of these have more in common with each other than they do with the platforms their attached to. I feel like 90% of these are someone going "what if my favorite video game was on an older console" which is a pretty neat hobby project but should only be on the website if other media thought it was worth talking about. Condensing it down to one list might make it easier to maintain. Whipmywillows (talk) 17:03, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- I would recommend making a separate list for it if there are enough sources out there. That's what i did with the list of homebrew titles for the Atari Jaguar and Net Yaroze. Roberth Martinez (talk) 17:05, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
Time Extension has been getting some crazy interviews
editTime Extension has been getting some super high profile interviews with lots of older designers and localizers in the industry. I've added a few as refideas on various articles in my wheelhouse but I imagine there's at least one of interest to each of you here. Cheers, Axem Titanium (talk) 08:31, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
- Agree and recommend this site. It's come up a few times and glad it's been identified as an RS. The investigative and interview work is fantastic and has strongly supported drafting of articles like Barbie which you'd never think would have enough material to make to a GA standard. VRXCES (talk) 00:51, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed, they've been absolutely great with their coverage of older/retro/cancelled video games. Sergecross73 msg me 14:30, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up! :) Timur9008 (talk) 12:10, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
Goals (again!)
editHey all, with the passing today of the GTs for the Horizon and Tomodachi Life series, we've now reached our goal, set back in November 2020, of 50 Good and Featured Topics! We started with 30 good and 10 featured topics, and ended with 42 and 8. Congrats and thank you to the editors of those two topics as well as for the Metroid Prime: Trilogy, Crash Bandicoot, Pokémon fan games, Crash Bandicoot video games, Trauma Center, Five Nights at Freddy's main series, Pokémon Stadium, Generation II Pokémon, Re-Logic, Generation IX Pokémon, Panzer Dragoon series, The Last of Us season 1, Sacnoth, Characters of Final Fantasy VIII, Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy Type-0, and Paper Mario topics! We lost quite a few topics over the years, so we ended up needed 19 to get us over 50, representing over 100 articles of comprehensive groups of information.
With that goal met, it's time again to pick new goals! And the plural is on purpose, because we're only 23 GAs away from our "2600 GAs for 2026" goal (set in January when we needed 182), and we went up 39 GAs in the last 30 days, so it's very likely that we'll need to replace that goal within the month. So what goals should we pick? In our last couple of discussions we came up with the 2600 GAs and 200 1980s GAs goals, so now the options are wide open. See those discussions for previous ideas, or make up any of your own! Note that the point of goals is to motivate editors to accomplish a task, so it's probably best not to pick ones that will take a decade to complete (which we have done a few times; right now our oldest goal is "All Mid/High/Top-Importance articles C-Class or better", which is 5.5 years old and unlikely to be completed at this pace for another 6+ years so I don't know if its motivating anyone.) --PresN 14:55, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hooray! This is wonderful news.
- My proposal would be a goal aimed at attacking stubs. We have a lot of them, especially for older platforms. But with modern resources like VGHF search, IA scans, and our own reference library, it doesn't need to be this way. Most of these old games are notable and can have full articles, the time and effort just needs to go into making them so. So I'm not sure how to construct that into a goal that's motivating but maybe "less than x number of 1980-1990 stub video game articles" or something like that to keep things contained. I and a handful of other editors have been tackling some of this, but its slow work when there's so few of us.
