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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4NnI_sXZpw GOAT Bones231012 (talk) 15:38, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi Cass. Sorry about all this, not least as Truthseeker is clearly a sockpuppet. Thanks for everything you have done and please, please continue to do it. All the sanctimonious editors who have criticised you wouldn't last five minutes editing in your space. If you leave, we'll be up shit creek without a paddle. NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

NEDOCHAN, I know that you are trying to be supportive of a friend here. I also consider Cassiopeia a friend, since we worked together at CVUA, and would also hope that they do not stop editing over this affair. Sometimes being a good friend to someone is not necessarily the same thing as telling them that they are right, and everyone else is wrong. I would encourage you to read User:Barkeep49/Friends don't let friends get sanctioned, which discusses situations like this. Sometimes being a good friend to someone means taking them to one side and letting them know that what they're doing isn't appropriate. You complain about 'sanctimonious editors' who apparently wouldn't last five minutes editing MMA articles (I don't know how you come to that conclusion by the way, I don't know how familiar you with what I do but I assure you that a lot of the abuse I deal with in my 'wiki day job' at SPI is not a barrel of laughs), but those editors are simply telling it how it is. None of us - not me, not you, not Cass - are permitted to make up our own rules because we find things difficult. I can't ignore elements of the CU policy because I am dealing with a particularly problematic LTA; similarly, Wikiproject MMA members cannot ignore the consensus at RSN regarding Sherdog, and the sourcing requirements of the BLP policy, because you find it convenient to standardize on a particular source to reduce the number of disagreements about sourcing. That's just how it is, all those 'sanctimonious editors' are correct, and for as long as experienced editors in this subject area spread misinformation about our sourcing policies, unfortunate blocks like this one will continue to be necessary. Girth Summit (blether) 14:24, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
Unless I'm missing something, Girth, I think I'm allowed to write what I want on Cass's page (unless it's abusive or a personal attack). I stand by my opinion and I heartily reject your own as regards the necessity of the block. If Cass leaves, all hell will break loose on MMA pages, and I'm far more worried about that than anything you or any other editor or admin has to say. NEDOCHAN (talk) 16:35, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
I have not said that you are not allowed to say what you like on Cass's page. I think that I am allowed to do the same, even if that means disagreeing with you.
As I said, I hope that Cass has not decided to leave the project; I keenly hope that they continue to edit. I also hope that they do not repeat the actions that led to the block, and I would be very willing to support them in understanding how to avoid a recurrence in the future. I have seen several very good patrollers lose sight of the rules we have to abide by over time, get blocked, and walk away in frustration - I hope that will not happen in this case. This is what I'm trying (and apparently failing) to get across to you: I do not want you, or Cass, or any good faith contributor to be blocked, but admins will not stand by and watch someone edit war to include dubiously sourced content on a BLP. I'm not trying to threaten you - I'm trying to warmly encourage you, and Cass, and everyone else with an interest in the subject area to continue editing, but to do so in a manner that complies with the relevant policies. You can ignore that if you want, but you have just seen what ignoring it leads to. Girth Summit (blether) 17:06, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

Question MF Boxing / Profesional boxing

Hi Cassiopeia,

I have been in a discusion about the page of Anthony Taylor (fighter) about the boxing record and Misfits Boxing bouts.

According to boxrec it is its own category making his record quite complicated. For MF Pro while Sherdog lists them as Exhibition Boxing.

These are 2 very good record holders of boxing matches and according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Boxing/MOSGuidelines its best to follow boxrec.

One of the accounts that reverted my edit has been banned MoonknightPP34 i have opened dialoge with user GhaziTwaissi but now its been reversed again by a brand new account named MasterChief280.

Is there a proper way i can discus this. Am i in the right or wrong?

