Talk:When Harry Met Sally...

Contradiction

I removed the following:

This scene, filmed at Katz's Deli in New York, was reportedly shot dozens of times, if apparently only for the amusement of the male camera crew, with Meg Ryan's character acting it out each time.

This contradicts the director comments on the DVD. He says that it was reshot because Meg Ryan was embarassed and shy, and that he had to demonstrate. KJ 06:18, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, that's fine, but I added Katz's Deli back. Hugh 12:35, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I'd only seen the DVD once or twice; I was using a VCD as my source. I bought the DVD yesterday. Anyway, according to the DVD's special features, it seems the scene was indeed shot again and again. It wasn't an improv scene, since Meg Ryan mentioned that she could do it, when she first read that part of the script. It was her idea. --Kjoonlee 07:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Ellipsis

Rather than having three dots and no space, the title of this page should surely be
When Harry Met Sally …
as an ellipsis denotes indicates missing word or words. Paul Tracy_|\talk 22:27, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

That may be in some manuals of style, but I don't think it's a hard and fast rule. This is a movie title, not formal writing. In this case, the clear preference of the official typography (movie posters, official site, Amazon listing ...) seems to be running Sally and the ellipsis together, so I say no change is warranted. --Dhartung | Talk 04:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

"Many People"?

"Many people who have seen the movie said if they hear the title of the movie, the fake orgasm scene is always on their mind."

Who are these "many people"? A couple of friends of the person who wrote the article? Unless this sentence can be a bit more clear, I think it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.11.146 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 4 August 2006

Removed. --Kjoonlee 14:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The makers of the DVD release has some info on the fake orgasm scene, and just before it starts a large number of people can be heard saying that they remember the fake orgasm scene first or that they only remember that scene. I don't think it could be verified or peer-reviewed, though. Maybe people who didn't say anything about the fake orgasm scene just didn't appear on the DVD. --Kjoonlee 18:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikiquote

Wikiquote:When Harry Met Sally... has been linked from this article, and it's a lot better than it used to be. But it's still not perfect; I'd appreciate some help. Thanks. :) --Kjoonlee 14:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Removed passage

I removed this from the article since:

(1) It's IMHO probably of no general interest.

(2) There doesn't seem to be any logical place to put it.

(3) It's unsourced.

"The film has helped to fuel myths at The University of Chicago that alumni from the institution had a very high intra-marriage rate, possibly due to their inability to form relationships with "other people" as shown in the movie (although Harry and Sally's scholastic affiliation is not a focus of the movie). In reality the marriage rate is significantly above average but not an outlier."

--201.50.248.179 23:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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Good article

This article is well written and well referenced, and is an excellent overview of the topic. I was particularly impressed with the strong lead section. The article meets all of the GA criteria... Johnfos (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

significant catchphrase?

Google indicates that this film is the origin of the catchphrase "Women need a reason to have sex; men only need a place" Is this the case ? is it worth mentioning? I guess to do so would open a large box of worms Feroshki (talk) 09:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

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Merge soundtrack?

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Regarding merging When Harry Met Sally... (soundtrack) into When Harry Met Sally...

The soundtrack is not independently notable, even if there are useful content. In fact, I don't see how singles make the soundtrack independently notable, as there is not enough content to make the soundtrack page a strong stand-alone. --George Ho (talk) 22:35, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Oppose seems to have sufficient sources to justify standalone article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:23, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Oppose merge - [invited by RfC bot] The article says "The soundtrack went to #1 on the Billboard Traditional Jazz Chart ..". Assuming that is correct (I have not read the sources) this is a slam-dunk for album notability per WP:NALBUM, so an article dedicated to the album is warranted. The list of songs on the album would look out of place in the movie article. --Noleander (talk) 00:36, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

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Saif Ali Khan?

"It stars Saif Ali Khan"....what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.67.14.2 (talk) 20:59, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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Susan Dey, Elizabeth Perkins, Elizabeth McGovern, Molly Ringwald for the role of Sally Albright

As far as I can tell, the claim that these actresses were considered for the role is unverifiable. The edit which added this information was made by an IP user in 2009. This user made similar, and similarly uncited, additions to Pretty Woman and Gangs of New York (, and respectively). Our anonymous friend may have been listening to some reliable but obscure radio interview and added this information as they heard it, but I think it is at least equally likely that these were purely vandalism.

