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Picture of the day

Ravished Armenia, also known as Auction of Souls, is a 1919 American silent film directed by Oscar Apfel and based on the autobiographical book Ravished Armenia by Aurora Mardiganian, a survivor of the Armenian genocide. Mardiganian portrayed herself in the film, which depicts her experiences of deportation, persecution and enslavement during the genocide. Filmed in California, it used thousands of Armenians as extras, many of whom had survived similar events. The film was exhibited internationally and helped raise funds for Armenian and Syrian relief efforts. Long thought lost, it survives only in a 14- to 15-minute fragment rediscovered in Yerevan in 1994. This theatrical poster was produced at the time of Ravished Armenia's release in 1919. The poster features an illustration of a young woman being carried forcefully by a soldier, with a bloodied sword in his other hand.Poster credit: Guenther, after Dan Smith

Adding articles to categories

Hi, you've been adding a large number of articles to Category:Supporters of Ibn Arabi, which you recently created. At least some of the articles you added to that category, such as Baybars, make no mention of the subject's relation to Ibn Arabi. As stated at Wikipedia:Categorization (see WP:CATV section in particular), the categories of an article must still be verifiable in the article itself. That means there should be content in the article itself, supported by reliable sources, that makes it clear that the article belongs in that category. Please do not add articles to categories if they lack that content; even if you know that they should be there, the article should be updated first. (Suggestion: you can leave a comment on the article's talk page if you don't have the time and resources to do this yourself; future editors may be able to do it instead and add the category later.) R Prazeres (talk) 04:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Support

Hello, TheEagle107 and welcome back! It's heart-warming to see you again. I've made several new threads and wondering if you could help me get them the tag for Authority control database. These are: Al-Kiya al-Harrasi, Muhammad bin Husayn al-Sulami, Abu Muhammad al-Juwayni, Al-Halimi and Jamal al-Din al-Isnawi. Thanks! Ayaltimo (talk) 12:59, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

@Ayaltimo:  Done Well, honestly, I have no experience in this field, but I did my best. 😃 PS: The {{Authority control}} template draws its values from Wikidata. For more info, see: H:AC, & WP:VIAF. Please also see: WP:ILL & watch this video on Wikimedia Commons:

Wikimedia Commons has media related to File:Tutorial - How to link a newly created Odia Wikipedia article to other language translations on Wikidata.webm.

You are most welcome, anytime. Best regards.--TheEagle107 (talk) 15:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Wow, you thanked me for my User page! Never had that happen before. It's a nice form of support. Martindo (talk) 21:31, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Martindo: I liked what you wrote about yourself and your life. One of my biggest dreams is to travel the world and see all of the amazing things it has to offer, especially where there is sea, warm sun, and good, kind people. For example, I would like to visit Phuket in Thailand and Bali in Indonesia. Let me take this opportunity to tell you something weird: throughout my life, I've been seeing Asians women are not pretty, but recently I've started to like Japanese and Korean women in particular and find them attractive in some way. 😃 Have a good day and take care. With respect and appreciation.--TheEagle107 (talk) 00:10, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar. Most of my work here is 99.99% editing. I actually forgot that I created some pages. In the case of Sunan Drajat, I actually had never heard of him but decided he needed a page after reading about him on Wali Songo which I spent a lot of time editing some years ago. Martindo (talk) 20:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, TheEagle107 and I hope you're doing well. I just wanted to ask you a favour if you could help me and produce two images of book covers for Al-Asma' wa al-Sifat and a new article I just published today Jam' al-Jawami'. The second one is lacking tags too. :/ All the best! Ayaltimo (talk) 14:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

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Tanbih al-Ghabi bi-Tabri'at Ibn 'Arabi External links in the body

Hi, I was reviewing your article here. I fixed it a bit so the spacing around the ref/notes area is a bit better organised. I notice your using external links in the body of the article. These are strictly illegal and are considered disruptive editing. In this case here I turn them into references. Do not use them from this point forward. If your using them in articles can you remove them. They are great article apart from that. Great series of articles indeed!! scope_creep^Talk 13:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Barnstar for you

		The Epic Barnstar
		Greetings, TheEagle107! I believe it's terribly careless of me to be so late in presenting you this barnstar. We appreciate your diligent and hard work on so many historical people and their works from the classical Ages. Finding and reading them is always a pleasure (and frequently results in exclamations like "At last, someone wrote about this!". May God bless you and keep going! Ayaltimo (talk) 08:30, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

@Ayaltimo:Thank you so much for your kind, encouraging words. Your support means the world to me! Words can't express my gratitude for your thoughtfulness, consideration, and appreciation to my efforts. I really appreciate it! You have just made my day and lifted my spirits! Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🙏 TheEagle107 (talk) 06:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

My apologies

Careless of me. Thank you for pointing that out. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 18:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

My opinion

Some similar opinion I had given on VFF's talk page too.

