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The Signpost: 29 November 2019
- From the editor: Put on your birthday best
"We get by with a little help from our friends"
- News and notes: How soon for the next million articles?
And when will we get the second extraterrestrial edit?
- In the media: You say you want a revolution
Everybody wants to change Wikipedia.
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
A selection of good news and encouraging stories from the Wikiverse.
- Arbitration report: Two requests for arbitration cases
Important or imprudent? Pondering portals. And an editor gets transported off-wiki for good.
- Traffic report: The queen and the princess meet the king and the joker
Could this be the end of the Terminator?
- Technology report: Reference things, sister things, stranger things
The latest tech news and updates.
- Gallery: Winter and holidays
Some interesting and unusual winter and holiday images.
- Recent research: Bot census; discussions differ on Spanish and English Wikipedia; how nature's seasons affect pageviews
And other new research publications.
- Essay: Adminitis
Some humor about the otherwise serious subject of burnout.
- From the archives: WikiProject Spam, revisited
Veteran editor: Wikipedia is losing existential battle against spam.
- In focus: An update on the Wikimedia Movement 2030 Strategy
Coming to the end of a long road formulating the strategy.
- Special report: How many people edit in your favorite language? Where are they from?
Only now can we say!
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The Signpost: 27 December 2019
- From the editors: Caught with their hands in the cookie jar, again
You can buy "cleaners" but you might not come away clean.
- News and notes: What's up (and down) with administrators, articles and languages
Active administrators and articles achieved are marking milestone metrics, but in diverging directions. Plus, the first time any court has found there exists a constitutional right to read Wikipedia.
- Special report: Are reputation management operatives scrubbing Wikipedia articles?
Son of Wiki-PR.
- In the media: "The fulfillment of the dream of humanity" or a nightmare of PR whitewashing on behalf of one-percenters?
Praise for possibly pansophic Wikipedia from a Nobel laureate collides head-on with real-world events in December.
- Discussion report: December discussions around the wiki
Regarding integrity of information presented by Wikipedia, as well as the processes and people who ensure it remains trustworthy.
- Arbitration report: Announcement of 2020 Arbitration Committee
ArbCom election results and status of open and requested cases.
- Traffic report: Queens and aliens, exactly alike, once upon a December
We may have scrambled the headlines a bit.
- Technology report: User scripts and more
Customise your Wikipedia experience
- Gallery: Holiday wishes
Messages of holiday cheer from us to you.
- Recent research: Acoustics and Wikipedia; Wiki Workshop 2019 summary
16 recent papers, and other research news
- From the archives: The 2002 Spanish fork and ads revisited (re-revisited?)
A look at different approaches taken by Wikipedia's founders in 2002, as seen from the perspective of nine years when it was written; nearly twenty years ago now.
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
A selection of good news and encouraging stories from the Wikiverse.
- Op-Ed: Why we need to keep talking about Wikipedia's gender gap
There's still a long way to go.
- WikiProject report: Wikiproject Tree of Life: A Wikiproject report
Eight years after our last interview, WikiProject Tree of Life continues to thrive.
The Signpost: 27 January 2020
- From the editor: Reaching six million articles is great, but we need a moratorium
How long can we ignore Wiki-PR?
- News and notes: Six million articles on the English language Wikipedia
You ain't seen nothing yet.
- Special report: The limits of volunteerism and the gatekeepers of Team Encarta
How to survive the asshole consensus.
- In the media: Turkey's back up, but what's happening with Dot-org and a new visual identity?
Plus politics and other oddities.
- Arbitration report: Three cases at ArbCom
The new arbs have a big load.
- Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2019
As only The Signpost can describe them.
- Gallery: Wiki Loves Monuments 2019, we're all winners
The top 15 international photos.
- News from the WMF: Capacity Building: Top 5 Themes from Community Conversations
Growing our community and our abilities.
- Community view: Our most important new article since November 1, 2015
Well, it's a bit subjective.
- In focus: Cryptos and bitcoins and blockchains, oh no!
Everybody needs to make a buck somehow — just not here, thanks.
- Recent research: How useful is Wikipedia for novice programmers trying to learn computing concepts?
And other new research publications.
- From the archives: A decade of The Signpost, 2005-2015
The first 10 years are the hardest.
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
A selection of good news and encouraging stories from the Wikiverse.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Japan: a wikiProject Report
An interview with four members of the WikiProject Japan.
- Humour: Predicting the 6,000,000th article
I may fall in love all over again!
- Obituary: Remembering Wikipedia contributor Brian Boulton
A mentor to us all
Zephyr Teachout
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The Signpost: 1 March 2020
- From the editor: The ball is in your court
How to stop abusive commercial editing.
- News and notes: Alexa ranking down to 13th worldwide
Falling behind Chinese websites.
- Special report: More participation, more conversation, more pageviews
A statistical insight into the English Wikipedia's very own online community newsletter.
- In the media: Mapping IP editors, Smithsonian open-access, and coronavirus disinformation
We're all over the map this month.
- Discussion report: Do you prefer M or P?
