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I thank you a lot for this invite, and i accept.

This sounds like a fantastic initiativ. Ottomanhistoria (talk) 16:09, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sheikhs of Tavil (July 20)

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Cerebellum (talk) 09:58, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation

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Ottomanhistoria (talk) 19:58, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

The page is partly based on 3 other wiki-pages on the subject:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Ali_Hisam-ad-Din_Naqshbandi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uthman_Sirâj-ud-Dîn_Naqshbandi

And the name of the family is well known as the sheikhs of Tavil, or the Tavili sheikhs, as its proven in the wiki-page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqshbandi_Golden_Chain#Tavîlî_Chain

The Tavili chain, is the name of the spiritual lineage that the family represent, hence the name "Sheikhs of Tavil".

Your submission at Articles for creation

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Ottomanhistoria (talk) 20:11, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello.

I have re-written the page, to a more neutral page.

The page is based on two other wiki-pages on the subject, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Ali_Hisam-ad-Din_Naqshbandi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uthman_Sirâj-ud-Dîn_Naqshbandi

And the name of the family is well known as the sheikhs of Tavil, or the Tavili sheikhs, as its proven in the wiki-page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqshbandi_Golden_Chain#Tavîlî_Chain

The Tavili chain, is the name of the spiritual lineage that the family represent, hence the name "Sheikhs of Tavil".

The sheikhs of Tavil has a lot of different pages, especially on Turkish, as is the sources I have cited on the page, their family tree etc.

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Şah_Ali_Hüsameddin

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammed_Bahâeddin_et-Tavilî

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osman_Sirâceddîn_et-Tavilî

Hope you find it interesting. Thank you a lot.

Kind regards Zhelwan.

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Cerebellum (talk) 09:50, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Ways to improve Omar Diya-ud-Din al-Tavili

Hello, Ottomanhistoria,

Thank you for creating Omar Diya-ud-Din al-Tavili.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

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Mccapra (talk) 16:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Berun Omar Fatah for deletion

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Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:05, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

I am writing to respectfully draw attention to the fact that Berun Omar Fatah is a recognized public figure within the Kurdistan Region of Iraq. As can be seen from the images on the Wikipedia page, he is connected to prominent Kurdish leaders such as Nechirvan Barzani, Bafel Talabani, and Qubad Talabani.

His political party, the National Reform Movement, has been invited to various negotiations and has a sufficient number of members to be acknowledged by all major parties in the region.

Furthermore, Mr. Fatah frequently gives interviews to major Kurdish media outlets such as NRT, Rudaw, Gali Kurdistan, and Kurdsat, among others.

He is regularly invited to meetings at several foreign consulates, including the German and Dutch consulates. Most recently, he was invited by the Chinese Consul General, which was even published on the official Facebook page of the Chinese Consulate - they acknowledge Mr. Fatah, and his political movement as legitimate, and I hope this will be taken into consideration in the ongoing deletion discussion. The Link: https://www.facebook.com/ChineseconsulateErbil/posts/pfbid032PhrY9FgDy2vLfRHcvErsNTEvTcYuocUdvDtxDg6Xpeyg6oAj6PdtS323VRJ4jc1l

I would like to send you images and attach relevant documents, but I understand that this is not possible through this message.

Could you please let me know where I can send them?

If further information is needed, or if there are specific elements that should be edited or improved to meet Wikipedia’s guidelines, I would be more than happy to assist. Ottomanhistoria (talk) 11:40, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

I am writing to respectfully draw attention to the fact that Berun Omar Fatah is a recognized public figure within the Kurdistan Region of Iraq. As can be seen from the images on the Wikipedia page, he is connected to prominent Kurdish leaders such as Nechirvan Barzani, Bafel Talabani, and Qubad Talabani.

His political party, the National Reform Movement, has been invited to various negotiations and has a sufficient number of members to be acknowledged by all major parties in the region.

Furthermore, Mr. Fatah frequently gives interviews to major Kurdish media outlets such as NRT, Rudaw, Gali Kurdistan, and Kurdsat, among others.

He is regularly invited to meetings at several foreign consulates, including the German and Dutch consulates. Most recently, he was invited by the Chinese Consul General, which was even published on the official Facebook page of the Chinese Consulate - they acknowledge Mr. Fatah, and his political movement as legitimate, and I hope this will be taken into consideration in the ongoing deletion discussion. The Link: https://www.facebook.com/ChineseconsulateErbil/posts/pfbid032PhrY9FgDy2vLfRHcvErsNTEvTcYuocUdvDtxDg6Xpeyg6oAj6PdtS323VRJ4jc1l

I would like to send you images and attach relevant documents, but I understand that this is not possible through this message.

Could you please let me know where I can send them?

If further information is needed, or if there are specific elements that should be edited or improved to meet Wikipedia’s guidelines, I would be more than happy to assist. Ottomanhistoria (talk) 14:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Ottomanhistoria. Thank you for your work on National Reform Movement (Kurdistan). Another editor, Old-AgedKid, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

good page

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Old-AgedKid (talk) 14:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Omar Diya-ud-Din al-Tavili for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Omar Diya-ud-Din al-Tavili until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Mccapra (talk) 13:42, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I created these pages as faithful translations of the existing Turkish Wikipedia articles. I didn’t add new claims or remove material; I carried over the content and citations as they appear on the Turkish versions. The topics are already covered there with multiple sources, and non-English, reliable sources are valid on Wikipedia.

If the concern is attribution or formatting, I’m happy to fix that immediately (e.g., by adding the

template on the talk page, improving citations, and polishing style). If notability or sourcing needs to be clearer in English, I can also add additional references and context. These are all issues that can be improved without deletion.

Given that the content is verifiable in the Turkish sources and can be improved here, I don’t see a strong reason to delete. Please consider keeping the articles (or, if needed, merging/redirecting) rather than deleting. I’m glad to collaborate on any fixes. Ottomanhistoria (talk) 16:02, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

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