See my view has been that shifting focus from content to personal concerns benefits the accuser to take content dispute off the track. Solution is from your side give primacy to content dispute and take the discussion back to the track again at earliest.

About personal side usually best solution meet impatience of accuser with patience. Address legitimate concerns so the other side would have less scope to continue off the track.

Refactoring requests

Where personal accusations are clearly factually wrong, arrogant or insulting Wikipedia has a discussion culture where in you reach out to such user at their talk page with section heading 'Refactoring requests'. Cite their specific objectionable difs, mention your concern and request them to correct their sentences. After coming such request a user is generally expected to do self introspection and drop their stick and correct their improper mentions and sentences.

If they don't do leave it their for future users who are similarly affected from similar behavior shall take them to the task at appropriate forum with list of improper behaviour and then community warns. In my point of view this is smarter to save our own time, stress and focus.

I hope you would find my suggestions helpful enough.

Once you go through WP:RFC content issues will get resolved any ways. Bookku (talk) 13:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Proposed RfC

see what you think of sandbox RfC for the Jinn article dispute, I just posted. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 20:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@Louis P. Boog: Good.👍 Short and direct.👌 But I think the title is a bit long, so I suggest deleting the phrase “according to some Muslims.” I do understand that this wording is for the sake of neutrality, which unfortunately has no place in the content of the current article. In fact, there are a large number of primary and secondary sources that confirm that the vast majority of Muslims consider belief in jinn as necessary and essential. Anyway, your real RfC must include all the sources you have to confirm this. Here are some additional sources that will make your argument stronger and more difficult to deny, ignore or sideline:

The existence of jinn, “who are believed in Islam to be part of the Creation, and dwellers of the imaginal,” has also been verified in the 72nd sūrah (“chapter”) of the Holy Quran, “Al-Jinn.” It is believed by the Quran commentators, both Shias and Sunnis, that jinn exist and even reigned the world before the rise of Adam.

Also, check out the book “The Essentials of the Islamic Faith” by Fethullah Gülen (here & here).

There are also other sources, but the sources mentioned in the previous discussions are sufficiently enough to clarify the issue, and prove that the opposing opinion is merely WP:FRINGE. Good luck and all the best.TheEagle107 (talk) 22:35, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

References

Pre-RfC couple of points

@TheEagle107 and @Louis P. Boog

Sorry, my own talk page is overflowing due to my own laziness in archiving it. So updating few points as discussion facilitator here.

• Responses @ Talk:Jinn#Pre-RfC of @TheEagle107 and VFF seem helpful as synopsis too. Though I was expecting a little short and specific answer from TheEagle107, as we go to RfCs avoid repetitions be concise and specific as much possible, if your answer is becoming larger use collapse template.

• @Louis P. Boog I had to paraphrase User:Louis P. Boog/sandbox/Jinn sandbox 4-20-2024 to be on safer side temporarily due to CR concerns expressed by VFF. You can re-paraphrase or copy edit those before we begin RfC.

You have one VFF's an OR concern to be addressed @ Talk:Jinn#Pre-RfC or leave it for RfC

• I initiated WP:RSN#Hachette Livre, after this RSN conclusion we shall discuss RfC formatting at new subsection of Talk:Jinn#Pre-RfC and at that stage you may wish to invite DRN moderator admin User:Robert McClenon to help in formulating neutral question for the RfC.

I hope these tips help in a smooth RfC. Bookku (talk) 10:34, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@Bookku: and @Louis P. Boog: Please make yourselves at home and enjoy the discussions! 🙂TheEagle107 (talk) 12:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Tag related discussion at NPOVN

@TheEagle107

1) RfC questions are not comprehensive enough, what I suggest is write section wise summary in your own words that will benefit you in multiple ways including better formation of RFC questions.