Wikimedia or Wikipedia?
- Arbitration report: Two prominent administrators removed
Arbitration Committee and the "blue wall of silence".
- By the numbers: How many actions by administrators does it take to clean up spam?
Numbers for vandalism and sockpuppeting included at no additional charge!
- Community view: The Incredible Invisible Woman
No more "Hidden Figures", let's work to make women visible on Wikipedia!
- In focus: History of The Signpost, 2015–2019
Covering Wikipedia for another five years!
- Recent research: Wikipedia generates $50 billion/year consumer surplus in the US alone
And other new research results
- From the archives: Is Wikipedia for sale?
How long has Wikipedia been for sale? When will it stop?
- Traffic report: February articles, floating in the dark
Kobe sets another record.
- Gallery: Feel the love
Renewing our vows.
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
A selection of good news and encouraging stories from the Wikiverse.
- Op-Ed: What I learned as Wikimedia UK Communications Coordinator
Getting across the Wikipedia experience to the press.
- Opinion: Wikipedia is another country
Or: how to best bite a newbie.
- Humour: The Wilhelm scream
WikiWorld is back.
The Signpost: 29 March 2020
- From the editors: The bad and the good
Getting ready for anything.
- News and notes: 2018 Wikipedian of the year blocked
Wheel war on Tatar Wikipedia.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject COVID-19: A WikiProject Report
An interview with members of the COVID Project.
- Special report: Wikipedia on COVID-19: what we publish and why it matters
Wikipedia presents solid widely-consulted information on COVID-19 and related topics.
- In the media: Blocked in Iran but still covering the big story
COVID-19, Zika, edit-a-thons, and macrons.
- Discussion report: Rethinking draft space
Plus: geonotices, reliable sources, and job titles.
- Arbitration report: Unfinished business
A new case, a case returns from limbo, and an RfC being prepared.
- In focus: "I have been asked by Jeffrey Epstein …"
The twists and turns of Epstein’s portrayal on Wikipedia.
- Community view: Wikimedia community responds to COVID-19
Individually and in organized groups, Wikimedians stand up and make a difference.
- Recent research: Disease outbreak uncertainties, AfD forecasting, auto-updating Wikipedia
New research publications on "the fear of being erased" and other topics.
- From the archives: Text from Wikipedia good enough for Oxford University Press to claim as own
Five years ago with a different crisis.
- Traffic report: The only thing that matters in the world
Going to movies and sport stadiums is history, and readers turn to Wikipedia for crucial medical information and updates.
- Gallery: Visible Women on Wikipedia
Images from the Whose Knowlege? campaign.
- News from the WMF: Amid COVID-19, Wikimedia Foundation offers full pay for reduced hours, mobilizes all staff to work remote, and waives sick time
The WMF responds.
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
A selection of good news and encouraging stories from the Wikiverse.
The Signpost: 26 April 2020
- News and notes: Unbiased information from Ukraine's government?
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs pitches in.
- In the media: Coronavirus, again and again
Plus the importance of language.
- Discussion report: Redesigning Wikipedia, bit by bit
The Wikimedia community discusses modifying or hiding the sidebar on the left of every page.
- Featured content: Featured content returns
Movies, roads, awards and more.
- Arbitration report: Two difficult cases
Even our best editors sometimes disagree.
- Traffic report: Disease the Rhythm of the Night
Coronavirus, coronavirus, and Joe Exotic.
- Gallery: Roy is doing fine and sending more photos
A coronavirus cruise can't stop Roy!
- Recent research: Trending topics across languages; auto-detecting bias
And other new research results.
- Essay: Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing
And it could get worse!
- By the numbers: Open data and COVID-19: Wikipedia as an informational resource during the pandemic
What COVID-19 data are available from the WMF?
- Opinion: Trusting Everybody to Work Together
In an increasingly factious world, Wikipedia's approach to collaboration and trust-building point to a brighter future.
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
A selection of good news and encouraging stories from the Wikiverse.
- Interview: Health and RfA's: An interview with Guy Macon
A Wikipedia editor reflects on his recent RfA and the health issues that became part of it.
- In focus: Multilingual Wikipedia
How to better integrate articles across language editions.
- WikiProject report: The Guild of Copy Editors
An interview with members of the WP:GOCE
The Signpost: 31 May 2020
- From the editor: Meltdown May?
Or will it be meltdown June?
- News and notes: 2019 Picture of the Year, 200 French paid editing accounts blocked, 10 years of Guild Copyediting
Many of these accounts now blocked on the English-language Wikipedia.
- In the media: CBS on COVID-19, Sanger on bias, false noses, and five prolific editors
Worth Every Goddamn Second!
- Discussion report: WMF's Universal Code of Conduct
It's no April Fool's joke, but we discuss those, too.
- Special report: The sum of human knowledge? Not in one Wikipedia language edition
Cultural context, diversity, and the future of languages.
- Featured content: Weathering the storm
Battles, bombs, wars, and more storms.
