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Latest comment: 12 years ago by EdwardsBot in topic The Signpost: 24 July 2013

July 2013

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The Signpost: 03 July 2013

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  • In the media: Jimmy Wales is not an Internet billionaire; a mass shooter's alleged Wikipedia editing
    Amy Chozick's profile of Jimmy Wales in the New York Times sparked significant controversy in international news outlets this week. Chozick's profile covered Wales's personal life, including his 12-year-old daughter, ex-wife, and current wife Kate Garvey, describing Wales himself as "a well-groomed version of a person who has been slumped over a computer drinking Yoo-hoo for hours." Chozick described his current role in Wikipedia as "Benevolent Dictator for Life", a statement which garnered conflict from all corners of the web, including from Wales, who responded to the piece as a whole with a lengthy talk page statement.
  • Featured content: Queen of France
    Four articles, four lists, and fifteen pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
  • WikiProject report: Puppies!
    This week, the Signpost went to the kennel and interviewed WikiProject Dogs. The project has several featured and good articles, along with a large number of "Did you know" entries. We asked three project members about the challenges of creating, curating, and maintaining canine content in an increasingly dog-obsessed world.
  • News and notes: Wikipedia's medical collaborations gathering pace
    The key annual event in the Wikimedia calendar, Wikimania 2013, will be held in Hong Kong in just five weeks' time. Among the events will be a presentation by two people who are working to promote the development of medical content on Wikimedia projects. One is James Heilman of Wiki Project Med, a non-profit dedicated to making "clear, reliable, comprehensive, up-to-date educational resources and information in the biomedical and related social sciences freely available to all people in the language of their choice". The other is Lori Thicke, president of Translators Without Borders (TWB), the Connecticut-based organisation set up in 2010 to provide pro-bono translation services for humanitarian non-profits
  • Technology report: VisualEditor in midst of game-changing deployment series
    The VisualEditor extension has gone live by default to registered users on the English Wikipedia, marking a huge milestone in a project that has taken the best part of a decade to reach fruition. The extension was previously described as "the biggest and most important change to our user experience we’ve ever undertaken" by the WMF team behind it.
  • Traffic report: Yahoo! crushes the competition ... in Wikipedia views
    The real world made a strong showing in the top 10 last week, as news stories such as Yahoo!'s purchase of Tumblr, the murder of Odin Lloyd, the continuing drama over NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and the ill-health of Nelson Mandela crowded out the usual roster of TV shows, movies, websites and video games. Not that they were entirely excluded, of course.
  • Arbitration report: Tea Party movement reopened, new AUSC appointments
    Following a one-month period of moderated discussion, Tea Party movement has been reopened by the Committee. The proposed decisions are currently being voted upon. Race and politics remains suspended pending the return of User:Apostle12.
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The Signpost: 10 July 2013

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  • News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation Board appoints world expert in women's issues, global south
    In apparent acknowledgment of the urgency of two issues facing the Wikimedia movement—the need to engage both women and the global south—the WMF Board has appointed Ana Toni as one of its four expert members. Toni will bring rare expertise to the movement, and the Signpost understands that her skills in advocacy and her key roles in international NGOs are likely to be a natural match with the WMF as the hub of disseminating free knowledge around the world.
  • Dispatches: Infoboxes: time for a fresh look?
    The fundamental idea of an infobox is clear: keep it simple and limited to essentials. At some point, however, these basic principles seem to have been abandoned, in favour of an approach akin to "the more the merrier".
  • Featured content: The week of the birds
    Five articles, six lists, and ten pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.

The Signpost: 17 July 2013

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  • WikiProject report: WikiProject Square Enix
    This week, we explored the fantasy worlds of video game developer Square Enix by interviewing WikiProject Square Enix. The project began in September 2006 as a spin-off of WikiProject Final Fantasy, but today covers that, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger, and a variety of other game series, with exceptions explained in the interview below. The project is home to 32 pieces of Featured material and 104 Good and A-class articles.
  • News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation's new plans announced
    Last week the Wikimedia Foundation released its annual plan for July 2013 to June 2014. It provides a surprisingly frank view—of past achievements and failures, and future goals and risks—that could be afforded only by a non-profit that is confident and beholden to no commercial or political interests.
  • Featured content: Documents and sports
    Four articles, five lists, and sixteen pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.