A lot of people take wikipedia as truth and i have been noticing that people confuse MF Boxing with pro boxing. Its boxing with custom rules because most of them dont have a boxing history. Just very few matches are actually sanctioned by a commision thats able to and all of this is listed inside Boxrec. Panini03 (talk) 10:23, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Panini03 Good day. I believe you meant Tapology rather than Sherdog in your previous link. On Wikipedia, MMA fighters’ records are sourced from Sherdog, while boxing records are based on Boxrec. It is appropriate to start a discussion about the subject on the article’s talk page to avoid violating the three-revert rule (WP:3RR), which can result in being banned from editing. Sometimes, editors are new and may not understand established norms, or they may fail to provide reliable sources for their edits, often relying solely on personal opinions instead of verifiable references. Regards. Cassiopeia talk 08:31, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
In this case im the new one. But i just notice the error but a lot of influencer boxing pages maintain it. Generarly these are managed by the same people i think.
I have opened a conversation on the talk page of KSI and also opened a talk with someone who reverted my edit. I will try to get my point across and if i reach a agreement i wanna change it on other influencer boxers pages as well. If i dont i wont do this of course. Is there anyway i could get more attention on this talk page?
i also think user:MasterChief280 is a sockpuppet of User:MoonknightPP34 since their editing history is similar.
I did get reverted 3 times by now but 1 of my reverted edits was a sockpuppet and one more revert of what i think is another sockpuppet of the same user.
Is there any way where i can report this. Lil Tjay discography and the Anthony Taylor (fighter) are 2 pages i find examples on.
Thank you for the help Panini03 (talk) 09:19, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Panini03
Three things:
I am not sure how active or current WikiProject Boxing is compared to WikiProject MMA, but you can always ask experienced Wikipedia editors for help or clarification.
2. On Wikipedia, verification with independent, reliable sources is a core policy. If in doubt, refer to this crucial guideline.
3. I did a quick check on the two editors you mentioned and found that they have edited some similar pages. Editor YeetaSkeeta is a sockpuppet of Moonknight PP34, among others; you can review their contribution log and talk pages for context. To report sockpuppetry, use Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations and follow the instructions. For example, see the case: here. Regards. Cassiopeia talk 09:56, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Panini03 Please use the "vertical" format and NOT horizontal format for the infobox. Cassiopeia talk 09:57, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Sorry i corrected the infobox.
I will check out both WikiProject Boxing and MMA i have used the Boxing page as extra argumentation for the change in records already but never asked them for help.
I always try to follow rule 2 to the best and wont change anything unless i can prove it to be different.
I will report the sockpuppet to the page.
Thank you for your help Panini03 (talk) 11:50, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Panini03 Good day. Good day. I just wanted to let you know that WikiProject Boxing can be another place to go if you need help with boxing-related questions. Of course, I’ll be happy to assist you anytime you need help. I understand you successfully reported the editor to SPI. I believe they may return as a sock and edit the same pages in a similar style, so please keep an eye on those familiar pages. Thank you very much for your help and contributions. Stay safe and all the best. Cassiopeia talk 00:37, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Hey Cassipeia,
I have asked them for help but yet to get a response. I did help them out with a dispute about Naoya Inoue. Hopefully i wil get some help for them otherwise i might ask somewhere else.
Now the discusion is just at a stand still i got a Opposed by 3 people but 2 of those seem very untrusted and the 1 that is doesnt respond anymore. Most of the time he refers that it was discused last year as well but it seems people noting out that its not a pro boxing match and him saying its more understandable for the general public.
I think User:GhaziTwaissi might be using sock puppets as well in KSI Archive of last year he says "to not confused the general public" and on the new talk i opened i got voted out by 2 inactive accounts saying its confusing for the general public.
I dont actually have evidence outside this or anything to build a case on so i won't report it.
But User:YeetaSkeeta and User:AliM7mdd who also are known sockpuppet users have a big history of using sockpuppets as well in the KSI talk page. They all seem to be involved around Youtube boxing articles.
A couple people have said they should fix the records but these accounts generally seem to block it.
Im considering changing the record i a few days and just see the outcome.
Thank you for the advice and help. I have been keeping watch at the articles, im fairly new to wikipedia so i dont try to edit too much and just maintain the few pages i have been working on or help out with updating information. Have a good day! Panini03 (talk) 13:20, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Panini03 Thank you for helping. Take care. Cassiopeia talk 23:22, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
The issue has been resolved and we reached a agreement thanks to your help and advice. Thank you. Panini03 (talk) 14:08, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

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If your in visual editing mode you can click on cite and it wil generate most for you automaticly. After this you can click on the citation and either edit it in visual mode or in source. Panini03 (talk) 13:37, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

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If you edit in source you will find "| speakers = {sigfig|328,740|2}" it around the top surounded by the other values of the info box.
But please do add a source because the current number does seem sourced. Panini03 (talk) 07:55, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

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What do you wanna know. Cassiopedia has been inactive but im tryna help as much as i can. Panini03 (talk) 10:42, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hello,how do I make an infobox? --Illia2 (talk) 17:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Here you can find a lot of information and templates of info boxes Wikipedia:List of infoboxes.
Just copy a template add it into the top of the source.
I recommend looking at some other pages who use info boxes as well for example. Panini03 (talk) 10:41, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

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