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Latest comment: 4 years ago16 comments6 people in discussion
About the GQ source[1] persistently used to back a relationship between Zendaya and Tom Holland: It makes no direct mention that the two are together and it's considered WP:SYNTH to make any assumption that they are thru that source. Example: And so it was this summer [2021], when pictures emerged in the tabloid press of Holland and Zendaya in a car in L.A., kissing. It makes mention that tabloids are reporting this, clearly gossip fodder and tabloids are usually unreliable sources. Another: (Page Six: "Zendaya, Tom Holland finally confirm they’re dating with steamy car makeout." As if they had any choice.) Clearly taken from Page Six, which is a New York Post publication, and an unreliable source per WP:RSP. And one more: Holland's and Zendaya's fans had long obsessed over whether the pair were together (“tom holland and zendaya flirting for 8 minutes straight”: 1.5 million views). Nothing more than speculation and seeing it from the fans' perspective.
This is also a matter of the two (Holland, at least, going further into the paragraph I've been quoting from) wanting to keep this private, and so should we. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:49, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
I agree. Also the interview was mostly from Holland and that part is WP:ABOUTSELF where we might use what he says in his own article but not in articles about other people. Still they both seem to want to keep whatever sort of relationship they have private and it is mostly fan speculation as to whether or not it is long term romantic. Nothing close to supporting a domestic partnership type relationship. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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I see, im trying to add a link to this discussion and it keeps erroring. I thought it was due to the extended protection status. I apologize. I am unsure as to why Im not able to include the link. Snarevox (talk) 14:00, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, Im trying to post the link about Tom Holland's desire to become a father as I feel it is relevant to this discussion. I am still learning. Here is the link:
@Snarevox: How is it relevant? The source does mention that Holland is Zendaya's boyfriend, and while Holland is wanting to start a family, he isn't saying whether it will include Zendaya. This is one reason why we need to be very careful about including anything about relationships, or future plans stemming from them, in a BLP article, especially if they're in the just dating phase - they may not last. Wikipedia is not a tabloid. Such information needs to be published in multiple, reliable, independent, high quality sources per WP:BLP policies. Even then, we should avoid reporting about this at the current stage. Their relationship may become more notable if they become engaged, and they make that public for high quality sources to report. (Distinguishing this from tabloids taking pictures of them together, even with their consent, when they want to keep it on the down low.) MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
no offence but you're being a bit goofy. Almost every celebrity on wikipedia has who they are dating in their personal life section even if they are not engaged. I doubt all of them came right out to say "this is my boyfriend." Heck Tom Holland's page says he is dating Zendaya lmao. 216.181.10.71 (talk) 05:53, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
i dont know..i guess if i were to bring up wanting to start a family while im sitting next to my girlfriend, i would hope for my own sake that its well implied that she would be the second party involved and to be sure i would never bring such a thing up in her company if i intended it to be with anyone else...i dont know maybe im just weird. i didnt say the information was grounds to run with the story and publish a page, i simply said i thought it was relevant to the discussion. because it kinda is. sorry if i went afoul of some sacred etiquette. i was just sharing something that hadnt been mentioned, and i do understand the need for multiple sources but if someone says something in an on camera interview, i feel like it should count for something a bit greater than hearsay. Snarevox (talk) 19:45, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
@Snarevox: Yes, it's because you added spaces. Though what people do use might not technically be valid HTML, the way people indent on talk pages is to preface their line with one or more colons(:). Adding a leading space to a line will style it like that--sort of like preformatting except it doesn't escape wiki markup in other ways. It's a pretty basic thing to know about wikitext if in part because it's the first mistake someone might make with wikitext that produces a somewhat baffling effect where the cause isn't immediately obvious. To the content of your messages, it sounds like the rationales you're bringing forth here are original research; you're making assumptions and drawing conclusions based on what you think sources are implying versus what they actually say. (This isn't an admonishment so much as linking you with some information that might make clear why that sort of thing might not be as relevant as it seems in this discussion. :P) - Purplewowies (talk) 00:37, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
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change the mentioning of her appearances in "Spiderman Homecoming and its sequels" in the introduction to "the MCU Spiderman Trilogy", with the option of listing the films afterwards at the editor's discretion. Deathbydeathstroke (talk) 00:53, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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I've come across this a few times now, and have reverted them all. WP:SDDATES says: The inclusion of a date or date range is encouraged where it would improve the short description as a disambiguation, or enhance it as a descriptive annotation.(emphasis mine) I don't see the birth year inclusion as a need to disambiguate this actress in Wikipedia, or to further describe her, but I might not be seeing something (reply below if that's the case). Also, I don't know how commonplace adding the birth year for a living person is ... though checking a small sample of names shows it appears not to be. I think it's more appropriate to add dates when it comes to those no longer living (their lifespan), though I'm not sure consensus is strong on either of these points. It should also be noted that the short description is intended to be brief in describing the subject of an article, and it shouldn't exceed 40 characters per WP:SDLENGTH (though I'm thinking a lot of articles' short descriptions may not be following this guideline). MPFitz1968 (talk) 20:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
The key point from the guideline is "Editor discretion is always needed, and in some cases there will be more important information than dating to be included within the recommended 40 or so characters, but if space is available such dates are encouraged." I see no reason to not include this here as this is sourced in the article, part of the intro description defining her and is something that they seem to encourage for context for bio articles. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:33, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Spider-Man
