Suvaborg
Joined 20 July 2025
Latest comment: 10 months ago by Moneytrees in topic Blocked as a sockpuppet
Verifiability
editHi, it looks like you're a new editor but just adding an entire book as a source isn't enough because it is not practical to look up the information in the book. Please specify the exact page(s) where the information can be found. Thanks for trying to improve the encyclopedia! (t · c) buidhe 18:13, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- What you are saying is true but why are you posting this here? I don't recall citing anything other than a book review from The New York Times. Suvaborg (talk) 18:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- It looks like you removed a bunch of [page needed] tags in this diff where the source was an entire book. (t · c) buidhe 20:35, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah. There were over 20 tags. I should have read the article first, which I didn't, and I see now that the tags I removed were in a controversial section of the article. Is the only option leaving the 28 tags in section indefinitely? Suvaborg (talk) 10:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- You can put the tags in the ref that's repeated 20x so it's still visible to editors but less obvious to readers. I agree that is a better solution. (t · c) buidhe 17:08, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah. There were over 20 tags. I should have read the article first, which I didn't, and I see now that the tags I removed were in a controversial section of the article. Is the only option leaving the 28 tags in section indefinitely? Suvaborg (talk) 10:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- It looks like you removed a bunch of [page needed] tags in this diff where the source was an entire book. (t · c) buidhe 20:35, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
July 2025
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Please stop. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Torture, you may be blocked from editing. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 04:33, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please use the talk page instead of repeatedly removing sourced content from the page. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 04:33, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Suvaborg removing the warning from your talk page doesn't solve anything. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 04:35, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- What do you think you are solving by leaving warnings when there is a talk page. You removed two different edits. One was a removal of sourced content that has already been discussed on talk. The other was a removal of an image showing a self-defense item that has never been shown to be used in torture. It is a branded item so this is improper without evidence. The misleading caption and sourced text in the article that I am going to fix minimizes the seriousness of electroshock torture, which sometimes does leave marks (showable by other sources), and in the case of tasers a specific model that was discontinued. You are the one who removed this sourced content with a false edit summary and without discussion. It's easier to add low quality content then expect others fix it, unless you are doing something do not leave any further "warnings" on my talk page. Suvaborg (talk) 04:46, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Proper consensus hasn't formed in the talk page yet, but I'll stay out of this since you would just get reverted by one of the involved editors there. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 04:48, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, there is a discussion and there is consensus against including the content you restored. It's an increasingly stupid dispute of an editor wanting others to fix content they want in an FA article and not doing it themselves. My understanding of the discussion is that it has been removed by mutiple editors because it's not appropriate for FA. Suvaborg (talk) 05:00, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Proper consensus hasn't formed in the talk page yet, but I'll stay out of this since you would just get reverted by one of the involved editors there. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 04:48, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- What do you think you are solving by leaving warnings when there is a talk page. You removed two different edits. One was a removal of sourced content that has already been discussed on talk. The other was a removal of an image showing a self-defense item that has never been shown to be used in torture. It is a branded item so this is improper without evidence. The misleading caption and sourced text in the article that I am going to fix minimizes the seriousness of electroshock torture, which sometimes does leave marks (showable by other sources), and in the case of tasers a specific model that was discontinued. You are the one who removed this sourced content with a false edit summary and without discussion. It's easier to add low quality content then expect others fix it, unless you are doing something do not leave any further "warnings" on my talk page. Suvaborg (talk) 04:46, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Suvaborg removing the warning from your talk page doesn't solve anything. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 04:35, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
Blocked as a sockpuppet
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