- A lot of these stubs are really old too. We have a bunch of articles from circa 2007 or so that have essentially been abandoned. Maybe it would be more motivating framed as "let's clean up everything created before this date."Whipmywillows (talk) 16:02, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hmm, our last stub goal was to take them from ~8800 stubs to 7500 stubs, which was April 2024 to November 2025; we're currently at 7400, the lowest since we started classifying articles in 2007. So yeah, maybe a targeted stub goal. --PresN 21:09, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- What about a target of "X number of Start-class or better video game articles created before 2010" (depending on how many there are). That's kind of a random year but that's old enough that I still regularly see GameFAQs stubs and the like. I don't know if it's easy to know how many there are, but the advantage is it's not like that subset can grow. Also another advantage is it somewhat self selects for pre-indie boom, pre-mobile boom, pre-Steam stuff meaning it would be mostly a case of improving articles, not churning through AfDs. Whipmywillows (talk) 06:18, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Whipmywillows, I started working on User:BOZ/vg stubs before I abandoned it... I could always start back up again if you think you could get some use out of it? BOZ (talk) 18:45, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- It could definetly be useful, and I could add a bunch of stuff from my own notes too. I see this is a three step process 1. Find sources 2. Add sources 3. Add content. I think things have really stalled around step 3. Which is fair, it is the part that takes the most effort. I feel like it would be pretty straightforward to get as many articles as possible to step 2. But then the question is, who's taking them all to step 3? Whipmywillows (talk) 21:26, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Whipmywillows, I started working on User:BOZ/vg stubs before I abandoned it... I could always start back up again if you think you could get some use out of it? BOZ (talk) 18:45, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- What about a target of "X number of Start-class or better video game articles created before 2010" (depending on how many there are). That's kind of a random year but that's old enough that I still regularly see GameFAQs stubs and the like. I don't know if it's easy to know how many there are, but the advantage is it's not like that subset can grow. Also another advantage is it somewhat self selects for pre-indie boom, pre-mobile boom, pre-Steam stuff meaning it would be mostly a case of improving articles, not churning through AfDs. Whipmywillows (talk) 06:18, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- A lot of these are probably not stubs anymore anyway (example PBA Tour Bowling 2). BOZ has been a great help in this regard. Timur9008 (talk) 05:45, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hmm, our last stub goal was to take them from ~8800 stubs to 7500 stubs, which was April 2024 to November 2025; we're currently at 7400, the lowest since we started classifying articles in 2007. So yeah, maybe a targeted stub goal. --PresN 21:09, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- Along a similar proposal line to stubs, we have a ton of articles that have little or no sources. I'd love to see something like a citation drive for video game pages.
- I'm not sure if there's anything that lists all the video game project pages with "citations needed" or "unreferenced" templates. But something in that direction would be nice 13akoors (talk) 16:41, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Backlog has the major cleanup categories; has a listing of more; looks like there's a few thousand articles with missing references. --PresN 21:09, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oof. That's more pages than I expected. And I assume that the cleanup list only tracks if a page has the "citations needed" tag, not how many times it's used. I know several of the list articles use that template well over 200 times, so I'd guess that number is way higher than the 12,000 count 13akoors (talk) 03:26, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Backlog has the major cleanup categories; has a listing of more; looks like there's a few thousand articles with missing references. --PresN 21:09, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
Looking for Official UK PlayStation Magazine Issue 71 (or possibly 68)
editSupposedly the February 2001 issue of Official UK PlayStation Magazine (the PS1 version of the magazine) has an interview about Final Fantasy VIII with developers Kitase, Nojima, Naora and Nomura. This was cited in an old ref as issue 71, but apparently the February 2001 issue was actually issue 68? Anyway, the reference linked to a reproduction of the interview on FFShrine.org which has been nuked off the internet and suppressed on Internet Archive. Does anyone have a copy of this issue? Axem Titanium (talk) 12:10, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- Alternatively, if anyone has access to OldGameMags.com, can you confirm which issue this interview is in and if OldGameMags has a scan of it? Axem Titanium (talk) 12:23, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- I have access but neither of these issues have an FF8 interview. I'll keep looking. 2001 is very late to be talking about FF8. TarkusABtalk/contrib 19:09, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah that's what I thought too! But it's been in the article since 2006, and I assume good faith that when User:Kung Fu Man converted it in 2009 to the cite magazine template that he believed that was the correct info as presented by FFShrine. The European release was in October 1999 so presumably around then would be the true source. Thanks for digging through those archives.