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This discussion is going nowhere. The film article is doing it wrong. This article is not. It has already been explained several times to the OP here that, although wrong, the current consensus at the film article has "from" capitalized. They refuse to or cannot understand that. It should be fixed, but the local consensus there does not affect this or other articles linking to the film article. Amaury • 09:28, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
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Those other articles don't conform to MOS:CT, this one does. The main article is named that way due to a lack of consensus to move it to the correct location, it sets no precedent to override the manual of style of any other article. The other articles that do it wrong should be fixed, not this one broken to comply to that. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:02, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Then you were in the minority then. If the majority agreed on the films title and all the articles related to it, then it should be here. Your sole opinion doesn’t agree with the consensus that others have already decided. Then you’re wrong if you’re not supporting as the others are. Hydro-Molecular Dude (talk) 06:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Doesn't matter, local consensus does not override the manual of style. Also the majority only agreed on the title of that particular article. It didn't go beyond that although people mistakenly believe it does. WP:NOTBROKEN works. The redirect at the correct capitalization is listed as an alternative capitalization, there is no reason to not do it correctly. Geraldo Perez (talk) 07:15, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
It’s not correct though. By your logic, then why don’t you go out and fix every article to your preferred style. Why haven’t you don’t it? Because it will get reverted because it’s not correct. Hydro-Molecular Dude (talk) 07:42, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
It is not my preferred style, it is Wikipedia's style. We are all expected to follow it. Exception is if there is a discussion and a consensus for a particularly article to go against it but that only applies to that article, nowhere else. If you want to go against the MOS for this article, get a consensus on this talk page to do do, otherwise the manual of style applies as written, what happens on other articles is irrelevant. Geraldo Perez (talk) 07:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
We’ll you did say that the articles who do it wrong should be fixed. You’re also cherry picking, how is this following CT when the others aren’t, shouldn’t it be the same since it’s the same movie? But aside from that. The only consensus I should be getting from is you since you’re the only defending the inaccurate title. Im on the side of the movies article title, which you are against. The majority already agreed on this, and you are on the minority. Hydro-Molecular Dude (talk) 08:16, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
It is the same movie, the stylization of the title is a manual of style issue. Wikipedia's manual of style is being followed in this article. That is all that matters. Also this is an actor bio article. Look up her credits on IMDb. Geraldo Perez (talk) 08:56, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
The only one who says it’s being followed is you. Again I’m with the majority here and is saying that is wrong. You are in the minority here, and if you want it change, change it. Otherwise, this is still inaccurate. Regardless of the policy since the majority already agreed that the title should be capitalized. Hydro-Molecular Dude (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Not just me for this article. Still, to be persuasive, you need a policy based reason to go against the manual of style. You haven't given one. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:41, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Again, I’m just going on based what the consensus was for the title. You are still in the minority, you are the one who’s against what was already decided by the majority. Hydro-Molecular Dude (talk) 00:14, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
The current consensus at the film article is wrong, but it's the consensus there and has no effect on this or other articles linking to the film article, as per WP:LOCALCONSENSUS and MOS:CAPS/MOS:CT. The film article should be moved. This article and others are doing it right. The film article is doing it wrong. It's as simple as that. It's time to drop the stick and move on. Amaury • 00:45, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Hes the one who made this a big deal. Over a stupid letter that every article has it the right way. Except this one. I can drop it, but only if the majority changes it’s position. Until then, this is wrong. Hydro-Molecular Dude (talk) 01:29, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
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should they match?
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just noticed tom hollands page has a blurb about his relationship with zendaya, but zendayas page doesnt say anything similar. just wondering if both pages should sorta match or reflect whats said in one about the other? Snarevox (talk) 07:43, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Producer
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People are adding producer as an occupation mostly based on her one vanity producer credit in Malcolm & Marie. While she did have some input to the creative parts of the film, she didn't get Producers Guild of America §The Producers Mark (p.g.a.) that is awarded to the producers on a project the Guild determines actually did the real production work. Actors get producer credits to show they are important to the project, not to indication they actually did production. This applies to her other producer type TV credits as well. This is just a vanity credit given to important people to keep them happy, it is not a task she actually did, just an acting credit enhancement. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 02:08, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
First Name Only
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The article seems to use her first name exlusively. That's disrespectful in itself. I know that she uses her first name in her career, but the article should make that very clear. --84.132.144.110 (talk) 19:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
There is plenty of reason to do so, definitely more reason than there was for the creation of Zendaya discography. She has starred in several more films and television shows than she has produced and recorded albums, and has even made a selection of music videos and other media appearances. I think thats a good enough reason, don't you? I mean, you do seem to be quite an expert at this.