- Arbitration report: Board member likely to receive editing restriction
Sanctions of multiple flavors, and a non-decision on the breadth of discretionary sanctions.
- Traffic report: Come on and slam, and welcome to the jam
Time to bring on the Bulls.
- Op-Ed: Where Is Political Bias Taking Us?
Straight down the tubes.
- Gallery: Wildlife photos by the book
Birds, insects, elephants, a macaque and more.
- News from the WMF: WMF Board announces Community Culture Statement
Enacting new standards to address harassment and promote inclusivity across projects.
- Recent research: Automatic detection of covert paid editing; Wiki Workshop 2020
New results from academic research
- Community view: Transit routes and mapping during stay-at-home order downtime
Hello Columbus.
- On video: COVID-19 spurs innovations in Wikimedia video and virtual programming
Community harnesses new technologies for remote participation in events and gatherings
- WikiProject report: Revitalizing good articles
Can our energy be turned into long-term change?
- On the bright side: 500,000 articles in the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia
A selection of good news and encouraging stories from the Wikiverse.
- Obituaries: Dmitrismirnov, Kattenkruid, Muidlatif, Ronhjones, Tsirel
Rest in peace.
The Signpost: 28 June 2020
- News and notes: Progress at Wikipedia Library and Wikijournal of Medicine
Plus Swedish biographies and the big oops!
- Community view: Community open letter on renaming
Reacting to the WMF's rebranding proposal.
- Gallery: After the killing of George Floyd
Protests and photos from around the world...
- In the media: Part collaboration and part combat
Racial justice, Facebook, LGBTQ+, Ryan Merkley, and a woman.
- Discussion report: Community reacts to WMF rebranding proposals
Many Wikimedia community members are upset about the WMF's plan to rebrand. Plus, a discussion of Fox News's reliability.
- Featured content: Sports are returning, with a rainbow
Battles, music, and animals feature prominently in this month's best content.
- Arbitration report: Anti-harassment RfC and a checkuser revocation
The RfC should keep everybody busy.
- Traffic report: The pandemic, alleged murder, a massacre, and other deaths
Plus Rajput, Musk, Epstein, Maxwell, Owens and Anonymous
- News from the WMF: We stand for racial justice
On these issues, there is no neutral stance.
- Recent research: Wikipedia and COVID-19; automated Wikipedia-based fact-checking
And other new research publications
- Interview: What is wrong with rebranding to "Wikipedia Foundation"?
Four signers of the open letter explain.
- Humour: Cherchez une femme
It's amazing what one can do.
- Opinion: Trying to find COI or paid editors? Just read the news
A scientific scandal and the Ronaldo of investment banking.
- On the bright side: For what are you grateful this month?
A selection of good news and encouraging stories from the Wikiverse.
- In focus: Edit Loud, Edit Proud: LGBTIQ+ Wikimedians and Global Information Activism
The history and impact of LGBTIQ+ contributions to Wikimedia projects.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Black Lives Matter
How Wikipedia is covering racial injustice, both in the outer world and on-site
The Signpost: 2 August 2020
- Special report: Wikipedia and the End of Open Collaboration?
Comparing Wikipedia to similar projects.
- COI and paid editing: Some strange people edit Wikipedia for money
And thanks for the photo, Ghislaine!
- News and notes: Abstract Wikipedia, a hoax, sex symbols, and a new admin
Plus lots of affiliations!
- In the media: Dog days gone bad
Pandemic, politics, and possibly paid editing.
- Discussion report: Fox News, a flight of RfAs, and banning policy
Plus a proposed massive invasion of privacy!
- Featured content: Remembering Art, Valor, and Freedom
soldiers, sports, and actors feature heavily this month.
- Traffic report: Now for something completely different
Death and Alexander Hamilton.
- Gallery: Photos of threatened species from iNaturalist
Sometimes you just have to ask.
- News from the WMF: New Chinese national security law in Hong Kong could limit the privacy of Wikipedia users
Privacy is critical to sustaining freedom of expression and association, enabling knowledge and ideas to thrive.
- Recent research: Receiving thanks increases retention, but not the time contributed to Wikipedia
And other new research publications
- Essay: Not compatible with a collaborative project
Some editors aren't.
- Obituaries: Hasteur and Brian McNeil
Rest in peace.
- In focus: WikiLoop DoubleCheck, reviewing edits made easy
Making Wikipedia the encyclopedia that anyone can review.
The Signpost: 30 August 2020
- News and notes: The high road and the low road
Will the Scots language Wikipedia survive?
- In the media: Storytelling large and small
COVID, Fox, Kamala, Scots, cryptocurrency, and more.
- Featured content: Going for the goal
Sports, music, military and more
- Special report: Wikipedia's not so little sister is finding its own way
Wikidata's profound impact on Wikipedia
- Op-Ed: The longest-running hoax
Watch out for those Mustelodons!
- Traffic report: Heart, soul, umbrellas, and politics
More politics than usual.
- News from the WMF: Fourteen things we’ve learned by moving Polish Wikimedia conference online
Celebrating of our community in a different format.
