Talk:Warrior II

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"Warrior II" redirects to the yoga pose Virabhadrasana. This is a core pose in yoga and practised regularly by hundreds of millions of people across the English-speaking world. It is not remotelyl credible that an obsolete computer game should be the primary topic, so I've reverted the page move, restoring the redirect. I've added a hatnote to Virabhadrasana. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:28, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

Reverted the undiscussed move. Please se WP:PCM. 162 etc. (talk) 16:52, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Requested move 23 March 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved with a weak consensus. I very much feel this is on the edge but the argument that Virabhadrasana, while clearly a bigger topic as a whole, barely got any of its' page views via Warrior II is convincing and was not countered. This also doesn't seem to be a situation where "No consensus" is essentially a "Not moved" so I think even a weak consensus is worth noting down. (non-admin closure) ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 15:03, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

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Warrior II → Warrior II (game)Warrior II (game) – No clear primary topic, Virabhadrasana has 666 views compared with only 57[] for the game. Google and Images only returns the yoga meaning and Books doesn't return anything about the game. By long-term significance the yoga meaning is likely primary. This title should either redirect to the yoga meaning or be a DAB. This title was created by User:Presidentman in June 2011 as a redirect for the yoga meaning and was switched among similar yoga articles between its creation and December 2018. On 22 January 2026 User:~2026-48156-1 created an article about the game and it was nominated for deletion 2 days later. On 27 January 2026 User:Chiswick Chap moved it to a qualified title, on 28 January User:Zxcvbnm filed a request to revert an undiscussed move and I contested and I pointed out the longstanding status quo, it was then moved back by User:OwenX (see also Special:Diff/1336053111) on 1 Febuary due to the ongoing AFD, which I think was fine. It was them moved again on 8 Febuary by Chiswick Chap and moved back again by User:162 etc. saying to use RM. I don't think 162 etc. reverting and saying use RM was correct since the game was never established as the primary topic, had the redirect pointed to a parent article like List of Commodore 64 games (N–Z) for a few months before the article was created I would have said it was established as primary but given the redirect pointed to yoga articles from its creation in 2011 until the undiscussed overwrite of the redirect and given the game's primary status was challenged less than 5 days later I don't think it should have been moved back to the base name without a formal RM. I see no reason why a longstanding article being at the base name can be considered the status quo but not a redirect. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:45, 23 March 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 09:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 03:30, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Video games has been notified of this discussion. ScalarFactor (talk) 21:37, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Oppose - while the yoga form is clearly a more popular article in general, the redirect from Warrior II essentially only ever got 0 or 1 page views in a day. For a time without the Warrior II game article existing, from throughout all of 2024, Virabhadrasana got ~21.5k page views, while the Warrior II redirect got less than 100. It just doesn't seem to be used to direct readers to the article often. ScalarFactor (talk) 21:42, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Oppose - It should be Warrior II (video game) as per WP:NCGAMESDAB but I know from experience that these old computer games tend to get very little attention. It don't oppose the move on principle.

Changed my opinion to oppose. If Virabhadrasana II was it's own article my position might be different. As it stands I don't see why a redirect to an article in which the subject is only a subtopic with only a few sentences description should be considered the primary topic over a topic that does manage to maintain it's own article.Whipmywillows (talk) 21:53, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose The broader topic of the yoga form does not equate to the far narrower subtopic of a single yoga pose. It is arguable the game is primary for this very narrow name. I do not oppose a hatnote directing people to the yoga form, but there's no real reason to disambiguate this without evidence that "Warrior II" is directing many people to the yoga form. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:59, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Support - the old video game gets essentially no hits, so WP:NCGAMESDAB has it right. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ is wrong about the "broader topic of the yoga form", as there are only 3 Warrior Poses (I: face forwards, II: face sideways, III: face forwards, balancing) and they are closely related. Even if he was right and we have to divide by 3, II would still be getting more than 200 times as many hits as the game. They get vastly more hits than the obsolete game; they have been in existence for a century; and they will still be in wide popular use in a century's time, unlike the game. In short, the yoga pose is certainly the primary topic here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:42, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

I don't think popularity a century from now is a reasonable metric to gauge a topic, we aren't fortune tellers. Also "obsolete" is unnecessarily hostile, the game can still be played and is still played. Would you call The Maltese Falcon an obselete film? Would you call Robinson Crusoe an obselete book? I think my position has flipped on this, we're not talking about a yoga pose article titled "Warrior II", we're talking about a redirect to part of a larger article on a set of yoga poses in which the pose in question gets at most a three sentence description and the phrase "Warrior II" never even appears. I think the video game is the more specific topic. Whipmywillows (talk) 19:36, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.