Reasons, reasons, reasons. I'm happy to add an article for her filmography, like I have tried to do before, I'm just quite sure you'll revert it again, even though I've given reason to do so. Samuelloveslennonstella (talk) 06:26, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Oppose None of those reason reflect any of the split justifications in WP:WHENSPLIT either for content or size of article. No need for a content split when the subject is well within the scope of the article and size isn't an issue. Added maintenance effort for another article that is not needed. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:39, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Oppose at this current time, the section doesn't need a split at its or the articles current size. Maybe in several years it might need a relook, but for now it fits here comfortably. WikiVirusC(talk)23:59, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Oppose: Section's not big enough for it to be necessary. This kind of split should be reserved for article size concerns rather than notability. Keeping these things together in one page is more convenient for readers until a section becomes so large that it becomes inconvenient. QuietHere (talk) 15:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Comment: I will add to the record that the OP attempted to split the said section of the article into Zendaya videography , roughly 24 hours ago. As I can see right now, there is absolutely no consensus for this action. Please keep an eye out for any future splits by this editor, as if this continues, we may need to look into sanctions, including WP:ANI. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:56, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Latest comment: 3 years ago8 comments5 people in discussion
I know this has been added and rejected a few times but Zendaya posted a photo with Tom Holland on her instagram today that seems to confirm a relationship to me. Every media outlet refers to him as her boyfriend. I was thinking of adding "Zendaya is in a relationship with, British actor and Spider-man co-star Tom Holland"
I think it meets the requirements of being significant now with sources that are not the normal gossip about transient dating partners of celebrities which is mostly what WP:GOSSIP wants us to avoid. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:33, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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The website and the link listed on the page has expired. I am unable to determine if she has another website, but in any case I am locked out from editing. Someone who is not locked out should remove the name of the website and the link. 2601:41:200:5260:4169:D1DD:7DCA:1498 (talk) 01:16, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Please change: "Her father is African-American, with roots in Arkansas; her mother has German and Scottish ancestry." to "Her father is African-American with Nigerian ancestry; her mother has German and Scottish ancestry."
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Zendaya father is a black American man with roots from Arkansas. He was born and raised in Arkansas and is the grandchild of sharecroppers. It’s inaccurate to say he is African American with “Nigerian” ancestry, when it’s a better and more legitimate way of describing him. Her father was also born Samuel David Coleman. Here is a link to factual info about his actual background https://www.yournextshoes.com/kazembe-ajamu-coleman/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msfixthisshitup (talk • contribs) 22:56, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Zendaya’s father background
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Zendaya’s father is a black American man with roots from Arkansas. He was born and raised in Arkansas and is the grandchild of SHARECROPPERS. It’s simply incorrect to substitute his real Arkansas roots for having “Nigerian”ancestry. Zendaya’s father was also born Samuel David Coleman before he changed his name after taking a dna ancestry test and seeing he had ancestry that could be traced back to multiple different places including Nigeria, Iceland, and Macedonia. Link to Zendaya dad being from Arkansas and her visiting her cousins there https://www.yournextshoes.com/kazembe-ajamu-coleman/
Another link to his sharecropper roots https://hellobeautiful.com/2794456/zendaya-explores-her-roots-immigrant-heritage-month/amp/Msfixthisshitup (talk) 23:10, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Correct Zendaya’s dad background
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Zendaya’s father is black American. He was born Samuel David Coleman in Arkansas, USA. The link and story people use to say her father has “Nigerian” ancestry also mentions other places as well. He took a dna ancestry test and traced his ancestry back to multiple different places. “Between her German mother and her father, whose family roots stretch from Nigeria to Iceland and Macedonia, Zendaya Maree Stoermer Coleman says she's always been proud of her heritage, which comes spelled right out in her own multicultural name”. Link to article https://www.mic.com/articles/120806/zendaya-s-family-tree-is-a-reminder-most-americans-have-something-in-commonMsfixthisshitup (talk) 23:16, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Zendaya’s dad background
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This is the best most legitimate article that summarizes everything that’s been said about Zendaya’s father and explains things in his own words. There is suppose to be a video that isn't available with the article that Zendaya and her parents made about their backgrounds & the article I have explains what he said in the video https://www.entitymag.com/zendaya-parents-stoermer-coleman/ Zendaya father is the grandson and son of sharecroppers. Read the article and correct the information on this wiki article to make it more factual, instead of spreading misinformation. 204.116.70.84 (talk) 23:49, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Challengers character
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Just wanted to let you know Zendaya's character's last name is set as Donaldson in the filmography section when it is Duncan. I can't edit it so if anyone who can sees this, it might be a mistake you want to fix 2607:FB91:BD8F:D735:AC39:82F7:82B6:32BF (talk) 22:07, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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Why is there such a chronological chaos in the paragraph "Philanthropy and activism"? I'm surfing on a tablet, not the best for editing it, otherwise I would habe brought that confusing stuff quickly into chronological order. 2001:9E8:A5EB:5A00:B434:C41E:C975:BE78 (talk) 02:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
I'm a little late to this party, but decided to take a look at the section. Some information has been removed since this thread was opened – which has helped to simplify the section – but I agree that there is a little 'chronological chaos'.
To me, it seems the three paragraphs address different areas of Zendaya's philantropic interests. The first paragraph is quite general, about charities she supports; the second is about schools, and the third is about sociopolitical causes. Each paragraph proceeds chronologically, grouping together related campaigns/streaks of philanthropic interest.
I would propose that we formally group these paragraphs under subheadings for clarity.
Currently, the final two sentences (regarding Mean Stinks and Stomp Out Bullying) seem to be tacked onto the more politically-focused paragraph, and don't belong. I suppose they'd be better suited to the first paragraph. Littimer (talk) 01:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Zendaya’s personal life should mirror exactly what Tom’s says. It doesn’t make since to not have her long term partner listed. Also delete November 2021. Toms is listed as 2021 in general which is more accurate. November was just when the gq article released of them discussing the privacy breach. Not the day their relationship started. Not sure why Zendaya’s personal life is inaccurate and doesn’t match her partners. Wadirum2410 (talk) 17:21, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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First Name Repetition Redux
Here we go with the “mononymously known as” nonsense, which should have been erased since the first time I submitted this change almost four years prior.