- Recent research: Detecting spam, and pages to protect; non-anonymous editors signal their intelligence with high-quality articles
And other new research results
- Arbitration report: A slow couple of months
Everybody deserves a vacation!
- From the archives: Wikipedia for promotional purposes?
A question from 2005 that we still haven't answered.
- Obituaries: Marcus Sherman, Jerome West, and Pauline van Till
Rest in Peace.
The Signpost: 27 September 2020
- Special report: Paid editing with political connections
WE charity and Justin Trudeau, Bell Pottinger, Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs.
- News and notes: More large-scale errors at a "small" wiki
With inline parenthetical citations!
- In the media: WIPO, Seigenthaler incident 15 years later
A celebrity quiz, Scots, and a Crypto-hating Wikipedia editor
- Featured content: Life finds a Way
Animals, sports, military, and science feature heavily in this month's best content.
- Arbitration report: Clarifications and requests
Who is that guy JzG?
- Traffic report: Is there no justice?
Perhaps on the tennis court.
- Recent research: Wikipedia's flood biases
And other new research publications.
The Signpost: 27 September 2020
- Special report: Paid editing with political connections
WE charity and Justin Trudeau, Bell Pottinger, Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs.
- News and notes: More large-scale errors at a "small" wiki
With inline parenthetical citations!
- In the media: WIPO, Seigenthaler incident 15 years later
A celebrity quiz, Scots, and a Crypto-hating Wikipedia editor
- Featured content: Life finds a Way
Animals, sports, military, and science feature heavily in this month's best content.
- Arbitration report: Clarifications and requests
Who is that guy JzG?
- Traffic report: Is there no justice?
Perhaps on the tennis court.
- Recent research: Wikipedia's flood biases
And other new research publications.
The Signpost: 1 November 2020
- News and notes: Ban on IPs on ptwiki, paid editing for Tatarstan, IP masking
Branding pause, birthday.
- In the media: Murder, politics, religion, health and books
A possible conspiracy and 2 infodemics!
- Book review: Review of Wikipedia @ 20
We made it this far, but where do we go from here?
- Op-Ed: Anti-vandalism with masked IPs: the steps forward
Getting input from editors.
- Discussion report: Proposal to change board composition, In The News dumps Trump story
Will editors be affected?
- Featured content: The "Green Terror" is neither green nor sufficiently terrifying. Worst Hallowe'en ever.
A hairy starfish flower might help!
- Traffic report: Jump back, what's that sound?
Here comes the judge.
- Interview: Joseph Reagle and Jackie Koerner
The co-editors of Wikipedia @ 20.
- News from the WMF: Meet the 2020 Wikimedian of the Year
Sandister Tei.
- Recent research: OpenSym 2020: Deletions and gender, masses vs. elites, edit filters
Ortega's hypothesis was right! (If you start with the right definitions and assumptions.)
- In focus: The many (reported) deaths of Wikipedia
The grove continues to grow – despite periods of dismal predictions.
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The Signpost: 29 November 2020
- News and notes: Jimmy Wales "shouldn't be kicked out before he's ready"
Arbitration Committee elections begin.
- Op-Ed: Re-righting Wikipedia
Wikipedia deprecates more right-wing sources than left-wing sources ... but is it a problem?
- Opinion: How billionaires re-write Wikipedia
Billionaires are different from you and me.
- In the media: Relying on Wikipedia: voters, scientists, and a Canadian border guard
And yes, it does!
- Featured content: Frontonia sp. is thankful for delicious cyanobacteria
The Réunion swamphen is a lot less thankful.
- Traffic report: 007 with Borat, the Queen, and an election
Plus Alex Trebek and the Queen's Gambit.
- News from Wiki Education: An assignment that changed a life: Kasey Baker
Wiki Education and changing our encyclopedia.
- GLAM plus: West Coast New Zealand's Wikipedian at Large
Succeeding one step at a time.
- Wikicup report: Lee Vilenski wins the 2020 WikiCup
Gog the Mild and The Rambling Man in second and third!
- Recent research: Wikipedia's Shoah coverage succeeds where libraries fail
And other new research publications.
- Essay: Writing about women
Male is not the default.
The Signpost: 28 December 2020
- News and notes: Year-end legal surprises cause concern, but Public Domain Day is imminent
New laws in the US and Europe might enable trolls; sad admin milestone for English Wikipedia, or not?
- In the media: Concealment, data journalism, a non-pig farmer, and some Bluetick Hounds
As 2020 draws to a close, this website has been splattered all over the headlines.
- Arbitration report: 2020 election results
Congratulations to the new Arbs!
- Opinion: How to make your factory's safety and labor issues disappear
Edit wars fought on the back of workers.
- Featured content: Very nearly ringing in the New Year with "Blank Space" – but we got there in time.
Texas amphibia, mongeese, and Normandy invasion plans grateful.
- Traffic report: 2020 wraps up
Punks and heroes, losers and winners, the bereaved and the deceased – they're all here.