At this point there are many sources which will confirm the claim about alternate casting choices (even the Independent), but I fear citogenesis is too great a risk, and we should avoid including this information without a reliable source predating 2009. — HTGS (talk) 03:12, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Superbowl ad

It is wrong to take a single word out of context, "recreated", to give the false impression that the scene from the movie was actually recreated in the mayo advertisement. The ad was a sequel, not a recreation. This is obvious from the ad itself,from the article that mistakenly does use the word "recreate", and from the second more detailed reference I have supplied. Using the word recreate, without the context of the article cited, suggests it is a line by line imitation, and that is clearly false. Bob Gollum (talk) 16:48, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

In addition, the ad did not just run at the Super Bowl; as per the reference given, it ran in other forums until at least May of that year. Writing as if the ad only aired at the Super Bowl is very inaccurate. Bob Gollum (talk) 16:53, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Daniels, Colin (January 29, 2025). "Hellmann's Takes Harry and Sally Back to Katz's Deli for Super Bowl Ad". Adweek. Retrieved February 14, 2025. states:

• "Hellmann’s wanted to do something bigger and bolder to celebrate its fifth consecutive year running a Super Bowl ad."
• "Hellmann’s 30-second Super Bowl ad recreates the iconic diner scene..."

The unnecessary, added ref, Hicks, Katie. "How Hellmann's brought Harry and Sally back together". Marketing Brew. Retrieved 2026-05-10., states:

• "...condiment brand Hellmann’s brought Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal together again for its 2025 Super Bowl ad."
• "...this time for a somewhat toned-down re-creation of the film’s iconic fake orgasm scene."

The added external link is inappropriate, even if it wasn't a duplicate of what's available in both references. --Hipal (talk) 16:55, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

You are not addressing the point. The word "recreation", in the context of an article that talks about how the new scene is different from the old, is not misleading. The word "recreation", without that context, is misleading, as it implies the scene is the same as the old. If you want to use that word, you have to go into more detail about what is in the ad - something you edited out of an earlier version.

Placing a link in the article to the item being discussed in the article is not inappropriate. Bob Gollum (talk) 17:04, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

WP:EL:"With rare exceptions, external links should not be used in the body of an article." --Hipal (talk) 17:13, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

"An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a legally distributed copy of the work, so long as none of the Restrictions on linking and Links normally to be avoided criteria apply." Bob Gollum (talk) 17:42, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

This is an article about the movie, not the ad. --Hipal (talk) 18:01, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Of course. And the paragraph is about the ad. It makes sense, and is in accordance with the guidelines, to link to the piece that is being talked about in the paragraph. If you prefer, it can be done as a footnote cite rather than as a link. Bob Gollum (talk) 18:31, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

No, per reasons given. --Hipal (talk) 18:43, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

You have not addressed the reasons given for including it. Is it not helpful to the reader to see the source? The wikipedia guideline seems to think it is. Bob Gollum (talk) 11:25, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

You appear to be using a LLM to comment here. Perhaps you could be clearer on what you are a commenting on and what policies support the content that you prefer. --Hipal (talk) 16:07, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

No LLM involved. As I have indicated, a discussion of a particular film clip should link to a site hosting a legally distributed copy of the work. Think of it from the reader's point of view - it is helpful for him or her to be able to follow a link to the original, not just to a description of the original. Bob Gollum (talk) 20:26, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

The added external link is inappropriate, even if it wasn't a duplicate of what's available in both references. --Hipal (talk) 21:57, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

Given the quotes above, it's noteworthy for being a Super Bowl ad, and that should be prominent in the article content per the first version.

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In February 2025, Ryan and Crystal recreated the scene as part of an advertisement for [[Super Bowl LIX]] for [[Hellmann's and Best Foods|Hellmann's]] [[mayonnaise]]. The "I'll have what she's having" line was delivered by [[Sydney Sweeney]].

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In February 2025, Ryan and Crystal returned to the Deli in an advertisement for [[Hellmann's and Best Foods|Hellmann's]] brand [[mayonnaise]] that was evocative of the original scene and that first ran as part of the [[Super Bowl LIX]] broadcast. The "I'll have what she's having" line was delivered by [[Sydney Sweeney]].

The second version appears driven by OR against the POV of the sources. --Hipal (talk) 19:23, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

I'll revert if there are no attempts to address the policies. --Hipal (talk) 20:55, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

It is not OR; it is properly summarizing the sources rather than taking a single word out of context and distorting the meaning. Bob Gollum (talk) 21:23, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

The other problem with the earlier version is that it suggests the ad was specifically meant as a Super Bowl ad. That is a false message; the ad kept on airing for months after the Super Bowl. Bob Gollum (talk) 22:23, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Avoid repeating your posts: Your fellow editors can read your prior posts, so repeating them wastes time and space and may be considered bludgeoning the discussion. - WP:EXHAUST --Hipal (talk) 22:34, 14 May 2026 (UTC)