Said phrasing must be removed from leading paragraph again, not unlike Drake and Adele.
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Per MOS:COLON "When a colon is being used as a separator in an article title, section heading, or list item, editors may choose whether to capitalize what follows, taking into consideration the existing practice and consistency with related articles." See other headers in this article for existing consensus here, and other bio articles where colon used as a separator. For example featured article Lady Gaga for a related article that passed FA review. Lower case after the year range in header that is terminated with a colon, is not appropriate. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
This article has had those headers that way since at least March 3, 2018 6 years ago and has been stable since then using a cap after the colon in the headers. There is no reason to change and the colon terminated year range is generally treated as a separate header item in most articles it is used in. We would need consensus to change to go against how the article currently is and against standard practice in other articles. I, of course, oppose changing this. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
I've been editing here since 2005, and it's long been the case--long before Zendaya even became a public figure -- that only the first word and proper nouns in a heading are capitalized. That follows sentence case, as descrribed at MOS:COLON, which is explicitly the type of casing called for by both WP:SECTIONHEAD and MOS:SENTENCECAPS. It's been the guideline I've been following for many years -- close to two decades, really --- and this is the first time I've ever seen anyone challenge it. Articles should exhibit a sense of consistency, and to not follow this guideline in this one article is not reasonable. Nightscream (talk) 17:14, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Read the rest of MOS:COLON. There are two subheadings in the career section of this article that give date ranges and you only changed the one. That is inconsistent even in this one article and it is jarring to see that inconsistency in the TOC. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Zendaya's Family
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Zendaya's Family Tree
The grandparents on Zendaya's father's side are Mildred Newton (1928 - ) and Robert Lee Coleman (12 November 1921 - 15 March 2013). The grandparents on her mother's side are Daphne Carol Whitelaw (1939 - ) and Phillip Hilary Stoermer (July 25, 1940 - 2006).
Zendaya has three half brothers (Samuel Coleman, Julien Coleman (aka "EZ") and Austin Coleman) and four half sisters (Latonja Coleman, Katianna Coleman ("Kizzi"), Kaylee Coleman and AnnaBella Coleman) on her father's side.
Samuel Coleman has two kids (a boy (Sam) and a girl). Julien Coleman and his wife Sonja have three children (Ezenia (aka “Zink”) born on March 26, 1997, "EJ" born in 2008 and Berkeley born on March 22, 2011). Katianna Coleman her husband Jason have three children (Isys, Imani born on March 6 and Marley born in 2016. This makes a total of 9 known nephews.
Their being engaged is noted in the article. That doesn't make them spouses or domestic partners - engaged just means planning to get married, nothing more. They will become spouses when they get married. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:20, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
there is a lot of information out there that implies they are lving together and potentially own one property together, which by definition of domestic partnership, means they are partners, regardless of an engagement. 2001:8003:5849:2A00:1DCF:FC20:184B:F2FD (talk) 02:07, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
They live together in properties individually owned by both of them. Also Selena Gomez' infobox has Benny Blanco – her fiancé – listed as her partner with a note that they're engaged, this is formatting that appears on multiple people's Wikipedia pages – there is no legitimate reason for Tom and Zendaya not to be in each other's. Jt65478 (talk) 10:40, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Other articles doing it wrong set no precedence over this one. Do not continue to make disruptive edits. At this time, there is no consensus for this change. Amaury • 11:33, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
That's fine if that's an actual rule, but it seems to be this is the only page where it is being enforced which is why I questioned it. It is not intentional disruption.
However – if the argument is 'there is no evidence they live together', I can point to the most recent interview Tom did (published last month) where he makes explicit reference to 'our house in LA'. I do not know the rule as to what is considered a high enough standard of proof, but this is a clear indication from him that they do live together / consider their individually owned properties theirs.
See template:Infobox person/doc for what goes in infobox. Everything in the infobox must be supported by well-sourced article content. Basically stated in the article with references before it goes in infobox. The reason domestic partner is in the infobox is for the situations when people generally can't or won't get married but otherwise live and behave as a married couple. As for other articles not following the instructions, they need to be fixed. Current info is they are engaged, not married and are not domestic partners. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:28, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for clarifying. Outside of this established parameter, it does seem like there's perhaps room for a formal adjustment – it seems somewhat silly that someone's domestic partner can be deemed important enough to feature in their info box but their fiancé cannot until they reach the status of spouse.
This is because domestic partner is considered at the same level of relationship as being a married and just as important. Engaged is planning to get married. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:22, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
Newer photo
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This photo of Zendaya is much more recent than the one that is currently on her page.
I believe that Zendaya's profile image is very much due for an update. This picture, in my opinion is even better than the current one, as it features her front-on, facing the camera, in a much newer tone, and is better framed for her face overall.
I attempted to [edit and add the newer image], but Amaury reverted it, saying it needs a "consensus", so let's discuss and come up with one.