- News from the WMF: What Wikipedia saw during election week in the U.S., and what we’re doing next
No evidence of large-scale state-sponsored disinformation.
- Recent research: Predicting the next move in Wikipedia discussions
Six million talk page threads analyzed, and other research.
- Essay: Subjective importance
Is not important to notability.
- Op-Ed: An unforgettable year we might wish to forget
The year that was 2020.
- Gallery: Angels in the architecture
Spinning in infinity.
- Humour: 'Twas the Night Before Wikimas
And to all a good night!
The Signpost: 31 January 2021
- News and notes: 1,000,000,000 edits, board elections, virtual Wikimania 2021
Who else but Ser Amantio di Nicolao?
- Special report: Wiki reporting on the United States insurrection
From the Hill to the news to Wikipedia in minutes!
- In focus: From Anarchy to Wikiality, Glaring Bias to Good Cop: Press Coverage of Wikipedia's First Two Decades
A new "wiki journalism" is needed.
- Opinion: Wikipedia's war against scientific disinformation
Are we getting lead by the nose?
- In the media: The world's press says "Happy Birthday!" with a few twists
Even the world's richest man is happy we exist!
- Technology report: The people who built Wikipedia, technically
Starting with trust, expanding, controversy, and opportunities.
- Videos and podcasts: Celebrating 20 years
Multimedia in many styles!
- News from the WMF: Wikipedia celebrates 20 years of free, trusted information for the world
Happy birthday!
- Recent research: Students still have a better opinion of Wikipedia than teachers
And other new research results
- Humour: Dr. Seuss's Guide to Wikipedia
With a special appearance by Senator Ted Cruz!
- Featured content: New Year, same Featured Content report!
...Well, except we did change the articles and pictures out. ...Mostly.
- Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2020
The end of the world as we know it?
- Obituary: Flyer22 Frozen
RIP.
The Signpost: 28 February 2021
- News and notes: Maher stepping down
UCC launch.
- Disinformation report: A "billionaire battle" on Wikipedia: Sex, lies, and video
Edits of the rich and famous.
- Opinion: The call for feedback on community seats is a distraction
Free as in Liberty.
- In the media: Corporate influence at OSM, Fox watching the hen house
Wikidata, Turkey, Valentine's Day and all sorts of bias!
- News from the WMF: Who tells your story on Wikipedia
You can!
- Recent research: Take an AI-generated flashcard quiz about Wikipedia; Wikipedia's anti-feudalism
And other new research publications
- Featured content: A Love of Knowledge, for Valentine's Day
Stealing your heart, and Charles Darwin's notebooks.
- Traffic report: Does it almost feel like you've been here before?
Watching the Super Bowl at the Cecil?
- Gallery: What is Black history and culture?
In paintings, photos, and recordings.
The Signpost: 28 March 2021
- News and notes: A future with a for-profit subsidiary?
Or becoming more business-like?
- Gallery: Wiki Loves Monuments
2020 international winners
- In the media: Wikimedia LLC and disinformation in Japan
Plus CPAC misinformation
- News from the WMF: Project Rewrite: Tell the missing stories of women on Wikipedia and beyond
Telling women’s stories is a radical act.
- Recent research: 10%-30% of Wikipedia’s contributors have subject-matter expertise
And other recent research results
- From the archives: Google isn't responsible for Wikipedia's mistakes
Huge profits sustained by unpaid labor.
- Essay: Wikipedia:The Free Encyclopedia
As in "free software" and "free culture".
- Obituary: Yoninah
Barukh dayan ha-emet ("Blessed is the true judge.")
- From the editor: What else can we say?
What can we link to?
- Arbitration report: Open letter to the Board of Trustees
Let's do the UCoC right!
- Traffic report: Wanda, Meghan, Liz, Phil and Zack
Another royal bash!
The Signpost: 25 April 2021
- From the editor: A change is gonna come
But not soon enough.
- Disinformation report: Paid editing by a former head of state's business enterprise
The Trump Organization's paid editors
- In the media: Fernando, governance, and rugby
Jimmy does OK too!
- Opinion: The (Universal) Code of Conduct
Explicit behavioral expectations are better than unwritten social norms
- Op-Ed: A Little Fun Goes A Long Way
Why do we work so hard to avoid having a sense of humor?
- Changing the world: The reach of protest images on Wikipedia
Wikipedia's retweet and share buttons
- Recent research: Quality of aquatic and anatomical articles
And other research publications
- Traffic report: The verdict is guilty, guilty, guilty
Plus Godzilla and Kong
- News from Wiki Education: Encouraging professional physicists to engage in outreach on Wikipedia
Even a Nobel laureate can learn more!
The Signpost: 25 April 2021
- From the editor: A change is gonna come
But not soon enough.
- Disinformation report: Paid editing by a former head of state's business enterprise
The Trump Organization's paid editors
- In the media: Fernando, governance, and rugby
Jimmy does OK too!
- Opinion: The (Universal) Code of Conduct
Explicit behavioral expectations are better than unwritten social norms
- Op-Ed: A Little Fun Goes A Long Way
Why do we work so hard to avoid having a sense of humor?
