Talk:Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus

Quotes in Promotion & Release section are not in references

Multiple quotes in this section are not in the sourced material. The quotes are in this source - https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-10-06-bethesda-were-not-afraid-of-being-openly-anti-nazi Michael Z Freeman (talk) 09:56, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: RetroCosmos (talk · contribs) 18:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Final note

I've done a source spot check and all sources I've looked at check out. Keep up the good work and I hope to see more of them at GA nominations. RetroCosmos (talk) 04:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I can take this. Will be adding to it as I read.

The following good articles have been considered:

• Hitman 3

Running note: I notice we are in the same timezone. I will add more by tomorrow afternoon. But I don't really see a whole lot wrong with the article. RetroCosmos (talk) 18:35, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Well-written:

• the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and
  • The game was developed using id Tech 6; the technology and animations required a complete overhaul from The New Order, which used id Tech 5.
    • This sentence may be fine in the lead, but it might be worthwhile to specify that this is a game engine in the Dev section RetroCosmos (talk) 18:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Matthies described Sigrun as a "complicated character" due to her troubled past Despite being "completely absorbed in the Nazi ideology and culture", she resents her past.[32] Adolf Hitler was featured it the Venus level. Please fix this part RetroCosmos (talk) 18:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

    Adolf Hitler was featured it the Venus level. - I assume you mean "featured in the Venus level", although this sentence doesn't really tie in to the rest of the paragraph, it kinda feels like it was jammed in there. It might benefit from better integration RetroCosmos (talk) 13:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

Verifiable with no original research:

• it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;
• reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);
• it contains no original research; and
• it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.

Broad in its coverage:

• it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and
• it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

• May benefit from topically relevant pictures, such as a comparison between the id4 and id5 engines? The development section is a bit empty. But this is not fatal to the GA RetroCosmos (talk) 18:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

@RetroCosmos: - Thanks for the review! I have addressed all the issues. There are no suitable free-use images for the development section (no pic for devs). OceanHok (talk) 11:47, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Quite frankly I am having difficulty finding much else wrong with this article. I'll have a look over again and then perform a source spot-check, though nothing really jumps out to me on that front either. RetroCosmos (talk) 13:11, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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Vandalism

The top portion of the page has been replaced with repetitive mentions of Hitler. Maybe we can undo it and lock down the page? 67.71.31.118 (talk) 20:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Marketing campaign and controversy

The article mentions: "Its marketing campaign attracted controversy for leaning into real-life events" in the lead section and "The team did not want to avoid controversy by sidestepping Nazi ideology or making them "cartoony". As a result, the game was "political" in nature, though it was not designed to be a "commentary on current topics"." in the "Story" section of the article. However, no part of the article explains what the controversy actually was. Should this article talk about some of the things that made the game's marketing or themes controversial? Lazarbeem (talk) 18:24, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

The controversy is covered in the "release" section of the article. OceanHok (talk) 11:29, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Is it explained what the controversy was? Lazarbeem (talk) 15:24, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

But what exactly is the controversy? After reading List of controversies involving Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus, I cannot say I can really find it. The only usable part is the part about the boycott from alt-right people/Trump supporters (real-life responses to the game's marketing campaign). OceanHok (talk) 16:03, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

The controversy was references to real life American politics at the time. This was most notable in the ad slogan "Make America Nazi-Free Again", which was viewed by numerous media outlets to be a play on Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan. However, another ad slogan which was "Not my America" was reported to be in reference to the phrases "Not my President" and "Not my America" being used by protesters during anti-Trump protests at the time. And "These are not fine people" being in reference to Trump's "very fine people on both sides" comment when asked about the Unite the Right rally. Lazarbeem (talk) 16:18, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Among non slogan things, one ad referenced Richard B. Spencer being punched in the face at Trump's inauguration earlier that year. Lazarbeem (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

I think that these should be added to this article so that the reader knows what exactly the controversies were Lazarbeem (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

But what was the 'outrage"? You are just mentioning the marketing campaign mirroing real-life events but what exactly was the controversy? OceanHok (talk) 09:08, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

The fact that they were parodying phases in American politics at the time that had some sort of connection to Donald Trump Lazarbeem (talk) 19:49, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

And it was already mentioned in the release section? OceanHok (talk) 00:52, 11 June 2026 (UTC)