She's old enough that her appearance hasn't changed significantly since 2019. I like the original pro photo as it is much sharper, better contrast and better posed. New one would be fine if that was all we had but I think the original is better. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
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As none of the actor's roles have been oficially confrimed and are curentally based on leaked photos/speculation, I am going to change Zendaya's role from "Athena" to "TBA". It can be edited once roles are officially announced. CHEEZEBRINGER (talk) 01:35, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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Hello, everyone. I am proposing to change the description of Zendaya's father's background. I am seeking feedback, essentially a consensus. It currently states that “Zendaya's father is African-American with Nigerian ancestry”, but this can and often is easily misinterpreted and does not truly reflect his background. Zendaya's father is Black American and from Arkansas. He stated that he is a descendant of sharecroppers. He changed his name after taking a DNA ancestry test, which showed genetic ancestry from Nigeria, Macedonia, and Iceland(especially on his father’s side). Zendaya's father is not from Nigeria or has any family lineage connection from Nigeria. This misinterpretation has been spreading for a long time because of how his background is stated on this Wikipedia page. This update should ensure the accuracy and integrity of this Wikipedia page. There isn’t as much research into Zendaya’s father's background as there is into her mother’s. Maybe that is why articles stating her mother's background accurately mention her father’s factual background but are not being recognized. It is essential to value and present correct information to the world during such disinformation. I know my proposal will be considered necessary for this page and that the sources are very factual, mostly from interviews or legal documents about her family. I will state the reliable sources and particular areas where the proper information can be found. The reliable information is as follows:
https://hellobeautiful.com/2794456/zendaya-explores-her-roots-immigrant-heritage-month/ (It is stated explicitly in paragraph three(3) that Zendaya’s father changed his name after he found out about some of his genetic ancestry. It states he is a descendant of sharecroppers. Zendaya did this interview with her father, who was present. They did it together.
https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/zendaya-interview-2015-cover-story ( Under the subtitle, “You went to Africa for charity work recently. How was that experience?” Zendaya specifically states she is a black American woman and that there is a disconnect between black Americans and Africa. She mentions that her father took a DNA test to reclaim his “African” name.
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add zendaya hat theory, which should be it's own sub-section and encapsule the 2014 mandela effect zendaya hat theory. Hatdaya5 (talk) 00:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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Hello, I would like to change the background description of Zendaya’s father from “African-American with Nigerian roots” to Zendaya’s father, Kazembe Ajamu Coleman, who was born Samuel David Coleman, is Black American and originally from Arkansas. He is a descendant of sharecroppers. Her father took a DNA ancestry test and discovered he had some genetic ancestry from Nigeria, Macedonia, and Iceland. This discovery led him to change his birth name to what it is today. Here are the links to reliable sources to correct this misinterpretation of her father’s background: https://ethnicelebs.com/zendaya/comment-page-42
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Hello, I am reiterating that the description of Zendaya’s father is not accurate and doesn’t truly tell his background. I would like to change “Zendaya’s father is African-American with Nigerian ancestry” to “zendaya’s father is Black American and originally form Arkansas”. He is a descendant of sharecroppers. Reliable sources of her family tree and lineage from Arkansas and how her father is not actually from the country of Nigeria, but rather has genetic ancestry that can be traced back to Nigeria( Africa in general) and other places (Europe). Sources:
Hello again. I conducted a consensus a couple of days ago, and there weren't any objections to my recommended edit. I feel that enough time has passed for my edit request to be accepted and for this Wikipedia page to be changed for the better. The reliable sources provided are all factual. I have done what I was told to do before my edit was accepted, so I am expecting good results for requesting this much-needed edit.The link to the consensus I conducted will be linked below. Talk:Zendaya#clarifyingZendaya’sfather’sbackground —Preceding unsigned comment added by Accurate informationseeker (talk • contribs) 9 May 2025
Not done: Given the requestor is so close to being able to enact this edit themselves, I am closing this request out as not being necessary to make per WP:EDITXY bullet 3. —Sirdog(talk) 23:51, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
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My edits have seemed to be reverted to the original misinformation. I edited again and gave completely new links that explain and discuss the background and origins of Zendaya’s father. He is Black American. Born and raised in the state of Arkansas. He took a DNA ancestry test and learned that he had genetic ancestry that could be traced back to modern-day Nigeria, Iceland, and Macedonia. Zendaya is of black American descent on her dad’s side of the family, and has stated this multiple times. She and her father don’t have a legitimate connection to any of the countries I mentioned. These countries were found in their genetic ancestry. I hope my new changes will fix the issue, but if it happens again, what can I do about my edits being changed, even though I am giving correct information?? I made a discussion post and asked for feedback. I did not get input challenging me on the issue. The links provided for her father being “Nigerian” also include the other aspects of his genetic ancestry, including why he changed his name from his birth name. I am confused about why my edits would be changed back, and the link supporting him being “Nigeria” states he is from Arkansas and changed his birth name after taking a DNA ancestry test. Accurate informationseeker (talk) 00:55, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Original info is well sourced and sufficient for the article. This article isn't about her father. Fansites and wikis are specifically not to be used per WP:USERGEN. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:34, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