- Changing the world: The reach of protest images on Wikipedia
Wikipedia's retweet and share buttons
- Recent research: Quality of aquatic and anatomical articles
And other research publications
- Traffic report: The verdict is guilty, guilty, guilty
Plus Godzilla and Kong
- News from Wiki Education: Encouraging professional physicists to engage in outreach on Wikipedia
Even a Nobel laureate can learn more!
The Signpost: 25 April 2021
- From the editor: A change is gonna come
But not soon enough.
- Disinformation report: Paid editing by a former head of state's business enterprise
The Trump Organization's paid editors
- In the media: Fernando, governance, and rugby
Jimmy does OK too!
- Opinion: The (Universal) Code of Conduct
Explicit behavioral expectations are better than unwritten social norms
- Op-Ed: A Little Fun Goes A Long Way
Why do we work so hard to avoid having a sense of humor?
- Changing the world: The reach of protest images on Wikipedia
Wikipedia's retweet and share buttons
- Recent research: Quality of aquatic and anatomical articles
And other research publications
- Traffic report: The verdict is guilty, guilty, guilty
Plus Godzilla and Kong
- News from Wiki Education: Encouraging professional physicists to engage in outreach on Wikipedia
Even a Nobel laureate can learn more!
The Signpost: 27 June 2021
- News and notes: Elections, Wikimania, masking and more
Submit your candidacy today!
- In the media: Boris and Joe, reliability, love, and money
Will he hang it in the Oval Office?
- Disinformation report: Croatian Wikipedia: capture and release
Curious and curiouser!
- Recent research: Feminist critique of Wikipedia's epistemology, Black Americans vastly underrepresented among editors, Wiki Workshop report
Summaries of 26 new research publications
- Traffic report: So no one told you life was gonna be this way
We'll be there for you!
- News from the WMF: Searching for Wikipedia
How do our readers find us?
- Humour: Wikipedia's best articles on the world's strangest things
It's the wheel thing.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject on open proxies interview
Interview with volunteers at WikiProject on open proxies
- Forum: Is WMF fundraising abusive?
A calm discussion.
- Discussion report: Reliability of WikiLeaks discussed
WikiLeaks on multiple boards.
- Obituary: SarahSV
Requiescat in pace.
The Signpost: 25 July 2021
- News and notes: Wikimania and a million other news stories
And one new admin!
- Special report: Hardball in Hong Kong
Three strikes and you're out?
- In the media: Larry is at it again
Bias, propaganda and more murderous mistakes!
- Board of Trustees candidates: See the candidates
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Recent edit for Miraculous
Hi there! I just wanted to discuss the removal of the "Controversies" paragraph you did. I'd like to make a couple of points, if that's okay. 1) The paragraph discusses about the FAN opinion, so of course you're going to have to cite Twitter for that- that's where a lot of social media activity is. 2) There aren't that many sources besides. 3) Twitter in this instance is reliable enough because if you actually look at the tweets, they show and present the controversial issue.
I'd love to be able to have a discussion on that, but regardless, have a great day. Pohjamadesse1 (talk) 05:05, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia's standards for reliable, verifiable sources aren't lowered because better sources are unavailable; that's entirely the point. Nevertheless, if you wish to discuss then it would be better to do it on the article's talk page. Feel free to let me know if you start such a thread.--~TPW 16:47, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Mass removal from Cthulhu
In the edit comment for this edit, you wrote "unsourced material may be removed at any time". Which is, of course, true, it's a Wiki, any material, sourced or not, may be removed at any time, that's the risk we all face with any content we contribute here. But you wrote it as if you were citing a policy or guideline. Were you? If so, which policy or guideline were you citing? --GRuban (talk) 20:02, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- I was quoting Template:In popular culture, which is presently placed at the top of the section from which I deleted the material without sources.~TPW 01:26, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ah. That actually says "Unsourced material may be challenged and removed." Thank you. --GRuban (talk) 02:27, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Very well, then I paraphrased it as best I could from memory since the template wasn't visible while I was making that edit. If you feel that my edit in any way violated policy, or should otherwise be reconsidered, the talk page of the article will likely generate more interest than discussing it here. ~TPW 16:38, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- I do feel that you deleted too much, yes. We're here cooperating to write the best possible article about Cthulhu that we can, right? It's hard to say we can do that without recognizing the incredible impact of the Call of Cthulhu role-playing game, board games, etc. The way that people first encounter Cthulhu these days isn't through Lovecraft's work, it's specifically through games and movies and so forth. So I'd appreciate it if rather than deleting, you made an effort to cite most of those many paragraphs that you deleted, and only delete that which really isn't important. But of course I can't make you do that, per policy. Just appeal to your better nature. --GRuban (talk) 20:28, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is a reason for the "in popular culture" template: that kind of section attracts information that generally cannot be cited in reliable, verifiable sources. That's why those tidbits accumulate there at all: information that can be properly sourced is likely to be placed somewhere else in the article. Trivia sections like this are often given a pass by editors who scrutinize other sections much more carefully.
