Doyoureadmeok

Your submission at Articles for creation: Crimeapple (January 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Dan arndt were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Fails WP:MUSICBIO - YouTube and Twitter are not acceptable or reliable sources.

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Dan arndt (talk) 01:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Crimeapple (February 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

I don't see any improvement in making this notable or meeting WP:MUSICBIO

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AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:04, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, Doyoureadmeok. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:05, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello there. Thanks for your message! However I do not have a relationship with said artist, or know them. I’m simply a fan making a page.

My last submission had issues with references— is there any way this can be reviewed? I spent quite some time updating them, finding more reliable sources.

Thanks Doyoureadmeok (talk) 01:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

March 2023

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Soul Assassins, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 20:32, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your message.

Would you please point out the promotional or advertising material posted under that page? To my knowledge this has not been done, and certainly has not been done deliberately. Doyoureadmeok (talk) 20:37, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

At Soul Assassins you tried to redefine the topic but you were lacking any WP:SECONDARY sources supporting the change. At DJ Muggs you did the same thing but you also added WP:PEACOCK wording. You called him a "longstanding, influential and sometimes elusive producer" who was responsible for the "trademark" sound of Cypress Hill, and for the "conceptual" approach taken by other artists. None of this stuff was remotely supported by uninvolved third party sources. It's obvious you are trying to sell something. Binksternet (talk) 23:25, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

OK, that's fine and duly noted, re: sources.

However for the record, I'm just a fan, sharing information about a producer that I'm passionate about. I have no idea what I'd be tying to sell by calling someone who has been influential to hip-hop, 'influential', but I understand it's not impartial— fine. Yet, *all* of my edits were deleted, some of which were actual, factual information (I.e. Soul Assassins being a clothing label and record label, which they are). Plus Soul Assassins are not a marketing brand, so the information that replaced my edits are incorrect. All of DJ Muggs releases for the past seven years have been via his own record label, Soul Assassins, so how can this not be on his own Wikipedia page? Seems bizarre to me. Soul Assassins is so much more than a 'hip hop project'. https://soulassassins.com

This all seems very harsh— I understand and respect that you have a job to do, but a lot of very unfair assumptions have been made here. In any case, it's fine, it's done and it's a lesson learned about Wikipedia editing. Doyoureadmeok (talk) 23:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

The purpose of Wikipedia is to summarize the literature about every important topic. If the literature doesn't talk about Soul Assassins as a brand the way I believe you've been paid to represent it, then Wikipedia should not be used to fill in the missing information. If the media aren't paying attention to it, then the information is not important enough for Wikipedia.

As in every article on Wikipedia, WP:SECONDARY sources should be summarized to tell the story. Try reading AV Club or MTV – those are good sources, and they are a strong indication of what the media thinks. Don't make up your own promotional text and put it in the encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 01:20, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 02:01, 12 July 2023 (UTC)