The information about her father's background is inaccurate and misleading. I mentioned everything in my previous comments about my recommendations and I wasn't challenged. I did what I was told to do and created a general consensus. My recccomendations were never rejected. Zendaya's wiki page is not about her father, but it mentions both him and her mother and their respective backgrounds. There is appears to be intentional to give detail about her parents and their backgrounds, otherwise why would it be mention at all? Her parents occupation and names could be stated only. Their ethnic backgrounds could be excluded. To say her wiki page isn't about her father seems dismissive and unwilling to acknowledge why I felt the changes were necessary. To say the links given are sufficient and creditable, but the links give either states by Zendaya herself that, her father is African American and took a dna ancestry test to reclaim his “African” name and African Americans do not know where they come from in Africa or a shorted vision of the ancestry deepdive Zendaya and her father did together that states he is black American and a descendant of sharecroppers. Is there a way for me to challenge this? I am interested to know. Accurate informationseeker (talk) 02:30, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Nigerian ancestry for father is well sourced. Black American and African American mean exactly the same thing. Being from Arkansas just means he is American and what US state he is from is an unnecessary detail meaningless to Zendaya. Nothing about her father in the current article is incorrect and is well-sourced. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:25, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
African American and Black American are synonyms. That's why I hyperlinked the African American wiki page when I stated her father is “Black American” in my edit. I have used both terms interchangeably in my comments and edits. Being “African-American with Nigerian ancestry” is not a synonym for what her father is. He is an ethnic Black American and originally from Arkansas. How is her father's real place of origin meaningless to Zendaya, but stating he has Nigerian ancestry isn't? It is well-sourced that her father has Nigerian, Icelandic, and Macedonian ancestry. He is a black American and can trace some of his genetic ancestry to other parts of the world. The way her father's background is stated seems to imply he has Nigerian origins and American nationality. Compare it to how her mother's background is stated. Also, he is a the grandchild of sharecroppers in Arkansas. That is apart of Zendaya's background and heritage, as stated in one of the links given in the reverted edit . It isn't an unnecessary or meaningless detail at all, if the sources given are be accurate. Accurate informationseeker (talk) 03:42, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
The African heritage is very important to Zendaya's and her father's self identity and mentions of a specific African country for her father's ancestry, even if based only on DNA evidence, is parallel to the mentions of specific European countries for her mother's ancestry. Zendaya seems to put no importance on which American state her father was born in same as for her mother's birth location. The fact that her paternal grandparents were tenant farmers seems to matter little to her and has no impact on her life. No mention of what her maternal grandparents did which is about as important. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:01, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Zendaya and her father is of Black American descent, so acknowledging their genetic African connection does seem important, but this Wikipedia page seems to imply an immediate and legitimate connection to Africa, specifically Nigeria that does not exist. The way her father’s background is stated seems to imply Zendaya’s father has Nigerian (immigrant) origins, but he is actually a descendant of slaves/sharecroppers in the United States. Furthermore, zendaya seems to put even more emphasis on the diversity of her background and acknowledging all aspects of her genetic makeup, including the Icelandic and Macedonian genetic ancestry that was found through DNA testing as well, as stated by both her and her father. Also, if having sharecroppers roots weren’t important to them, why would they mention it? It was specifically stated. Zendaya’s father also went into a lot more detail about his background during the interview they did together during immigrant heritage month. Zendaya’s mother has immigrant roots and family did actually come from Scotland and Germany. Zendaya’s father is American. He did not come from Nigeria and neither did his parents. That is the issue with how their backgrounds are stated. It’s misleading. Zendaya’s father side all come from the state of Arkansas. Also, Zendaya’s father name change from his birth name further leads to speculation he is an immigrant from Nigeria, which he isn’t. I feel his background can be stated in better way that doesn’t lead to this conclusion. He was born Samuel David Coleman and changed his name later in life. This is well known information, so the way his background is presented on Wikipedia does appear to inaccurate and misleading, even if not intentional. Being Nigerian vs being black American with roots from Arkansas is completely different from one another. Accurate informationseeker (talk) 15:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Article might need to make clear that Nigerian ancestry is via DNA testing but it is normal and well known that African Americans other than recent immigrants will not likely know for certain the actual locations in African their ancestors came from. When discussing ancestry in articles about Americans it does not mean only recent immigration - most Americans have ancestry rooted on other countries and articles generally mention it when known and relevant. Having Nigerian ancestry and being African-American in no way conflict with each other and very few readers will fail to understand that or believe he is a recent immigrant from Nigeria. Icelandic and Macedonian genetic markers is interesting trivia, I'm surprised they didn't find Cherokee as part of the mix as that seems to show up a lot on these tests. As for her father's birth name, that would matter in an article about him, otherwise we go with his current name. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:44, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Yes, I definitely do agree that the article should specify that the Nigerian ancestry mentioned is via dna ancestry testing. I feel acknowledging this is very important. Also, many people have concluded that her father was Nigerian, even though he isn’t because how it presented on this wiki page. Nigeria is a modern day country. It hasn’t existed for more than 62 years, so associating someone with that country and NOT explaining the extent of that “connection” will lead to believing her father or family members did come from the still very new country of Nigeria. I feel the entirety of what was discovered in her father’s DNA’s ancestry testing should be acknowledged to tell the full story of what Zendaya and her father were explaining about their background. As stated before, black Americans have ancestry for many different parts of the world, so just singling out Nigerian ancestry seems to imply something that isn’t true. Zendaya has mentioned having genetic ancestry from other African and European countries as well. I remember reading it. I will try to find that article source. I hope we can emphasize the via dna ancestry testing aspect of her background at least. Accurate informationseeker (talk) 00:43, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
