Talk:Transocean Air Lines Flight 942/GA1

GA review

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Nominator: TheNuggeteer (talk · contribs) 10:32, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Aviationwikiflight (talk · contribs) 05:25, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

I'll review this. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 05:25, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Infobox

• Transocean Air Lines Plane similar to the plane involved in the accident, with the same Douglas DC-4 type. – Suggested rephrase for clarity and consistency (decapitalize "Plane" and for consistency within aviation accident articles): "A Transocean Air Lines Douglad DC-4, similar to the aircraft involved in the accident".

• Fixed.

• Crash due to loss of control – Past tense needed, so "Crashed due to loss of control". Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

• Link Douglas DC-4? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

• Suggestion (not an obligation): Could you link the airports in the infobox per Template:Infobox aircraft occurrence#Occurrences involving a single aircraft? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

  There is no mention of the used airports. The sites where the aircraft launched and was planned to land are already linked in the infobox. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 11:00, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Lead

• No problems here. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Background

• The flight was charted to transfer military personnel following the company's contract with the United States Department of Defense... – I think the word is chartered, not charted. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

• Since multiple aircraft which were used to fly the personnel were gone, the army charted the plane to transport them. – Same here. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

• Before departure, a Defense Visual Flight Rules plan was approved with the Air Route Traffic Control, suggesting a 500 feet (150 metres) altitude by Red Airway 88 to Albuquerque, New Mexico... – It's unclear what is meant by: "... suggesting a 500 feet (150 metres) altitude by..." The report says that it indicates "a flight to be flown at an altitude of at least 500 feet." So, a potential rephrasing could be: "Before departure, a Defense Visual Flight Rules plan was approved with the Air Route Traffic Control, indicating that the flight should be flown at an altitude of at least 500 feet (150 metres) altitude by Red Airway 88 to Albuquerque, New Mexico..." Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

• On the morning the aircraft launched... – I'm not sure launch is the correct word to use here, since it implies that it was launched from something or that the aircraft was revealed. Suggested rephrase: "On the morning of the flight..." Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

Aircraft

• It had a total of 5976 total airframe hours.– MOS:DIGITS says that "In general, digits should be grouped and separated either by commas or by narrow gaps..."

• Fixed.

• The crew consisted of Chief Pilot Harvey W. Rodgers (41) – The name in the Wikipedia article doesn't match the name given in the cited source which uses "Harvey Rogers". Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

• Chief Rodgers had "considerable" flying experience according to his associates, who also added that he strictly adhered to airline regulations and recommended other flight crews to do the same. – The Civil Aeronautics Board are saying in their own words that he had "considerable" flying experience, not his associates. ("He had considerable flying experience and ability...") Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

Flight

• The trip was expected to take six hours and 35 minutes, with sufficient fuel for 10 hours. – Per MOS:NUMNOTES, "Comparable values near one another should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently. [...] Similar guidance applies where "mixed units" are used to represent a single value (as is often done with time durations, and in the imperial and US customary systems): [...] 3 minutes 27 seconds; three minutes twenty-seven seconds." Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

• Perhaps link to Instrument flight rules (and no need to capitalize the letters). Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

Accident

• The cause was loss of control. – Why is the cause being given already? The information should normally belong in Transocean Air Lines Flight 942#Investigation (where it already is stated). Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.

Aftermath

• The services could see the plane burning, with the fuselage still intact. – The cited source says that they could see bodies burning within the intact portions of the fuselage, not that the entirety of the fuselage was intact. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Fixed.
  • The services could see bodies burning within the partially intact fuselage. – Correction: not the partially intact fuselage but the portions of the fuselage that were intact. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:27, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Engineers continued identifying crash victims a few days beyond the crash. – Not what the cited source says:

  The slow, grim task of identifying the bodies of 35 air crash victims continued tonight as engineers studied wreckage in hope of learning what caused a four -engine plane to fall from the skies late yesterday.

• Fixed.
  • It's not the engineers who were tasked with identifying the victims. All the source says is that the identification of the victims continued as engineers were studying the wreckage. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:27, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Changed to responders. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 11:00, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Lawsuits:
  • The accident caused lawsuits, with one lawsuit rejected. Can't find where this is mentioned in the source. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Rephrased.

• • Another lawsuit ended with the implementation of "conflict-of-laws" principles if someone has a thought to sue. – Same here with this source. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Rephrased too.

• • The phrases above are verified in the Check-Six.com source cited in the article but I'm not seeing any proof that the website is reliable. It seems to be a self-published source. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• After checking portions of the website, I can conclude that the source seems to be reliable but lacking in design (I do not know if this source is reliable in concluding that they are a "group", but I think this works. Since they put emphasis on them being a group, I think this can be an editorial board.) Further verification online shows that the lawsuits are actually real, which further proves that this source is reliable.

Investigation

• The cause of the crash was due to loss of control. – Loss of control of what? This should be mentioned. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Added.

Image

• File:DC-4TransoceanColor (4403732171).jpg is correctly licensed and free to use. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

• Replied to everything. @Aviationwikiflight: pinging. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 08:37, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

  @TheNuggeteer: Just two more comments to address and I'll be happy to pass this. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:28, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

  I believe I have addressed these comments. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 11:01, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

  @Aviationwikiflight: pinging. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 11:02, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

  Ok, happy to pass. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:03, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

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