2) It's almost six days at NPOVN and some how topic could not attract any independent inputs yet.

There are three ways, First drop the idea of placing POV templates, Second relist NPOVN in new subsection and wait for another week, third Create an RfC there itself, fourth wait for what Talk:Jinn RfC says.

Since there is no express support for POV tag at NPOVN so my advice is to drop the idea of POV tagging since Wikipedians generally do not seem to support POV tagging of the articles. But last decision is yours how much to pursue for the same.

Bookku (talk) 17:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Bookku: Well, since User:Louis P. Boog is not active much online recently, so I think it would be more appropriate to create a separate RfC on my own (see Multiple RfCs on one page). Anyway, thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful assistance and guidance, MUCH appreciated! 🙏 Best regards.--TheEagle107 (talk) 13:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

@ Bookku @TheEagle107

I'm back. Was distracted. Where are we with RfC? I recall writing a tentative RfC for Bookku's approval. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 00:38, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Jinn issue

Hope you have not abandoned the Jinn RfC. I am ready to wrok on it when you come back. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 22:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Reported

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Friendly advice

@TheEagle107

Greetings, I would have preferred to share following peer advice -based on your contributions related to the article Jinn when you are around, you seem to be on edit break since June 2 - some points you might have improved but for brevity I am mentioning again- I hope you will go through following points as and when you join back.

• By now you know importance so maintain your focus on reliable academic sources.
• Your mentions of relevant reliable academic sources are coming in random and scattered manner in various sections and different different talk pages. You need to improve in relevant references are available in right discussion at right time to get right attention.
• If you are making mentions of non-academic sources let others know purpose of such mentions more clearly to avoid misunderstandings. Get confirmed contested sources from WP:RSN.
• Besides I have already suggested to update in own sandbox the way LPB did that helps other users to understand your expectations more clearly. Also always write 'Non-personalised' summaries of discussions points - proper summary before RfC can be grate aid.
• Preferably discuss the neutral RfC question even with opposing side to take them into confidence, and take assistance of experienced RfC writing users from WT:RfC.

Your RfC was neutral but mixed of multiple things like Info-box issue, Section heading, and considering all paragraphs together - issues should be distinctly identifiable so input givers can express opinions separately on each issue. Present win all or loose all policy unhelpful to your own goals.

• Avoid over all haste, personalization, and temptation of reverts. Specially when a discussion is ongoing avoid updating/ reverting article without very clear consensus.
• I suppose edits to info-boxes are WP:CTOP area everyone need to follow editing guidelines more meticulously and avoid edit wars.
• Other users expected you to take note of WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT, WP:HUSH and WP:RNPOV.
• Practice yourself and make other users practice to limit content dispute on article talk page and personal altercations on user talk page.
• Do not make input requests from other users randomly - that can be misconstrued as canvassing.

The article, article talk page, relevant topic related articles or from related categories, related project pages - when you invite invite all active users

As above mentioned some points you are likely to have improved but for brevity I am mentioning again- I hope you will go through above points as and when you join back that helps your and Wikipedia's growth. Happy editing. Bookku (talk) 07:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

RfC in Jinn

A recent RfC in Jinn may be of interest to you. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 01:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@Louis P. Boog: I have already commented on this RFC! 🙂 Just check the talk page history. 🤓 Anyway, thank you for your great efforts. Keep it up! 👍👍👍--TheEagle107 (talk) 03:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Oops --Louis P. Boog (talk) 01:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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Quotations are allowed as long as they are short/brief and verifiably attributed to a reliable source, they are considered fair use and exception to the copyright laws. The beginning of the sentence started with "According to the Encyclopedia of Renaissance Philosophy, ...".--TheEagle107 (talk) 19:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

You are correct that short quotations are allowed. But there weren't any quotation marks to indicate you intended it to be a quotation. Diannaa (talk) 19:33, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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RfC on images containing Islamic honorifics or calligraphy

There is an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles#RfC on images containing Islamic honorifics or calligraphy, offering various proposals on the text of MOS:CALLIGRAPHY.