- I, too, am looking to improve articles with every edit, and I would not have made that edit for any other reason.
- Again, I encourage you to discuss this on the talk page of the article, where other editors interested in the subject are far more likely to respond. Policy on Wikipedia arises from consensus, and consensus can change, but that won't happen unless you choose a different forum for raising this concern. I appreciate that you reached out to me, but you need a wider audience if you're looking to revisit any of the five pillars of Wikipedia. Please feel free to let me know if you do open such a thread elsewhere, and I'll certainly participate if I am led to.~TPW 00:15, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not revisiting any of the five pillars, I'm appealing to your better nature, to build rather than destroy. --GRuban (talk) 18:46, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- My better nature tells me that the following the policies and processes that are in place are how we build, and allowing unsourced material to accumulate over years is how we destroy. I very much prefer to build.--~TPW 20:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not revisiting any of the five pillars, I'm appealing to your better nature, to build rather than destroy. --GRuban (talk) 18:46, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- I do feel that you deleted too much, yes. We're here cooperating to write the best possible article about Cthulhu that we can, right? It's hard to say we can do that without recognizing the incredible impact of the Call of Cthulhu role-playing game, board games, etc. The way that people first encounter Cthulhu these days isn't through Lovecraft's work, it's specifically through games and movies and so forth. So I'd appreciate it if rather than deleting, you made an effort to cite most of those many paragraphs that you deleted, and only delete that which really isn't important. But of course I can't make you do that, per policy. Just appeal to your better nature. --GRuban (talk) 20:28, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Very well, then I paraphrased it as best I could from memory since the template wasn't visible while I was making that edit. If you feel that my edit in any way violated policy, or should otherwise be reconsidered, the talk page of the article will likely generate more interest than discussing it here. ~TPW 16:38, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ah. That actually says "Unsourced material may be challenged and removed." Thank you. --GRuban (talk) 02:27, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
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West Gilgo proposed deletion.
For a 18 year old article, it definitely needed to have some citations added, which I've done. Thanks for the nudge. dm (talk) 04:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for having the knowledge. ~TPW 17:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
M>Tram / M-Tram
If the correct way to write it is M-Tram, there are probably 20 pages (maybe more) that will need changing from M>Tram or M>Train (heavy rail counter part). Almost all I have seen in the past use this other format in article text. -- ThylacineHunter (talk) 03:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
These are on pages about tram depots, tram companies, and train companies; also possibly on tram types, tram routes, train routes, and train (and carriage) types; amongst other places. -- ThylacineHunter (talk) 03:15, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- I try to base my actions on Wikipedia policy and guideline, rather than what's been done on other pages. Let me know if your preference is rooted in either. All the best. ~TPW 14:15, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: One for One (Julian Austin album)
Hello True Pagan Warrior. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of One for One (Julian Austin album), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. BangJan1999 16:36, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! ~TPW 16:52, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Your proposed deletion of Daisy Whitney
You recently proposed deletion of Daisy Whitney, but the page in question has already been deleted and recreated; the proposed deletion process is only intended for uncontroversial deletions, and if the page gets recreated after deletion then that's normally evidence that the deletion isn't uncontroversial. As such, it's unlikely that an administrator would be able to act on the {{prod}} (there's a policy specifically disallowing proposed deletion being used for pages that have been recreated after an AfD deletion). Sometimes, pages that are deleted at AfD can be speedily deleted if recreated, but so much time has elapsed since the previous deletion that it would make more sense to have a new discussion. I'd recommend using the articles for deletion process instead – it's more suitable for cases where there's historically been disagreement about what to do with the page. --ais523 15:26, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- I agree! I didn't see that there was a prior deletion discussion, or I would have considered that option. Thanks for letting me know. ~TPW 15:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
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Changing direct quotes
I've reverted your edit here, because you changed a quote for no apparent reason: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roy_Sullivan&diff=1105953764&oldid=1105590196 -- It baffles me that you've been editing here since 2007 and dont know that quotes shouldnt just simply be edited --FMSky (talk) 23:42, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- It baffles me that you've been here for nearly two years and haven't learned how to assume good faith and leave talk messages accordingly. Guess we're at an impasse. All the best. ~TPW 14:45, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
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I've reverted your move of Rowing at the 1988 Summer Olympics – Men's coxed four. I'm not sure that MOS:SPORTCAPS supports what you were doing. But more importantly, it has to be consistent across all the rowing events and the gender, which appears after the endash, is always capitalised. That is not to say that we could not change this, but if we do, we'd have to do it for all Olympic rowing articles. There is absolutely no way that this could be done without having a formal move discussion or an RfC. Schwede66 20:53, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Understood! Thanks for raising this in such a courteous manner. ~TPW 01:19, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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- I don’t plan to do so. Schwede66 19:43, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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Ndash capitals and tennis
