Talk:The Princess Bride

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I'm taking the thing out about the eleven fingers and knobs that go to eleven. there's no connection. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.171.81.42 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Fred Savage in infobox

Fred Savage plays the grandson in the movie. His name is listed in the cast list section. I was surprised taking a quick glance back that his name was not in the infobox until 09:20, 10 July 2025 when added by an IP user. It was rolled back, without edit summary shortly thereafter. I did an AGF rollback and added the name back. The grandson role is significant, with many quotes that are often remembered (e.g. "Is this a kissing book?") I believe his name should be infobox. Please include a discussion of this here before taking his name out. — ERcheck (talk) 14:11, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

The infobox film template describes the list of "starring" ..."As a starting point, use the WP:PRIMARY source of the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release as a rule of thumb for listing starring actors."....It also says, "An alternative approach may be determined by local consensus and with WP:SECONDARY sources." There are certainly many secondary sources that validate Fred Savage's role in the movie. (For which he also, won a Young Artist Award best Young Actor award). — ERcheck (talk) 14:32, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Except Savage is not listed on the poster nor named as a main actor in the credits. The reason we have this for films is to prevent this type of favoritism of listing actors that an edyior feels should get a major credit when the film doesn't. And why should he be listed above Wright here? Again, that's why we objectively use the poster billing to remove all questions. That said in the lede, after listing the principle cast it would be fair to the film includes guest roles by Savage, Kane, and Crystal, so that gets the name into the lede. Masem (t) 14:43, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Fully concur with Masem. Objective viewers of the film would consider Savage's role to be a rather minor supporting role. It is the starring actors who presented the story within the story and got most of the screen time in this film. WP features only the starring actors in the infobox precisely to avoid these kinds of debates. --Coolcaesar (talk) 14:53, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

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Requested move 25 May 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus that the film is the primary topic over the book. (closed by non-admin page mover) {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs}} 08:57, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

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• The Princess Bride (film) → The Princess Bride
• The Princess Bride → The Princess Bride (disambiguation)

– The film is the primary topic. It gets over 83% of pageviews between the three potential topics, and over 70% of identifiable clickthroughs out of the disambiguation page. This is "much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined" to be sought for the term "The Princess Bride". The film is also the primary topic by long-term significance. It's one of the most beloved films ever, having entrenched itself into pop culture in a way that the novel never did. The movie has produced a thousand lines that have entered the cultural lexicon. It's often considered Rob Reiner's best film, which is no mean feat, considering the stiff competition. It's also been selected for preservation in the National Film Registry for being "culturally, historically or aesthetically significant".

Compared to this, the novel is much less significant; it wasn't a hit when it came out, and wouldn't be nearly as well-remembered had it not been attached to the film. Please keep in mind that neither historical age nor being the origin of a name are determinative; just because the film came from the novel doesn't mean it can't be the primary topic. There are movies that are considered to be the primary topics over the works that they are adapted from, if they are more significant than the source material. The Princess Bride is more significant than the source material. Ladtrack (talk) 05:49, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose, or if anything the book should be the primary target. This mirrors a compariable situation with The Neverending Story (book is primary, film secondary, despite the film being the more popular one). We should always honor the source material with the primary target even if the adaption becomes more significant. Masem (t) 11:54, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

  We should always honor the source material with the primary target even if the adaption becomes more significant. I do not believe there is any policy or guideline explicitly supporting this. It should depend on how the source material and the adaptation compare with each other and other topics as needed, per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Ladtrack links to multiple instances of adaptations being the primary topic (I was personally thinking of Fight Club being at the film adaptation instead of the book when I started reading this thread). We know the pageviews, and we should look for long-term significance. The film has a making-of book and a philosophy-centric book of essays. Here from 2024, it is said, "First, little scholarship has been done on [the book] The Princess Bride. While the book's reputation may rely much on the movie's success, Robinson's comment shows that poor marketing may have caused the book's muted initial reception." That article goes on to encourage to "expand on critical research" of Goldman's works. Erik (talk | contrib) 13:31, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

  Disagree, source material can often be obscure and not something people are looking for.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:15, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

• Support as the primary topic over the original book per the nominator's argument, my finding above that the book's long-term significance is low and boosted by the film, combined with the film having numerous books (making-of, philosophy, even recipes). From what I can tell, searching for the title and "legacy" or "anniversary", the film comes up much more than the book, like with Los Angeles Times's 2014 article ‘As You Wish’: A look at the legacy of ‘The Princess Bride’ here. Erik (talk | contrib) 13:31, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
• SUpport per nom, PRIMARYTOPIC.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:15, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

Comment: As Erik has suggested to me, I'll list out cases here where the primary topic isn't the original work, but rather the film adaptation:

• First Blood is the primary topic over First Blood (novel)
• Forrest Gump over Forrest Gump (novel)
• Legally Blonde over Legally Blonde (novel)
• Killers of the Flower Moon over Killers of the Flower Moon (book)
• Fight Club over Fight Club (novel)
• To Catch a Thief over To Catch a Thief (novel)
• The Fox and the Hound over The Fox and the Hound (novel)
• Road to Perdition over Road to Perdition (comics)
• The Prestige over The Prestige (novel)
• The Exorcist over The Exorcist (novel)
• A Walk to Remember over A Walk to Remember (novel)
• The Godfather over The Godfather (novel)
• Jurassic Park over Jurassic Park (novel)
• The Descendants over The Descendants (novel)
• 12 Angry Men over Twelve Angry Men (Studio One)
• The Rescuers over The Rescuers (book)
• Just Mercy over Just Mercy (book)
• The Cider House Rules over The Cider House Rules (novel)
• Being There over Being There (novel)
• The Man with the Golden Arm over The Man with the Golden Arm (novel)
• The Bridges at Toko-Ri over The Bridges at Toko-ri (novel)
• From Here to Eternity over From Here to Eternity (novel)
• Random Hearts over Random Hearts (novel)
• The Object of My Affection over The Object of My Affection (novel)
• A Dry White Season over A Dry White Season (novel)
• Confess, Fletch over Confess, Fletch (novel)
• Me Before You over Me Before You (novel)
• You're a Big Boy Now over You're a Big Boy Now (novel)
• Bridget Jones's Diary over Bridget Jones's Diary (novel)

This isn't by any means an exhaustive list, just what I was able to find with a little bit of searching. Ladtrack (talk) 18:10, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

• Support. Clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:36, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

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