- As an aside, this is why accessdates are so important! It would have been way harder to do this digital archaeology without them. Axem Titanium (talk) 23:28, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- VGHF doesnt have it, Retrogames doesnt have it. The IA collection doesn't have that issue either. I very much doubt it's this. Whipmywillows (talk) 21:26, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- That one's Official UK PS2 Magazine, which is a different magazine lol. Thanks for looking! Axem Titanium (talk) 23:28, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- I have access but neither of these issues have an FF8 interview. I'll keep looking. 2001 is very late to be talking about FF8. TarkusABtalk/contrib 19:09, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- I don't have access, but I suspect this actually comes from issue 51 from November 1999. Some (but not all) of the quotes from that website were also published in Official Australian PlayStation Magazine in November 1999, and it looks like the UK editor was present there too (they did a similar roundtable for US press the previous month). – Rhain ☔ he
him 00:30, 22 June 2026 (UTC)- That issue only has a review. I've looked at probably two dozen issues and have found no Squaresoft interviews. TarkusABtalk/contrib 01:25, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- Alright, so digging with the URL, I found it on archive.is still, going to break the URL here so the editor doesn't have a fit: https://archive(dot)is/uNre
- Doing some more digging I found a reddit thread with the magazine's cover, it's the Future publishing PlayStation magazine... and reverse image searching that cover led me to this on archive.org, a Spanish version of the magazine. Translating it through Google Lens shows its the same interview that FF8Shrine transcribed.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:05, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- Wow great work everyone! These are all really useful sources. It appears that PSX (Español) is a licensed version of Official UK PlayStation Magazine. The specific issue that KFM linked is a Spanish version of Final Fantasy VIII The Official Story, which is a special edition that OUKPM put out. Is this issue in the archives somewhere? If you can get the publishing info about this issue and verify that it's the same text as FFShrine, then I'll use it, but barring that, I'm happy to cite the Spanish magazine. Axem Titanium (talk) 02:57, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- Unfortunately that one is not available at OGM! TarkusABtalk/contrib 04:50, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- Bummer! Thanks for checking. Axem Titanium (talk) 01:34, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- Unfortunately that one is not available at OGM! TarkusABtalk/contrib 04:50, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- Wow great work everyone! These are all really useful sources. It appears that PSX (Español) is a licensed version of Official UK PlayStation Magazine. The specific issue that KFM linked is a Spanish version of Final Fantasy VIII The Official Story, which is a special edition that OUKPM put out. Is this issue in the archives somewhere? If you can get the publishing info about this issue and verify that it's the same text as FFShrine, then I'll use it, but barring that, I'm happy to cite the Spanish magazine. Axem Titanium (talk) 02:57, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- That issue only has a review. I've looked at probably two dozen issues and have found no Squaresoft interviews. TarkusABtalk/contrib 01:25, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
Looking for people to review my GA
editIts been 4 days, but can someone review Ever Oasis yet? We are trying to get this to GA so the Video games wikiproject can hit its 2,600 GA-Class articles milestone goal. Monathephantom (talk) 12:41, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- This sort of thing can't be forced. Sometimes it can take weeks or even months before someone decides to pick up a review, and that's fine. All you can really do at this point is have patience. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 04:12, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
Mina the Hollower's secret ending
editGood evening. Yacht Club Games, the creators of Mina the Hollower, just put up a blog post on their official website that tells people the conditions to achieve a secret ending for the game. I am wondering if anyone who has the game can add info about the ending based on either the blog post or a video doing said playthrough. Here is the link for the blog post: https://www.yachtclubgames.com/blog/mina-the-hollower-ending. This is something that was just discovered recently. Thank you. David Matoushek (talk) 02:56, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- Ideally a source would comment on this newly revealed ending, so we can quote them. A single line saying that the ending exists and was revealed today would be fine if this is all the sources we got. I'm not going to look into this any deeper myself, per spoilers. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:19, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- I recall seeing a video that is in the blog showing how the secret ending works. If we adhere to spoiler territory, then that is fine. Either way, I just wanted to know. Thank you for trying though. David Matoushek (talk) 16:05, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