There was a recent large rfc with MOS and tennis articles. The wording after the ndash was something like "Tournament – Men's Singles." It was decided that per MOS Caps and ndash, all articles would be changed to "Tournament – Men's singles." Please don't change the first letter after the ndash to lower case in tennis articles. I've had to revert a bunch. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:15, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing that to my attention. It might be worth it to expand the rfc to cover all athletics, because I do not see how any editor will know that there's an arbitrary preference one way or the other. ~TPW 18:18, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- You're probably right, but that rfc was rambunctious just to get it to where it is now with a first capitalization after the ndash; the ndash essentially separating two separate headers. My blood pressure is not anxious to get into it again. Cheers. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:10, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Understandable. Emotional value sometimes creeps in to capitalization. ~TPW 08:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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WP:MOSTITLES very explicitly deals with titles of creative works, not titles of office. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 19:15, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yep, should have said MOS:PEOPLETITLES. Thanks for catching that. ~TPW 17:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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Hi. I changed the article back to Pony Penning. Please discuss here Talk:Pony Penning#Name of article if you think there should be a change. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 13:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hi True Pagan Warrior. I notice that you have moved 1,2,3-Benzothiadiazole to 1,2,3-benzothiadiazole, justifying that by MOS:SCIMATH. However, as far as I know, chemicals are an exception to that rule, as laid out at WP:CHEMPREFIX. There are a very large number of articles about organic chemicals which have titles starting with digits, for example 1,2-Dichloroethane. It would be appropriate to discuss any change of the capitalisation at one of the Talk Pages of our Project (e.g. WT:CHEMS) if you really believe the established convention should be changed. Regards. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:25, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Given CHEMPREFIX is a "wikipedia guideline" supported by WP consensus, I have added it to SCIMATH. DMacks (talk) 15:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Given what I discovered in reviewing the sources for just that one chemical, I find the consensus curious. Any idea how I can figure out what sources were drawn on to arrive at that consensus? Based on what I reviewed, it's possible that it's time for consensus to change in this case. ~TPW 14:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- @True Pagan Warrior I searched around and found the discussion from 2005 at WT:WikiProject_Chemicals/Archive_2005#New_activity_proposed:_chemistry_style_guide which in turn refers to the draft still at User:Physchim62/Style guidelines. This includes the same guidance as is now at WP:CHEMPREFIX. I was not involved in that discussion but as a professional organic chemist for >30 years I fully agree with the original recommendations. The frequent error made by many chemists is to write the names of natural products like nicotine as always-capitalised, which of course they should not be because they are not proper nouns. The convention that names like 1,2-dichloroethane are used in identical fashion to dichloroethane or nicotine, capitalised at their first letter in Wikipedia titles and if the first word in a sentence is not only of long standing but one that would be difficult to overturn. You may try if you wish! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- No, I very much understand how emotionally attached people in certain professions are to capitalizing terms that they feel are important to their work. ~TPW 15:41, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- The 2020 ACS Style Guide (doi:10.1021/acsguide.40603) instructs:
The names of chemical compounds may consist of locants, descriptors, and syllabic portions. Locants and descriptors can be numerals, element symbols, small capital letters, Greek letters, Latin letters, italic words and letters, and combinations of these. The syllabic portions of chemical names are the word portions; they are treated like other common nouns: use roman type, keep them lowercase in text and capitalize them at the beginnings of sentences and in titles.
- In general, WP chemistry style tries to follow published style-guides from the major chemistry bodies. DMacks (talk) 20:08, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- @True Pagan Warrior I searched around and found the discussion from 2005 at WT:WikiProject_Chemicals/Archive_2005#New_activity_proposed:_chemistry_style_guide which in turn refers to the draft still at User:Physchim62/Style guidelines. This includes the same guidance as is now at WP:CHEMPREFIX. I was not involved in that discussion but as a professional organic chemist for >30 years I fully agree with the original recommendations. The frequent error made by many chemists is to write the names of natural products like nicotine as always-capitalised, which of course they should not be because they are not proper nouns. The convention that names like 1,2-dichloroethane are used in identical fashion to dichloroethane or nicotine, capitalised at their first letter in Wikipedia titles and if the first word in a sentence is not only of long standing but one that would be difficult to overturn. You may try if you wish! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Given what I discovered in reviewing the sources for just that one chemical, I find the consensus curious. Any idea how I can figure out what sources were drawn on to arrive at that consensus? Based on what I reviewed, it's possible that it's time for consensus to change in this case. ~TPW 14:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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Reading Talk archives also help
In addition to reading Talk:Internment archives, you may also want to familiarize yourself with MOS:BOLDREDIRECT. "Concentration camp" redirects to Internment. Pinchme123 (talk) 18:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- I see you've had past issues with how you've edited that particular article. I will therefore clarify: when an editor suggests taking an issue to talk, the editor means the talk page of the article. That ensures that uninvolved editors weigh in, to generate consensus. You should certainly tag me when you do that. ~TPW 19:01, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't have an issue with the article, you do. If you feel the need to overturn 8.5 years of consensus, and go against the very MOS you pointed to, feel free to take it to Talk to find that new consensus. --Pinchme123 (talk) 19:38, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
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