I added a bit to the article to make clear Nigerian is via DNA testing. For that to show up as dominant in a DNA test it would indicate a significant percentage of her father's ancestors were taken from that region in west Africa which is not really surprising. What matters to Zendaya the most, though, it her African ancestry from her father reflected in her name and her acknowledgment of the contributions of her mothers ancestors to who she is. A lot of this explains her physical appearance. I still think the DNA identified contributions from other European countries is minor. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:11, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
I feel the change is good and a step in the right direction. However, I think maybe it could be worded in a way that implies “some” of her genetic DNA testing can be traced back to Nigeria, stating it that way would show her genetic ancestry can be traced to other places as well. As I have said before, Zendaya and her father explained their background and that the DNA results traced back to multiple countries. It was noted that the Icelandic and Macedonian ancestry was surprising, but Zendaya’s grandfather was a “light-skinned” black man, so it did make sense to them. Zendaya has expressed identifying as a light skinned black woman herself. Also, Zendaya’s name has Zimbabwean origins, and her father changed his name to one of Yoruba origins. I agree that African genetic ancestry is important, but it realistically doesn't seem that Nigeria is the only place that Zendaya and her father feel they have some sort of “genetic” connection to since she has a East African name origin. Accurate informationseeker (talk) 03:10, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
The name issue happened before the DNA testing reflecting the somewhat common belief by Americans that Africa is a homogenous single ethnicity. I don't think Americans in general really understand how huge Africa is and how diverse ethnically it is as well. So Zendaya's family wanted to reflect and honor their African heritage as they saw it - dark skin, obviously from Africa. The DNA testing focused things to a more specific region in West Africa. How dominant that was would require seeing the actual testing results but I expect it was very high. Surprising finds in DNA testing is normal. European genetics on her father's side showing up is not surprising. A lot of mixing in the background for most Americans but it is usually culturally insignificant. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:23, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
I agree with a lot that you have said. Zendaya’s dad is American and probably definitely does see Africa as a single homogeneous place, which couldn’t be farther from the truth. He sees Africa from the perspective of an Americans, which is usually viewing Africa as a collective, so her name being zendaya would be seen as tribute to “Africa” rather than an actual place in Africa. Accurate informationseeker (talk) 05:21, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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The Zendaya Hat Theory is a viral internet meme and semi-ironic conspiracy theory suggesting that Zendaya uses different types of hats in public appearances to convey hidden messages. It originated on TikTok in early 2025, with users analyzing her headwear in a style parodying film theory and conspiratorial thinking. Though mostly satirical, the trend has influenced fashion brands and sparked discussions about parasocial relationships and the blending of irony with celebrity culture.[2]
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Note: Moved the "Zendaya Hat Theory" section into a quote block within this request since the requesting editor is who added it. Noting the URL for the citation is dead. —Sirdog(talk) 01:19, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
Partner in infobox
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Update: Consensus has been reached at Tom Holland's page, so we just need to sort it out here now.
Tom Holland should be listed as Zendaya's partner in the infobox. It is absolutely ridiculous not to include it.
I added this to both the Tom Holland and Zendaya page, but was reverted. Over on the Tom Holland page, no reason was given other than "per note", which references the hidden note on the |partner parameter, which states "DO NOT use for fiancé(e)s, spouses, or anyone subject is intending to marry". Over on this page, I was reverted because "That is not what the parameter is for."
Neither of these things are true, and I have no idea where this comes from. Template:Infobox person/doc states is that it should be used for "If particularly relevant, or if the partner is notable; "partner" here means unmarried life partners in a domestic partnership". Zendaya and Tom Holland are notable, long-term, unmarried domestic partners. They have been together for many years, and live together. There's absolutely no reason not to include this in the infobox. Strugglehouse (talk) 18:48, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
See also WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. There is still no clear WP:CONSENSUS to include this at Tom Holland, either, but even if there were, it would not apply to this article, as per the aforementioned LOCALCONSENSUS. There would need to be consensus on this talk page specifically to apply it to this article, which there is still none. Stop blindly restoring challenged material unless there is consensus to do so. Amaury • 08:19, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
@Amaury LOCALCONSENSUS states we "cannot override community consensus". Not adding the partner to the infobox would be going against the community, because it goes against the documentation of Template:Infobox person, a template used on almost 484,500 mainspace articles. Strugglehouse (talk) 10:06, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
@Amaury Can you explain to me why you say there isn't consensus? Very few people disagree with the inclusion over at Talk:Tom Holland/Archive 2#Partner, and the one or two who do argue that they are not "domestic partners", which is proven to be incorrect as they have lived together for 2+ years. Therefore, the arguments against inclusion are proven to be completely incorrect. There's absolutely no reason not to include this. Strugglehouse (talk) 10:12, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
I stand corrected on Tom Holland, per Geraldo's comments on the article history. However, the rest of the point stands. It is a separate article, and whatever the consensus over there is does not apply here. The same consensus would need to be formed here separately. Amaury • 17:53, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
As long as they are in a domestic partnership relationship evidenced by living together, and that info is in the article and well sourced, the other person in the relationship can be added to this infobox partner attribute. As I stated in the other article "(engaged)" does not belong as irrelevant to the situation. Domestic partnership ends when marriage starts. Engaged does not mean domestic partner, but it doesn't preclude it either. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:36, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Engaged isn't a relevant status that needs mention in the infobox, it doesn't change anything related to either spouse or partner. Being engaged doesn't make anyone domestic partners. The only info that belongs with those attributes is the other person's name and a date range. If they actually get married, that ends the partner relationship and starts the spouse relationship. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:11, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
