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Geographical indications in Ukraine

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Nominator(s): Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 15:40, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unlike my previous nominations, I made this list entirely from scratch, but it turned out quite well (much shorter than List of Ukrainian placenames affected by derussification or List of Intangible Cultural Heritage elements in Ukraine, so don't hesitate to review). Also, to my knowlege, this is the first list of geographical indications / protected products to be nominated. I believe it is well-structured and properly formatted, and thus ready to be nominated. As always, improvements are welcome. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 15:40, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MPGuy2824

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  • Using the word "dupes" feels a bit weird to me. See if imitation or replica conveys enough of the same meaning. Keep the wikilink though.
  • Changed to "imitation goods", tell me if that works.
  • protection of geographical indications is was established
  • Done
  • "other products, including handicrafts, may receive the status as well" to "other products, including handicrafts, have received the status as well"
  • Done
  • Can "Frumushika" be wikilinked somewhere?
  • I have interlanguage links to Frumushika River in two descriptions in the table. Do you also want me to link it in the lead?
    Yes, please. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
    Done
  • "Area of origin is located within"
  • Done
  • wikilink "rosé"
  • Done
  • " with no more than 20% mountain cow's or goat's milk added.": a bit of repetition. Maybe change it to something like "with the rest being cow or goat milk." Similar issue for "Hutsul cow bryndza"
  • Done
  • Consider having a separate symbol and color for elements that are also on the "Intangible Cultural Heritage of Ukraine" list
  • I've considered that before but ultimately decided not to do it. If I remember correctly, my reasoning was that this wouldn't cover many items (only three), and if I also have a separate color for the UNESCO list specifically, that would further divide that into two and one. The National Register of Intangible Cultural Heritage doesn't get updated very often (usually once in a few months), and of 117 items currently inscribed, only 3 are also registered as GIs, so I wouldn't expect the overlap to widen significantly as both registers expand. I mentioned this information in the descriptions to show that these items are protected not only as products on the market, but also as traditions. While I believe that this information is worth mentioning, I don't think it's important enough to highlight it with a separate symbol and color. If the overlap was bigger, though, I would consider this important enough. I'm not strongly committed to keeping it as is though, so if you think it still makes sense to mark the ICH elements, I can do that.
  • since the table is sortable, you'll have to wikilink things multiple times if they appear for different elements, since you aren't sure which of the row will appear on top.
  • Added links. Tell me if more are needed.
  • Done
  • I think "titrated acidity" can be shortened to just acidity
  • The ref pdfs are images, which means that I cannot copy the text to google translate and check, but there are quite a few uses of "unique" and "distinctive" used throughout the table that would be considered PUFFERY IMO. If the refs do use similar words, then they might be ok.
  • Yes, the sources often use words "характерний" and "особливий" (unique/distinctive), "неповторність" (uniqueness), etc. I think this is justified in this case because the entire point of GI labels is to protect products that have special characteristics.
    Makes sense. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:41, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wikilink Bessarabia.
  • Done
  • "it disappeared in most of the region" to "it disappeared from most of the region"
  • Done
  • I'm not sure what "sunlight more scattered and intense" means in this context, but to me those two adjectives are near-antonyms.
  • That's what the sources say... I understand the scattering part, as the light scatters once it is reflected by the water. I'm not so sure about the intensity, but, as I understand, the light can be spread out (scattered) but still bright (intense). I can't comment on the physics behind this, especially considering the different definitions of light intensity.

