Talk:Zacateco

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Last edited by: in topic Language name "z'apa"

Armor Piercing Arrows

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I remember reading that they had them. Is this true?

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(moved here from Comments subpage) Article has a good start and platform but needs expansion on history. It should also include more sections such as language, economy and diet.--Manny 21:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Language name "z'apa"

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@Kepler-1229b I have read the reference you cited (Handbook of Middle American Indians, Vol 12 pg. 300) and it is quite misleading to say that the book supports the Zacatec language being called z'apa. On page 300, the book presents a short vocabulary list recorded in 1940 from two travelling musicians from an unknown locality in Zacatecas who spoke a previously undocumented language. Although the musicians called their language "Zacatec" (and called it z'apa in the language itself, the book is of the opinion it is instead a remnant of the Guachichil language. Seemingly the logic of the author is that the language of the historic Zacateco ethnic group was likely closer to Nahuatl, while this language was found to be closest to Huichol. I do agree that it being labelled "Zacatec" in 1940 by no means proves this is the same Zacatec language of the 16th century - there easily could have been language shift and/or the name of the state could have been applied to any local indigenous language. At best, all we have on the true linguistic identity behind this vocabulary list is speculation.

Anyways, that's why I removed that text from this article. I think the best solution would be to summarize this information in the language section, and the vocabulary and the name z'apa can be mentioned with their full context. Last edited by: (talk) 12:25, 14 March 2026 (UTC)Reply