WP:NAMB

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Thank you for your recent messages regarding dab hatnotes and the WP:NAMB guideline. According to the criterion you have given, WP:NAMB should not be applied to articles about ambiguous song titles. I would like to explain why I believe you are mistaken.

The reason that I Want You Back (Bananarama song) does not need a hatnote is that a reader who is following links within Wikipedia would not have ended up at I Want You Back (Bananarama song) if one were looking for another song called "I Want You Back", since I Want You Back does not redirect there. The WP:NAMB exception — a hatnote may still be appropriate when even a more specific name is still ambiguous — does not apply here. The reason Matt Smith (comics) needs a dab hatnote is that a reader who is following links within Wikipedia could end up at Matt Smith (comics) if they were looking for Matt Smith (illustrator), as the latter illustrates comics. For example, they might reasonably type Matt Smith (comics) into the search box if they are more familiar with his work on comics than on other media.

However, the search term I Want You Back (Bananarama song) can only refer to one article. To be explicit:

  • a reader who is following links within Wikipedia would not have ended up at "I Want You Back" (Bananarama song) if one were looking for "I Want You Back" (Hoodoo Gurus song)
  • a reader who is following links within Wikipedia would not have ended up at "I Want You Back" (Bananarama song) if one were looking for "I Want You Back" (Melanie B song)
  • a reader who is following links within Wikipedia would not have ended up at "I Want You Back" (Bananarama song) if one were looking for "I Want You Back" ('N Sync song)
  • a reader who is following links within Wikipedia would not have ended up at "I Want You Back" (Bananarama song) if one were looking for "I Want You Back" (Pure Soul song)
  • a reader who is following links within Wikipedia would not have ended up at "I Want You Back" (Bananarama song) if one were looking for "I Want You Back" (Secret song)

However, a reader who is following links within Wikipedia could end up at I Want You Back if one were looking for I Want You Back (Bananarama song), which is why I Want You Back needs a dab hatnote.

I hope this is helpful — Labalius (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

As experienced editors, you and I know that hovering over a link will reveal a hidden disambiguation term. However, less experienced readers and every reader on a mobile device will see only "I Want You Back" with no way to distinguish it from any of the other 6 songs with articles. If the link were routinely presented (against the MOS) as "I Want You Back (Bananarama song)" then WP:NAMB would not be a factor but it's not. With only a link to "I Want You Back", a reader should be able to easily discover the article they're actually seeking if they find themselves on the Bananarama song article. That's why we have hatnotes. Also, what benefit is created for readers by removing a hatnote pointing to disambiguation? None that I can see. - Dravecky (talk) 19:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 July 2013

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
  • In the media: Wikipedia flamewars
    The Washington Post reported Tuesday on the most controversial articles on various language Wikipedias as determined by a cross-continental research group.
  • WikiProject report: WikiProject Religion
    This week, the Signpost delved into the vast and complex areas of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that make up religion. WikiProject Religion has been around since 2005 and has a complex scope, in that it only takes articles that deal with religion in a non-sectarian sense, along with any articles that do not have a dedicated daughter project.
  • News and notes: Wikivoyage turns ten, but where to now?; Wikipedia Zero expands into India
    Contributors to Wikivoyage, the sister project adopted by the Wikimedia Foundation last year, are celebrating their 10th anniversary this week. ... The Wikimedia Foundation has announced via press release that it has partnered with Aircel to provide free mobile access to Wikipedia.
  • Traffic report: Gleeless
    Death hangs over the top 10 this week, as tragic deaths both past and present continued to cast their pall over an already troubled world. The death of Corey Monteith led to a spike in interest in the man himself, his girlfriend and co-star Lea Michele, and the show that made them both famous, Glee.
  • Featured content: Engineering and the arts
    Twelve articles, seven lists, and eight pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
  • Arbitration report: Infoboxes case opens
    The case Infoboxes was opened. The evidence phase continues in Kiefer.Wolfowitz and Ironholds. Voting on the proposed decision continues in the Tea Party movement case.
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