I think this should be removed from the info box. "Partner" is explicitly defined as someone the person does not plan to marry. In this case they explicitly by being engaged plan to marry. Not all data needs to be put in the info box. We can and probably should mention the engagement in the article body, but until they actually marry there is no proper way to put that information in the info box. They do not fit the narrow definition of partner that must be met to justify mentioning someone in the info box.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:02, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
@Johnpacklambert Absolutely not the case. Template:Infobox person states simply that ""partner" here means unmarried life partners in a domestic partnership". This is the definition we use. Nowhere does it say that because they're engaged that they aren't partners and shouldn't be listed. Strugglehouse (talk) 19:13, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
"A domestic partnership is an intimate relationship between people, usually couples, who live together and share a common domestic life but who are not married"
There is sufficient information in the personal life section to support it. Basically that was the point of this entire discussion. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:52, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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Not done. See the above topics on the talk page ("Marriage to Tom Holland" and other semi-protection edit requests). MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:38, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
Marriage to Tom Holland
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Her marriage to Tom Holland is only a rumor, as they have not confirmed it themselves and it was her stylist who made the claims, so it's just a rumor for now. ~2025-42557-69 (talk) 03:51, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
How is this a rumour? It’s her stylist who’s been with her for years. I think if anyone is gonna know and confirm that she’s married, it’s him. AlwaysBi (talk) 10:08, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
@AlwaysBi because they didn't say it themselves. Unless they come out and say it themselves or there are photos that are proven to be real, then it's a rumor. They didn't confirm anything, which means IF it's true, they'll say it themselves when THEY are ready. ~2025-42557-69 (talk) 16:03, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
There is a new photo of her (as of today) and she's wearing both her engagement ring and the other wedding band-style ring she was wearing the other day. Think this is likely to be all the confirmation we get.
No she didn't. She said the photos are AI, she didn't confirm in the slightest that it's just rumours. She also heavily implied it was true in a red carpet interview at a premiere the other day.
It's almost certainly true. But if people here want to wait for the actual words to come out of her mouth rather than seeing what's increasingly obvious then sure. Jt65478 (talk) 12:55, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
So Zendaya was at the oscars last night and she was once again seen wearing her wedding band and her engagement ring. She's been wearing that wedding band at every event that she's been to and gone to recently. It hasn't left her ring finger. Plus Law(who is Zendaya's stylist) doubled down on what he said on Match 1st. That Zendaya and Tom are married. ~2026-15435-95 (talk) 07:24, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
She did NOT say it was a rumor. You obviously misunderstood her once again. She said that the WEDDING PHOTOS were ai. That the WEDDING PHOTOS weren't real. She never said they/ she wasn't married. She was once again seen twice wearing her engagement ring and wedding band at the Dune part 3 panel and at Jimmy Kimmel. If she wasn't married her and her team would've come out and said "NO i'm not married". That hasn't happened. You and others need to learn to read between the lines and read context clues. She's married. ~2026-15435-95 (talk) 19:18, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Plus if you know anything about Zendaya and Tom or their relationship you'd know that they don't confirm anything when it comes to their relationship. Tom's dad was the one who officially confirmed their engagement. You really need to let go of the "they're not married because they haven't confirmed it themselves" narrative. You'll be waiting for forver. They're married. They're husband and wife. ~2026-15435-95 (talk) 19:23, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Analyzing pictures is original research. We need statements in reliable sources that give the marital status. People can wear wedding bands without actually being married. We need reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:50, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Wikipedia is supposed to be based on statements in reliable secondary sources. Not based on original research by trying to discern things from public appearances.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:53, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
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If you could please change the partner to husband. Law who has been Zendaya's stylist since she was 14 has confirmed that Zendaya is married to Tom Holland.Zendaya was and has been seen wearing her wedding band today and other times as well.~2026-15435-95 (talk) 00:37, 11 March 2026 (UTC) Lawrence(Zendaya's longtime stylist and friend) ~2026-15435-95 (talk) 00:37, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
Zendaya and Tom are not the type to announce stuff themselves when it comes to their private life. They didn't announce that they were dating, or that they were engaged. So why would they announce that they're married? The fact that Zendaya has been seen wearing a wedding band several times should be enough of an announcement. ~2026-15435-95 (talk) 06:47, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
Her own stylist Law who has been styling her since she was 14 years old has already said that they're married and that they got married. Plus she showed up to the oscars wearing her engagement ring and wedding band again. Zendaya is married. Tom is married. Zendaya and Tom are married. They're probably not just going to come out and confirm it. They didn't when they were dating nor did they when they got engaged. She's been seen wearing the band so many times ~2026-15435-95 (talk) 07:21, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
If you can find a reliable source, or preferably multiple ones, with strong reputations for fact checking, that confirm that Zendaya and Tom Holland are married we can include it in the article. There is no rush. We want to avoid making statements that are not reliable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:07, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
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The reference in the introduction for the single “Replay” re: the chart in which it appeared should be adjusted. I.e. it reached the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100; not the Billboard 200, which is dedicated to album performance. The album on which it was included, her self-titled debut, did reach 51 on that chart, but the line as phrased seems to be conflating the two. ~2026-17985-09 (talk) 01:28, 23 March 2026 (UTC)