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The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 7:46, 3 May 2025 (UTC) .

Surrender of Japan

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Review section

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As noted in June 2023 by Wretchskull, this 2009 FA has significant problems relating to the FA criteria. These include:

  • Unreferenced statements and paragraphs
  • Excessively numerous lengthy quotations
  • Use of webpages for citations instead of high-quality reliable sources
  • Over-reliance on two academic sources (Frank 1999 and Hasegawa 2005) when there is a huge amount of scholarly literature available
  • Undue weighting of certain topics: for example, 2.6% of the article's prose is dedicated to summarising this airspacemag.com article.

I hope this level-5 vital article can be brought to current FA standards. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:08, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29, I will try to work ont this one. I hope to get a full rewrite done within 1 to 1.5 months. Matarisvan (talk) 14:05, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good to hear. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:22, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to offer the following comments:

  • The first para of the lead is heavy going, and should be considerably simplified
  • The lead is overly focused on the atomic bombing and doesn't really reflect the modern literature on the debate over the reasons Japan surrendered when it did
  • The para starting with "As a final attempt to stop the Allied advances" is simply wrong and is cited to an unsuitable and dated source. The modern literature on this topic notes that Japan was planning a defence in depth in Kyushu and was preparing to defend other areas
  • Iris Chang's book on the Rape of Nanking is a controversial work to cite, and it's not clear why it was used here.
  • The statement that " For the Japanese, surrender was unthinkable—Japan had never been successfully invaded or lost a war in its history" seems highly unlikely (it lumps the entire population togther) and ignores Japanese defeats in Korea and at the hands of the European powers in small conflicts in the 19th century
  • On that topic, the article doesn't really address the war weariness of the Japanese people and military. While this had very little bearing on the government's decision to surrender, it meant that the great majority of Japanese immediately accepted the end of the war.
  • The article largely ignores the impact of the firebombing campaign that destroyed most of Japan's main cities before the atomic bombings.
  • The "Proposed invasion" section is much too simple and is misstitled given that the Allies were very serious about invading had the war continued. This needs to cover the high casualties which were expected, as this influenced the Allied governments' decision making
  • The article has too many block quotes and some are too long
  • The article ends rather abruptly and doesn't attempt to discuss the debates over this issue and how they've evolved.

In summary, I think that the article's content is a long way from modern FA standards. Nick-D (talk) 04:33, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FARC section

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Issues raised in the review section include sourcing, weighting, and prose. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:43, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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