Talk:Zac Alcorn

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https://www.newspapers.com/image/988719927/?match=2&terms=zac%20alcorn

https://www.newspapers.com/image/673994324/?match=1&terms=zac%20alcorn

https://www.newspapers.com/image/673996211/?match=1&terms=zac%20alcorn

https://www.newspapers.com/image/527955849/?match=2&terms=zac%20alcorn

https://www.newspapers.com/image/988930138/?match=1&terms=zac%20alcorn

https://www.newspapers.com/image/988868709/?match=2&terms=zac%20alcorn

https://www.newspapers.com/image/182782861/?match=3&terms=zac%20alcorn

https://archive.ph/hbqb1

https://archive.ph/9z32O

https://archive.ph/rB2iX

BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:37, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

GA review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Zac Alcorn/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs) 19:11, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 17:37, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

I will review this one. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:37, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments

• football, basketball and track and field you should add a comma after basketball
  • Done.
• linebacker, tight end and defensive end, comma after "tight end"
  • Done.
• team due to frustration of not being used much -->team due to frustration with not being used much
  • Done.
• The paper noted that the closest town to his home, Hay Springs, had a population of 652 this is repeated from earlier in the article. Can you rephrase a bit so it isn't so repetitive?
  • Changed to The paper noted that the closest town to his home had only a few hundred residents, while Chadron had 5,300 residents and Spearfish 8,000.; does that work?
• You typically summarize the player's career by saying how many games they played and their main stats. It would be nice to add that here.
  • Done.
• References:
  • All appear reliable for what is being cited
  • All are consistently formatted
  • Spot checks: 3, 7, 10, 16, 19, 24, 26

Nice work. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:01, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

• @Gonzo fan2007: BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:08, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Sxchen1110 (talk) 05:29, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that in college, Zac Alcorn played football at a stadium with a capacity of 4,200, while in the NFL, he played at one with a capacity of 70,000?

• Source: Capital Times (2)

• • ALT1: ... that Zac Alcorn is the only person from Black Hills State University to play in the NFL? Source: PFR
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ghafur Akbar Dharmaputra
  • Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours.

5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 461 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:40, 30 April 2026 (UTC).

• The article was improved to GA status on April 27, or three days before the nomination. It is long enough and adequately sourced. I did not find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ was provided and it is a complete review. Both hooks have issues: ALT1 is outright not interesting to a broad audience as the university is probably not even well-known in the US, let alone outside it. It's not clear how significant that him being the only NFL player from there is. ALT0 is marginally better, but I feel that it might require sports knowledge or at least background to fully appreciate. Are there other more broadly-interesting or appealing options? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:49, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

I would be okay with ALT0 only if there are no remaining options and if it got a reword, though my preference remains to propose alternatives first. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:45, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. How about any of: ALT2 ... that Zac Alcorn went from the lowest level of college football straight to the NFL? / ALT3 ... that in the NFL, Zac Alcorn played in a stadium more than 15 times larger than his college stadium? / ALT4 ... that after not using a playbook in college, Zac Alcorn used one that weighed 25 pounds (11 kg) in the NFL? / ALT5 ... that Zac Alcorn is the only person from his college to ever play in the NFL? (there aren't many people who can say they are the only person from their school ever to play in the NFL). BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:43, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

I would be okay with either ALT2 or ALT5; however, given that ALT5 is a superlative hook, I would like to see multiple sources covering that fact if possible. It also doesn't help that the source you provided is a database rather than an article that outright says he was the only one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:58, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11: Been a couple weeks, any progress on this? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:28, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure what else to do? I'm not sure there's other sources for the 'first' claim. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:37, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: My main concern is that the "first" or "only" hooks are cited to a single source, Pro Football Reference. As far as I know, it's considered a reliable database, but I'm not sure if it's comprehensive or reliable enough to meet the "Such hooks require sourcing that discusses the set in some detail" guideline at WP:DYKDEFINITE. For such a strong claim I would be more comfortable if there were at least two sources, even if one is comprehensive. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:46, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11 and Narutolovehinata5: I found the claim at the Black Hills State University Athletics. On one hand the "Yellow Jackets in the NFL" section lists only Alcorn as a player; but on the other it says he and two other players "had moments in the National Football League" without specifying what (even if the other two didn't play for the team). Given that's technically a non-independent source and also there's a backlog at DYK, we should run ALT2 if that's not enough. ミラP@Miraclepine 14:40, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

I checked the source for ALT2, which confirms that he played in the NAIA, but not that the NAIA is the lowest level of college football (at least not in the clipping). I'm also wondering if the hook might have WP:SYNTH issues since they would require separate sources it seems. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:03, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

The source says, "That's because the likelihood of an NAIA athlete landing a job as an NFL player is slightly greater than the odds of being struck by lightning. In the hierarchy of college football, the NAIA rests at the bottom of the totem pole." That seems to say it is the lowest level? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:08, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I don't have a Newspapers.com account so I can only check five clippings per month and was trying to conserve them. I think that should solve my concern. Given the concerns with the "first" claim, I am approving ALT2 only. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:53, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: You can get Newspapers.com for free at the Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, in case you don't know. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:28, 30 May 2026 (UTC)