... that in some versions of the musical poem When the shepherd lost his sheep, the shepherd loses his flock as punishment for violating pastoral taboos, such as visiting a lover?
Source: Habenicht (1968). p.236: "Ciobanului îi erau astfel interzise raporturile sexuale; era oprit pînă şi de la participarea la jocul satului. Femeia a fost oprită să păşească la stînă."; p.237: "Pierderea oilor este aici explicată prin plecarea ciobanului de la stînă în sat, unde a dormit, probabil, la vreo iubită."
ALT1: ... that a version of the Romanian folk poem When the shepherd lost his sheep was recorded in 1986 on a piece of birch bark used as a musical instrument? Source: Bogos, Procopie (1990a). "Молдавский музыкальный фольклор" [Moldavian musical folklore]. melody.su (in Russian) https://melody.su/catalog/folklore/64790/; see also Nechiforeac, Teodor & Scorpan 2009, p. 128.: "Cînd ciobanul şi-a pierdut oile: legendă / interp. Procopie Bogos, coajă de mesteacăn (s. Buţeni)."
Not a full review, but this won't be able to proceed until a QPQ is provided. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:44, 9 June 2026 (UTC) QPQ now provided. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:12, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
Full review needed now that QPQ has been provided. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
Overall: I actually consider hook ALT1 to be more interesting, but I cannot verify it based on the sources given. The melody.su link given does not mention anything about it based on my Google Translate reading, and I can't access the second source to check. Could you provide a quotation which verifies it? ―Howard • 🌽33 20:13, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
Yes, sure. The second source can be found on the page: https://repository.amtap.md/items/9fd0be57-d5c7-458a-84d4-7d55bb6f3918. It has disk description on the p.128 and adds the "instrument": 8. Cînd ciobanul şi-a pierdut oile: legendă / interp. Procopie Bogos, coajă de mesteacăn (s. Buţeni). –Iurii.s (talk) 07:39, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
@Iurii.s: Furthermore if we are going to run ALT1 it should be rewritten so that it doesn't imply a piece of birch bark was used to record the music. How does "...that a version of the Romanian folk poem When the shepherd lost his sheep using a piece of birch bark as a musical instrument was recorded in 1986" sound to you? ―Howard • 🌽33 10:35, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
Sounds OK to me. Thanks. -Iurii.s (talk) 10:40, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
: pass for modified hook ALT1. ―Howard • 🌽33 10:54, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
Not a full review, but this won't be able to proceed until a QPQ is provided. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:44, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
Full review needed now that QPQ has been provided. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
I actually consider hook ALT1 to be more interesting, but I cannot verify it based on the sources given. The melody.su link given does not mention anything about it based on my Google Translate reading, and I can't access the second source to check. Could you provide a quotation which verifies it? ―Howard • 🌽33 20:13, 27 June 2026 (UTC)