You have been invited to comment on this RfC because you participated in the discussion which lead to the creation of this guideline. Kind regards, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 11:26, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Ehsan Elahi Zaheer

Sorry, looks like I lost some of your edits while cleaning up from socks there. DMacks (talk) 04:25, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

@DMacks: No problem at all, I completely understand! Thank you for your thoughtfulness and consideration—I truly appreciate it. And thanks for moving the page back to its previous title, I tried to move it myself, but I couldn't. Kind regards, peace and respect! 🕊️--TheEagle107 (talk) 04:02, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad

Hello, I removed unverifiable info again. AHM main interests include sufism, but he refrains from having an order or using labels and does not self-describe as a sufi. I know a fair amount about AHM and choose not to disclose any details that are personal. He is my special interest. So I know my stuff. Please stop undoing my edits.

thanks in advance :) WikiAuthor110 (talk) 01:14, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

@WikiAuthor110: Sorry for bothering you, but the source says "Abdal Hakim likewise refers to his shaykh and is known as a Sufi." It's OK if you disagree, but I kindly ask you to add your concerns to the article's talk page. It's fine if you want to edit the page, but please be familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Happy editing, and good luck! Peace. 🕊️--TheEagle107 (talk) 05:05, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

I will also add it to the talk page. The Source has no citations for him specifically therefore it appears to be a generalisation. WikiAuthor110 (talk) 13:06, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

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The Special Barnstar

The Special Barnstar

Peace be upon you, and the mercy of God and His blessings. Mawlid Mubarak! I was delighted to see the surprise you prepared for the blessed occasion of the Mawlid. I had a strong feeling it would be related to kalām. My intuition suggested that your surprise would either concern Al-Mawāqif fī ʿilm al-Kalām or something connected to al-Sanūsī. You certainly did not disappoint. Your article on Umm al-Barāhīn is deeply impressive in both its thoroughness and clarity. I could immediately see the dedication, research, and scholarly spirit you poured into it. Your contribution is a gift to readers and students of Islamic thought, and I am sincerely grateful for the effort you put into highlighting such an important work. To recognize this achievement, I would like to present you with this special barnstar as a token of appreciation for your valuable efforts. May God grant you continued success in your knowledge and contributions. Ayaltimo (talk) 13:40, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@Ayaltimo: And may the peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be upon you as well. This is truly heartwarming to read. Jazak Allahu Khayran for your immense kindness and for taking the time to write this. I am truly humbled. Thank you so much for your incredibly kind and generous words. I am deeply honored to receive the barnstar and truly glad that you found my contribution valuable. Your recognition is a tremendous motivation to continue.

Yes, you are right—your guess and intuition are excellent!👍🏻 You were very close, especially when I noticed that you edited the article of al-Maghili (here) and added this sentence: "He also studied under the prominent Ash'ari theologian, al-Sanusi." By the way, I was the one who created the article about al-Mawaqif for the Arabic Wikipedia. I also helped the Kalam article become a featured one there. Speaking of which, before you created the article on 'Adud al-Din al-'Iji, I had been thinking of creating it myself, but you beat me to it! Sometimes I get really lazy—only sometimes, though! 😃

Ameen to your du'a' (supplication). May God bless you abundantly for your encouragement and kindness. 💚--TheEagle107 (talk) 15:47, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

As-salāmu ʿalaykum wa raḥmatullāh,

JazākAllāhu khayran for your beautiful words and kind duʿāʾ. It really means a lot. May Allah bless you and increase you in knowledge and goodness. 🌿

Please don’t mind me reducing the author section, it was only because I felt that too much detail about al-Sanūsī inside the book article might distract from the main subject. This is why I made Muhammad ibn Yusuf al-Sanusi and I hope you like it! I thought he truly deserved his own article instead, just like when I was working on Balāgha. I had considered making a detailed author section for Talkhīṣ al-Miftāḥ, but realized it could overwhelm the page, so I created Jalāl al-Dīn al-Qazwīnī separately.

InshāʾAllāh, this way both the author and the book receive proper focus without one overshadowing the other.

Again, I’m really inspired by your contributions (especially on Umm al-Barāhīn). May Allah put barakah in your efforts. ✨ Ayaltimo (talk) 13:25, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

@Ayaltimo: PS: Imam al-Sanusi wrote a commentary on the book "Jawahir al-'Ulum (or Jawahir al-Kalam)" by Imam al-'Iji, which is an abridgment of "al-Mawaqif". To clarify the chain of authorship: Imam al-'Iji first authored the major work "al-Mawaqif", then he produced an abridgment of it titled "Jawahir al-Kalam (or Jawahir al-'Ulum)". Subsequently, Imam al-Sanusi authored a commentary on this abridgment. 🙂--TheEagle107 (talk) 16:48, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Help

As-salamu alaykum, I hope you’re doing well. I've been following your recent article updates and really appreciate the work you've been putting into them, it’s definitely five-star quality.