Drive-by comment

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  • I think the list would benefit by having images illustrate each example where possible.
  • I've tried that in the old versions of the draft but unfortunately there were no images for the majority of the products, so I opted to use Template:Multiple image instead. Also, there were some images of dubious copyright (like the only image of Tavria brandy), as well as some that are hard to categorize (this is obviously a wine from Shabo, but unclear whether it falls under AO Chabag or GI Acha-Abag).
  • For example, this image is of melitopol cherries on uk.wp, this cheese, etc.
  • Bryndza can refer to a number of cheeses, and what is shown on the second image is indeed some sort of bryndza, but I can't confirm that that is Hutsul bryndza (and even if it were, it's still unclear whether that's the sheep's milk or cow's milk kind). However, I'm leaning towards it not being Hutsul bryndza because, as far as I can tell, the protected kind is crumbled and sold in jars.
  • is there relevant information about GIs in the russian occupied territories? you kind of touch on this in footnote d, but I would like some information to be integrated into the body of the article
  • The most important information regarding GIs in Russian-occupied territories is that many of them (at least Crimean wines and Melitopol cherries, according to the sources) have been appropriated and are sold by Russia despite their Ukrainian GI labels. At the moment, I think the footnote explains everything well, but if you think I can condense the info and add a brief mention in the main text, where would it fit best? Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:43, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the late reply, I forgot about this. I think a mention at the end of the last paragraph of the lead would be good. The last two sentences would be good, though some context should be added.
Also, some comments about WP:SYNTH in the footnote: ref 25, 26, 27, 28, and 29 don't mention geographical indications, (i used ctrl f). Thus, I would recommend that you remove the footnote (since you would have to remove these refs and integrate the relevant info into the lead). Obviously, this is still very important so I would recommend linking Ukrainian culture during the Russian invasion of Ukraine in the see also. Also per WP:RFE/RL, radio free europe is "additional considerations apply", so I would add attribution to it or replace it with something else.
I also understand that there aren't many images on this, so that issue is resolved. User:Easternsahara 18:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how refs 25–29 are WP:SYNTH. They are only there to confirm the occupation and annexation of these regions by Russia, as well as the global (non-)recognition of it, serving as the background to the next statement about what is happening to the GIs in these areas. This is not an instance of "A[1] and B,[2] therefore, C" but rather "A[1] and B[2]". I have seen (and made) similar footnotes in other lists and articles without issue. As I don't see the reason to remove the background information given by these sources, I think it shouldn't be a problem to leave the footnote in either. However, I've added a shortened version of this to the lead as you proposed, though omitting info about the EU ban as it seems like extra information that doesn't quite fit into the lead; tell me if that works.
As I understand, the problem with RFE/RL is potential bias. While I agree that the source in this case provides biased reactions to the fact, I think it should not be a problem to use it only to confirm the statement (appropriation of GI Melitopol cherries by Russia), though to be safe I replaced it with a more neutral source – WP:YAHOONEWS (citing both Ukrainska Pravda and TASS).
I've added Ukrainian culture during the Russian invasion of Ukraine to the See also section as you suggested as well. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 20:04, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that addresses most of my concerns. I think the russian invasion part can stay in the footnote, it explains why something is included even though it is not de facto under the control of the Ukranian government.
But could you add the bit about the EU ban to the lead? It is one sentence and is WP:DUE because there are 2 references for 1 sentence. Then, could you remove the last and second-last sentences of the footnote? It is content duplication. Right now, there is content duplication in the article because the part in the lead is repeated in the footnote. To combat this, you could remove it from the lead, but this takes important information about geographical indications in Ukraine away from the lead and puts it into an optional footnote. However, if you remove it from the footnote, then it is a formal fallacy that the EU banned the import: it doesn't have context necessary for logical (and textual) flow. So you must include all the information in the lead and remove it from the footnote to prevent content duplication and ensure context is present for the claims.
I'll support if you do that, or explain why you don't want to. Thanks for your work on this list. User:Easternsahara 17:21, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine by me. Moved the last two sentences (with minor adjustments) to lead, and also moved the efn as Russian-occupied territories are now mentioned there first. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 21:55, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support looked over the rest of the text and its good. I just noticed one thing with the link: Cabernet links to a disambiguation page. Although this is probably intentional (you specify disambiguation), I was wondering if you could point it to a more specific location? User:Easternsahara 23:43, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As written in the invisible comment, the source doesn't specify the type(s) of Cabernet used. I also tried to figure this out in other sources but unfortunately couldn't find anything. Thanks for the support. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:11, 19 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mmberney

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An interesting list; here are a few things for consideration:

  • The phrase "or 3,134 in total including foreign entries" isn't clear to me — brief explanation as to why foreign entries have been added? Seen that Note 'g' mentions Russia, Georgia, the EU, and Italy
  • The previous paragraph mentions that "Ukraine's legislation also protects numerous foreign geographical indications and appellations of origin". The register covers both national and foreign entries as they are under equal protection. The third paragraph mainly includes statistics and miscellaneous facts, so I thought the total number of entries is worth mentioning there even though the foreign GIs are not listed below.
  • Add the convert template to the table where metres are mentioned so that feet are included
  • Done
  • A simple locator map showing where each GI originates would add a lot of value; it would also highlight any regional clustering (I appreciate this isn't a feature of other GI articles, and it may be labour‑intensive in practice)
  • I've considered it before but soon realized that this is not so simple. This would be easy for GIs like Myrhorodska water (as it originates from the city of Myrhorod and nowhere else), but many entries cover large areas (e.g., the entirety of Zakarpattia for Zakarpattia wine), which is difficult to show with dots. Not to mention, there would be a large overlap between some items, like the three Frumushika products which originate from similar (but not exactly the same) overlapping areas. Another example is Yalpuh wine covering a portion of Prydunaiska Bessarabia wine's area. An alternative I've considered is a small table below showing the number of GIs per region (similar to the buildings by borough table at the end of Grade II* listed buildings in Greater Manchester), which may become especially helpful when the register grows in the future to cover more regions.
  • Ensure consistency with blue links in the Description column — some terms are always linked (such as rennet), while others are linked only once or twice (such as pH and rosé).
  • I'm linking only the first instances of each term, but have to do this for multiple entries since the table is sortable (as recommended by MPGuy2824 above). At the same time, I want to avoid unnecessary overlinking, which is why I haven't linked every single instance of these words. However, I've looked into this again and it does seem like I've missed a few such cases, so thanks for bringing this up. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 12:36, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support; thanks for clarifying and I do understand the complexities of creating bespoke maps - doesn't sound practicable in this instance

Source review passed (to the extent that I can review it), promoting. --PresN 23:13, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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