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Template:SD abuse

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary and inappropriately WP:BITE-y template. Only used once by the creator on an established editor's talk page. Creator is indefinitely blocked and globally locked. We have a more established warning template for incorrect speedy deletion nominations at {{Uw-badcsd}}. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:5AF:9096:9EC1:275E (talk) 17:06, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The template is quite unnecessary; see also Template talk:SD abuse § Overlap, where the template was questioned nearly a year ago. The user who left the message, @Nikkimaria, suggested making a set of multi-level templates, which doesn't sound like a bad idea. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 02:22, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Dontsign

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 June 28. ✗plicit 14:22, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:BlockUsername

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:23, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only 1 transclusion. Redundant to {{uw-username}} and other more commonly used username warning templates. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:5AF:9096:9EC1:275E (talk) 16:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:28, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Vidbir

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While there are many cases where an infobox for a specific song contest format are warranted, I do not believe this is the case here. The main reason being that there are no instances of articles covering each yearly edition of Vidbir (e.g. Vidbir 2025), and therefore this section duplicates the listings at {{Ukraine in the Eurovision Song Contest}} from 2016 onwards. This is in contrast to other similar navboxes, e.g. {{Melodifestivalen}}, {{Melodi Grand Prix}}, and {{Pesma za Evroviziju}}, where yearly articles distinct from that country's participation in Eurovision exist. Without these yearly articles I do not believe a navbox is warranted per the guidelines listed at WP:NAVBOX, as the other articles listed for judges, artists and songs do not form a single, coherent subject in my opinion, nor do they refer to each other to a reasonable extent. The judges are already listed on the main Vidbir articles, and the artists and songs should instead be grouped via categories. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:46, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Michael Jackson series

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Michael Jackson. Izno (talk) 23:47, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Michael Jackson series with Template:Michael Jackson.
Redundant. (CC) Tbhotch™ 04:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose I'm not sure if I'm replying in the right spot (hopefully so) but there are some people who have both the side template and template at the bottom of the page (e.g. see Hillary Clinton). I personally like the sidebars better and think they make the breadth of someone's articles more evident and even easier to navigate through. But my understanding is they don't work on mobile(?) or something like that. So, the bottom ones are maybe better for people on the phone. I think a lot of casual wikipedia readers don't even know to scroll all the way to the bottom to see those templates, and I think the side templates get people more interested in more wikipedia pages/more knowledge quicker. While there may be some redundancies, I think they're basically for two different audiences, won't be seen by all the same people, and are out of the way enough to not be redundant to the point of annoyance or negative issues with the pages. There are various redundancies throughout wikipedia (e.g. info in lead repeated/re-expanded upon later or leads on related pages with info from the main article to help people get their bearings). So, wikipedia seems to accept some redundancy for clarity/ease-of-navigation sake, which is what I would personally file this under. But that's just my two cents!
HangingOutHereSeeingWhatsUp (talk) 04:34, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sidebars are for politicians like Hillary Clinton, not for musicians like Michael Jackson; "There are various redundancies throughout wikipedia [like] info in lead repeated/re-expanded upon later". Yes, that is the point of the WP:Lead section, to be repetitive of what the article will be about. (CC) Tbhotch™ 04:59, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Genuine question: Are sidebars only meant for politicians? I've read a lot of Wikipedia policy trying to get up to speed on everything. But I don't think I've found any guidelines saying that (though I'm sure there might be!). Also, Elon Musk has a sidebar and I guess he is a "politician" in some sense of the word, but not in a traditional sense, I don't think.
Re: the lead section, you and I are saying the same thing - that there are spots in Wikipedia where redundancies are expected or even encouraged for various reasons. Therefore, not all redundancies on Wikipedia need to be removed. And personally, I would think this is one where different templates on different parts of the page help different audiences, meaning I still think they should both exist. But I look forward to hearing other opinions on this as well. HangingOutHereSeeingWhatsUp (talk) 08:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Tbhotch ps sorry, I forgot to tag you in my response and I couldn't figure out how to do it after the fact, so just doing it now HangingOutHereSeeingWhatsUp (talk) 08:16, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is not limited to politicians, as seen at Category:People and person sidebar templates. However, no musicians have one as it is reduntant to the navbox, it conflicts with the musician's infobox and the infoboxes of the musician's work, and the sidebar can be used as seen here Make America Great Again#Use by Donald Trump, an use not required for the musicians. (CC) Tbhotch™ 17:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Tbhotch. It is absolutely unnecessary to have a sidebar since we already have templates at the bottom of the page, and the sidebar is for politicians, which the artist Michael Jackson is not. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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