I'm reaching out because I’ve encountered a challenge with my latest article, Balagha. It was recently moved back to draft status, originally due to “lack of sources,” though I had included citations. I've since added additional references and expanded the content. However, I noticed that I may have used multiple peacock expressions (as noted in the sources) which explains why my submission was declined. I've paraphrased these sections but wanted to ask if you could kindly review it and check if any improvements are needed or if I might have missed something.

Thank you very much for your time and support, I really appreciate it, and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Best regards, Ayaltimo (talk) 01:46, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

@Ayaltimo:And upon you too be peace, God's mercy and blessings. Thank you for your trust. The current content suffers from fundamental problems in tone and style that prevent it from meeting Wikipedia's standards. You can rephrase the existing text but within a new framework, and add the missing information through research. Search on Google Scholar and Google Books for "Arabic rhetoric", "Balagha" or "Islamic rhetoric" to find more academic sources in English.

Here is a proposed structure for the article, with an explanation for each section:

1. The Introduction

The introduction should be concise, comprehensive, and definitional, written in a neutral academic tone. It could be as follows:

Balagha (Arabic: بَلَاغَة) is the science of eloquence and linguistic excellence in Arabic rhetoric. It is one of the principal sciences of the Arabic language, concerned with effectively conveying a message with appropriateness to the context. Traditionally, Balagha is divided into three main branches: 'Ilm al-Ma'ani (علم المعاني, the science of meanings), 'Ilm al-Bayan (علم البيان, the science of clarity and exposition), and 'Ilm al-Badi' (علم البديع, the science of embellishment). Its principles are foundational to the analysis and appreciation of classical Arabic texts, most notably being employed in discussions of the inimitability of the Qur'an (I'jaz).

2. Proposed Structure for Article Sections

· Etymology and definition

 · A brief explanation of the term linguistically and technically.

· History and development (or Historical development)–How it originated and evolved through the ages.

 · Early beginnings: Roots in the pre-Islamic and early Islamic periods.
 · Systematization as a science: The role of scholars like al-Jahiz and 'Abd al-Qahir al-Jurjani (as a focal point) in establishing it as an independent science.
 · Later contributions: Scholars from later periods like al-Sakkaki and al-Zamakhshari.

· Main branches

 · 'Ilm al-Ma'ani (Science of Meanings): Deals with the appropriateness of speech to the context.
 · 'Ilm al-Bayan (Science of Exposition): Concerned with the different ways of expressing a single meaning, including simile (al-tashbih), metaphor (al-isti'ara), metonymy (al-kinaya), and figurative speech (al-majaz).
 · 'Ilm al-Badi' (Science of Embellishment): Focuses on verbal and semantic embellishments that enhance the text, such as rhyme (al-saj'), antithesis (al-tibaq), contrast (al-muqabala), and paronomasia (al-jinas).

· Significance and applications

 · In Qur'anic studies: Mentioning the "inimitability of the Qur'an" (I'jaz) as a major application area without excessive length.
 · In Arabic literature: Its application in analyzing poetry and prose throughout the ages.

· Relationship with other sciences: Such as literary criticism, linguistics, and pragmatics in modern studies.

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Here is a quick summary of the steps:

1. Change the tone to a formal, academic one.
2. Divide the article into clear sections. Use concise headings and avoid unnecessary use of diacritics (e.g., Arabic vowel marks) to enhance readability and organization. Use diacritics only when needed to prevent confusion, because too many of them make long texts hard to read.
3. Add the missing historical and scientific information.
4. Support every sentence with a reliable source.

The article could be improved by simplifying its long titles and removing unnecessary diacritics. For instance, change the section title 'Major Works and Authors' to the more concise 'Major works.' Within this section, list book titles first, followed by the author's name, and remove the unnecessary diacritics.