New Articles (June 15 to June 21)
editA listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.23 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. --PresN 13:54, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- Articles deleted/removed: Aerial Knight, Sport Vii, StrategyWiki, MapleStory Universe, Online gaming in India, Avesta of black and white, Forsaken (Roblox Game), Takane Ōkubo, Muck (video game)
- Drafts deleted/removed: Draft:FNAF: The Musical, Draft:Xslayder, Draft:Barbie Fashion Designer, Draft:Indigo Park (2), Draft:Donkey Kong Country Barrel Maze, Draft:Star Road, Draft:Stick War:Legacy, Draft:RougePOV Content, Draft:The Mimic (Roblox), Draft:Tomb Raider ( Life - Action ), Draft:Pelagic Games, Draft:PlaytestCloud, Draft:Reception and criticism of the EA Sports football games, Draft:Rusty Lake: Roots
- Articles redirected: Lord British, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (2026 video game), Mighty Cuphead Adventure, Paquito (Mobile Legends: Bang Bang)
- Categories deleted/removed: Star Wars: Rogue Squadron games, Esports at the 2023 Pan American Games, DreamWorks Pictures video games
- New categories: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic characters — (Oinkers42), Backyard Baseball — (Oinkers42), Wikipedia featured topics Horizon (video game series) — NovemBot, Wikipedia featured topics Horizon (video game series) featured content — NovemBot, Wikipedia featured topics Horizon (video game series) good content — NovemBot, Honkai Impact 3rd character redirects to lists — Gommeh (newly tagged - originally created 3 months ago), Honkai Impact 3rd characters — Gommeh, Planet (franchise) — Unnamelessness, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt — Дмитро Боришполець, Video games based on works by Jin Yong — Uriahheep228, Friendslop video games — Miminity, Fictional gamers — Gommeh, Free-to-play video games that got offline versions — Kulik5120
June 15
— Fats40boy11
— Umais Bin Sajjad (previously a draft: accepted AfC submission)
— Auditxx (previously a draft)
— V. S. Video
— ~2025-31999-56 (previously a draft)
— Gommeh (was previously a redirect)
— TheVoicelessWriter (newly tagged – originally created 4 months ago)
— McLaimhin (previously a draft: accepted AfC submission)
— UltramarineCobalt (previously a userpage: undrafted by original creator)
— Fats40boy11
June 16
— Miminity
— Santhan Akkulu
— Fats40boy11 (was previously a redirect)
— Santhan Akkulu
— PeriodicEditor
— UAmtoj
— Fats40boy11
June 17
— (G)jabz
— Monathephantom (was previously a redirect)
— Piotrus (was previously a redirect)
— Fats40boy11
— ~2026-26691-13 (was previously a redirect)
— ~2026-26691-13 (was previously a redirect)
June 18
— CakeWatyes
— Bladerunner09
— Rohitcontributes
— Gommeh
— Kung Fu Man (was previously a redirect)
— Andrzejbanas
— Fats40boy11
— TheSilksongPikmin (previously a draft: undrafted by original creator)
— Go D. Usopp
June 19
— Andrzejbanas
— Fats40boy11
Wikipedia:Good topics/Horizon (video game series) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) — NovemBot
Wikipedia:Good topics/Tomodachi Life (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) — NovemBot
— Andrzejbanas
— A412 (newly tagged – originally created 1 year ago)
June 20
— Bloxzge 025
— Gommeh (was previously a redirect)
— MoviesandTelevisionFan
— A412
— Unnamelessness
June 21
— AlphaBetaGamma (previously a draft)
— Haleth (was previously a redirect)
— Timur9008
— Canadianerk
— Canadianerk (newly tagged – originally created 18 days ago)
— Andrzejbanas (was previously a redirect)
— Unnamelessness
--PresN 13:54, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- I moved a draft from draftspace to userspace and it has been listed here. I don't know if I did something wrong or it's just a bug, but I had no intention of moving it to mainspace. Oreun 💬Talk 14:25, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- My apologies, it was a bug in the script and I didn't catch it. --PresN 19:39, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
miHoYo task force
editI've had a few thoughts about a miHoYo task force similar to the one on the Chinese Wikipedia, and wanted to gauge how many people would be interested in forming one here. We'll only form it if there are enough interested editors, but I wanted to get a rough number to know for sure if it would be a good idea or not after some off-wiki discussions about the topic. If anyone is interested, please feel free to say so below. Gommeh (talk! sign!) 18:22, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
Request to edit studio page
editHi there! Our indie developer page, PikPok, has quite a few issues and the list of games is outdated. Would anyone please be willing to clean it up? Thank you. ~2026-36598-88 (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Tidus
editThere is an ongoing discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tidus#Category:Fictional_patricides? about the relationship between Tidus and Jecht, two characters from Final Fantasy. It's a FA article so extra voices would be important. Tintor2 (talk) 20:14, 23 June 2026 (UTC)