Talk:Trawl

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Crisco 1492 in topic Did you know nomination

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Created by ISD (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

ISD (talk) 13:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC).Reply

  • Hi ISD, thanks for your comment/question over at Euphories. However, that does not count for QPQ purposes as it is neither a full review against all criteria nor a quickfail against one of the required objective criteria. Please complete the review or provide a different QPQ; otherwise this nomination may be marked for closure. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 05:21, 29 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - Not sure; per WP:DYKCITE can you provide a quote from the offline source that validates ALT1?
  • Interesting: No - Both hooks need additional work. ALT0 merely recites a fact that requires readers to be familiar with the Maugham Award or with Johnson's work to be interesting; otherwise, it's a simple recitation of the fact that a particular book won a particular award. ALT1 is more interesting but based on the article text it appears that Johnson did view Trawl as an autobiography, just in the form of a novel. I would suggest reworking this to heighten the interest and align with the presentation in the article.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:59, 29 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

  • ISD No need to add it to the source; the practice is to add a quotation from the offline source within the DYK nomination discussion that validates the hook fact. The source remains offline for me; in my jurisdiction at least the Google Books link provides only tiny snippets and I'm unable to view the page you reference. Please also suggest an alternative or reworded hook to address the WP:DYKINT issue. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:34, 29 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
ALT2 ... that B. S. Johnson's novel Trawl is based on a three-week trip he himself took on a fishing trawler? [Source: https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/b-s-johnson/trawl/9781447200369]
I'm going to offer an alternative, rephrasing it slightly but leaving all facts from this nomination in place so I should be able to approve this if you like it. ALT2a ... that B. S. Johnson based an autobiographical novel on his three-week voyage on a fishing trawler? ISD let me know if this works for you. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'm happy with the change. Feel free to use it. ISD (talk) 13:53, 30 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
ALT2a approved for use; interesting, sourced and cited in the article. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC)Reply