Additionally, sections like 'Systematization and Classical Codification (5th–7th Centuries AH)' should be presented as continuous text without internal subheadings for a smoother flow. For example:

The fifth through seventh centuries AH (roughly corresponding to the 11th to 13th centuries CE) witnessed the systematization and classical codification of Arabic rhetorical theory (balāgha). A pivotal figure in this development was ʿAbd al-Qāhir al-Jurjānī (d. 1078), who is widely regarded as the foundational theorist of classical balāgha. He established a comprehensive theory of rhetorical effectiveness centered on the concept of naẓm, which concerns the intricate relationship between syntactic structures and semantic meaning. His two major works, Dalāʾil al-Iʿjāz (Proofs of Inimitability), which focuses on semantic structures, and Asrār al-Balāgha (Secrets of Eloquence), which explores imagery and figurative speech, laid the theoretical groundwork for the field.

The application of these rhetorical principles to Qur'anic exegesis was profoundly advanced by al-Zamakhsharī (d. 1144), a Mu'tazilite scholar. His commentary, al-Kashshāf, was the first to place rhetorical analysis at the heart of interpreting the Qur'anic text. He also authored Asās al-Balāgha, a pioneering dictionary dedicated to figurative expressions. While his theological views were controversial, his linguistic and rhetorical insights have been consistently acknowledged for their significant contribution to the study of the Qur'an's unique eloquence.

The formal codification of balāgha into its now-standard tripartite structure was achieved by al-Sakkākī (d. 1229) in his encyclopedic work, Miftāḥ al-ʿUlūm (The Key to the Sciences). He organized the science into the three core disciplines of ʿilm al-maʿānī (the study of semantic structures), ʿilm al-bayān (the study of figurative speech), and ʿilm al-badīʿ (the study of rhetorical embellishments). This comprehensive framework proved highly influential for subsequent generations of scholars.

Finally, Jalāl al-Dīn al-Qazwīnī (d. 1338) played a crucial role in consolidating and disseminating this knowledge. He produced an abridgement of al-Sakkākī's work entitled Talkhīṣ al-Miftāḥ (The Summary of the Key), which he later explained in his own commentary, al-ʾĪḍāḥ fī ʿUlūm al-Balāgha (The Clarification of the Sciences of Rhetoric). These two texts, celebrated for their clarity and methodical organization, became central to Islamic educational curricula for centuries. Al-Qazwīnī is thus credited with creating the structured and accessible framework that served as the standard reference for the study and teaching of balāgha throughout the post-classical period and beyond.

I hope you find these suggestions helpful. Working on this draft according to these suggestions will significantly improve its quality and increase its chances of being accepted. If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Best of luck! 🌻--TheEagle107 (talk) 21:08, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your feedback and for giving me ideas, especially the one you boxed below. I reviewed my own edits and realized I had used too many formats, so I went ahead and corrected the Systematization and Classical Codification section accordingly. You were definitely right that the extra titles were unnecessary; I appreciate you catching and fixing that.

I also noticed your work on the Subfields section, your additions really improved clarity and structure. I just needed to locate reliable sources to support them, which I’ve now done. Again, thank your very much for your support! Ayaltimo (talk) 02:52, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

You are most welcome! Please note: section headings should be presented in sentence case, per MOS:HEADINGS. For example: (Contemporary application and Qur'anic rhetorical exegesis), not title case (Contemporary Application and Qur'anic Rhetorical Exegesis). All the best.--TheEagle107 (talk) 20:47, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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		Dear TheEagle107, I’ve noticed the many articles you’ve contributed on Islamic theology, and it’s clear that your efforts are helping to illuminate these important topics for Wikipedia readers. Your commitment to exploring and sharing this knowledge is inspiring. Thank you for your valuable contributions—your work truly enriches the encyclopedia and encourages others to learn.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 11:29, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

@Owais Al Qarni:Thank you so much for taking the time to write such kind and encouraging words! It is truly heartening to receive such positive feedback. Contributors like you are what make the Wikipedia community so valuable, and I am delighted to know that my contributions are making a positive impact.

It has been on my mind to award you a barnstar for your excellent work in creating "Al-Luma" and "Al-Ibana" by Imam al-Ash'ari. However, I've been busy expanding and enriching the content of "Umm al-Barahin" by Imam al-Sanusi.

Actually, I had been thinking from several months about writing an article on the book Al-Luma'. I was planning to create it after finishing my work on Umm al-Barahin, but you beat me to it—and did a better job than I would have. Well done! 👏🏻

By the way, when you have some free time, I would be grateful if you could review the "Draft:Balagha" and share your insights or suggestions for improvement. Your expertise would be a great help. 🙏🏻

Thank you once again for your generous feedback. It is sincerely appreciated, and I wish you all the best in your endeavors. Kind regards from EGYPT. 💚🕊️🌻TheEagle107 (talk) 18:20, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

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Motivation

Hello @TheEagle107:,

While looking through the categories of Ashari and Maturidi theological literature on Wikipedia, I noticed that most of them were published by you. I know that you've been mostly offline this year, but I just wanted to reach out to express my appreciation for your incredible contributions.

Out of respect for your work and dedication, Ive refrained from publishing any theology-related articles myself. Instead, I wanted to share a list of works that might inspire you or serve as goals for future expansion on Wikipedia, perhaps to motivate you when you return:

1. Kitab Usul al-Din by Abu Mansur al-Baghdadi.
2. Al-Ishara ila Madhhab Ahl al-Haqq by Abu Ishaq al-Shirazi.
3. Expansion of Al-Irshad and publication of Al-Shamil fi Usul al-Din, Al-Aqida al-Nizamiyya, and Luma al-Adilla fi Qawaid Aqaid Ahl al-Sunna by al-Juwayni.
4. Iljam al-Awwam an Ilm al-Kalam by al-Ghazali.
5. Expansion of Al-Milal wa al-Nihal and publication of Nihayat al-Iqdam fi Ilm al-Kalam by al-Shahrastani.
6. Al-Muhassal by Fakhr al-Din al-Razi and Abkar al-Afkar by Sayf al-Din al-Amidi.
7. Al-Mawaqif fi Ilm al-Kalam and Aqaid al-Adudiyya by Adud al-Din al-Iji, along with the commentaries on Al-Mawaqif by al-Taftazani, al-Sharif al-Jurjani, and al-Dawani.
8. Risalah fi al-Radd ala Ibn Taymiyyah fi Masalat Hawadith La Awwala Laha by Baha al-Din al-Ikhmimi.
9. Al-Aqida al-Kubra and Al-Aqida al-Wusta by Muhammad ibn Yusuf al-Sanusi.
10. Risala fi Ilm al-Tawhid by Ibrahim al-Bajuri,
11. Al-Sharh al-Kabir ala al-Aqida al-Tahawiyya and Al-Kashif al-Saghir an Aqaid Ibn Taymiyya by Sa'id Foudah.

Your efforts have already laid a solid foundation for documenting classical kalam works in the digital age. I hope this message encourages you to continue that noble effort when you return. Your contributions are truly appreciated and have inspired many of us.

Warm regards, Ayaltimo (talk) 13:48, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

@Ayaltimo: Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a wonderfully encouraging and thoughtful message. It truly means a lot to me that the work I've done has been appreciated and has served as a foundation for others interested in this rich field of knowledge.

Well, I am currently focused on expanding and enriching the Umm al-Barahin article. I am about 70-80% through this substantial task and am dedicating all my efforts to bringing it to 'Featured Article' status. God willing, once this task is done, I'll take a well-deserved break! Creating an article of this caliber is no small feat—it requires a massive investment of time in research, writing, translation, and formatting. While readers may get through it in minutes, the journey to create a Featured Article can take a year, two, or even more!

I am glad to see the list of works you've shared; it's a great and well-considered compilation of pivotal texts in Islamic theology. Actually, I have already created most of these works on Arabic Wikipedia. This has been a long-term project of mine. However, I must sincerely ask that you do not feel the need to refrain from publishing on these topics; on the contrary, it would bring me great joy!

One of the core principles that makes Wikipedia so valuable is that no one "owns" any article. Collaboration is the very heart of the project, and a topic benefits immensely from multiple perspectives and contributors.

Please, consider this my wholehearted encouragement for you or any other dedicated editor to start creating and expanding these articles. Your initiative and knowledge are exactly what we need.

I am genuinely inspired by your message and your evident dedication. When I am able to contribute more actively again, I would be delighted to collaborate with you on these goals, sharing resources and insights to help build a comprehensive and high-quality body of work on these theological subjects for the English-speaking audience.

By the way, if you don't mind, please add your name here & here.

Thank you again for your kind words and for your commitment to this project.

Best regards!TheEagle107 (talk) 16:47, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

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