Talk:The Bloodline (professional wrestling)

Bloodline Members

I've noticed that Jey Uso was taken off of the member list and that The Usos are "former" members of the group, implying that the tag team split up. It has not been confirmed on WWE Television if Jey is still in the group, and stating that he is would just be speculation from his Instagram posts. I don't think that this is substantial confirmation? Wait until Raw or SmackDown? MikoMek (talk) 02:36, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

The Usos walked out on Reigns after Night of Champions 47.13.65.106 (talk) 03:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

The end of the bloodline 2001:8003:2468:3100:754A:1D72:1BCE:3E21 (talk) 05:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

This is premature, we don't know whether Jey might stay with Roman for a while or what kind of relationship Usos will have with Bloodline in future. We should wait for some more days. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 05:47, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

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OMG

Omg the collapse 81.98.250.230 (talk) 02:01, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Reception

We need to add a reception section to this page, especially with how repeatedly well-praised the storyline has been. JDC808 ♫ 02:02, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Factssss. --MikoMek (talk) 00:22, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

yes. I was thinking it. PWInsider has praised the storyline several times.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 07:42, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy's position in the Bloodline

We're having a complication where some members keep adding Jimmy back in the Bloodline based on his betrayal to Jey at SummerSlam. I haven't come across a reliable source that explicitly confirms he's back in the Bloodline nor does it explicitly state on any of WWE's official accounts that Jimmy rejoined the Bloodline. The best we can do is wait for the following SmackDown to find out where he really stands. How do we resolve this issue? TB Chigz (talk) 04:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso is back in the bloodline, it's been confirmed on Twitter. https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1688713599043129344 Summerslam2022 (talk) 14:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

The complication with that is even if it's from a reliable source, it doesn't explicitly confirm that he's back in the Bloodline. It only states that he's going to acknowledge the Tribal Chief, of which acknowledging the Tribal Chief and rejoining the Bloodline are two different things. We have many WWE personnel who acknowledge Roman Reigns, but are not in the Bloodline.

Besides, it's a future event that is not certain. Adding Jimmy Uso back in the Bloodline before it is officially confirmed is violating the WP:CRYSTALBALL rule, which states that Wikipedia is not a collection of presumptions, which is exactly what we're doing right now. My suggestion is unless there's a reliable source that CLEARLY confirms his return, we should not add him back in.

I think we should wait for SmackDown to see whether or not he is indeed back in the Bloodline.TB Chigz (talk) 06:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso isn't in the bloodline

Stop adding Jimmy uso as a member of the bloodline, it's not confirmed yet and the only way to get confirmation is by watching smackdown today. Summerslam2022 (talk) 22:27, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso officially not back in the Bloodline

Those who have watched the most recent episode of SmackDown, it was clearly evident that Jimmy Uso did not rejoin the Bloodline. His actions at SummerSlam had nothing to do with Roman Reigns or the Bloodline (which was seen by Reigns' reaction to the betrayal during the match). With that said, I suggest we stop adding Jimmy back in the Bloodline! TB Chigz (talk) 02:12, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Also, whoever keeps removing Sami Zayn from the timeline should stop it. He was an official honorary member, so there's no reason to exclude him from the stable's timeline. TB Chigz (talk) 02:14, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Jey Uso quits WWE

On August 11, 2023 Friday Night Smackdown, Jey quits WWE after superkicking Jimmy.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:240E:9800:5C29:610D:1EC3:F629 (talk) 03:32, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Jey Uso is back

Jey Uso is back at payback 2023 he newest member on raw roster, while splitting on Jimmy on Smackdown.2001:8003:240E:9800:F4C1:5CA4:A979:71AA (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Jimmy Uso Officially Back in the bloodline

Jimmy Uso is officially back in the bloodline and assaulting John Cena and AJ Styles on Friday 22, September 2023 episode of Smackdown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.43.219.54 (talk) 06:48, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

The Rock isn't officially in the Bloodline

The Rock isn't officially in the Bloodline, just because he slapped Cody Rhodes it doesn't mean he's apart of it. TheProWrestlingFanatic (talk) 12:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Agree, unless there's a source that explicitly states otherwise. I've requested page protection. — Czello ^(music) 12:41, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Agree it's like Iyo Sky joining the Kabuki Warriors because she turned on Bayley along with Asuka and Kairi Sane last week. She isn't officially in the Kabuki Warriors unless there's a source that explicitly states otherwise as well. Pikachu3408 (talk) 18:26, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

He's clearly in it. He's literally tagging "Bloodline" on his instagram posts and telling Cody that he and Roman Reigns are coming for him together. 108.250.209.38 (talk) 21:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Roman just said the rock is a member of the bloodline on smackdown. 2600:100B:B010:11D:39AA:49C9:A152:DD99 (talk) 02:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Tama Tonga joins The Bloodline and Jimmy Uso was kicked out of The Bloodline

Tama Tonga makes his debut on Smackdown as April 12, 2024, attacking Jimmy Uso, Turning Tonga into Heel in the process. Solo Sikoa betrayed Jimmy Uso with a stabbing Samoan Spkies. Sikoa with a Brutal running hip attack on Jimmy into the steel chair and injured Jimmy. Turning Jimmy face in the process and Jimmy was kicked out of The Bloodline. Tonga joins The Bloodline.

Incorrect information

The personnel and timeline information is incorrect. Paul Heyman is just the manager not the Tribal Chief. Roman is the Tribal Chief Kelran79 (talk) 04:17, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

The current status of The Bloodline...

So, as of this past Friday's SmackDown, it would seem the group is now down to just Solo Sikoa, Tama Tonga, & Paul Heyman (PROOF: WWE Draft 2024 results, round 3: The Bloodline stays on SmackDown; Note: the graphic the article uses shows Sikoa, Tonga, & Heyman referred to as The Bloodline). Roman Reigns is pretty much out indefinitely, and The Rock has gone back to filming whatever movie he's doing right now.

So, should the article be updated to reflect the current slimmed-down version of the group? ClarkKentWannabe (talk) 23:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Jacob Fatu joins The Bloodline

On Friday Night Smackdown on June 21, 2024, Jacob Fatu makes his WWE Debut and attacked Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton and Kevin Owens. Jacob attacked Owens on Samoan Drop onto the steel steps. Jacob attacked Orton with a Spear through the barricade. Jacob attacked Cody with a spine first on Ring Apron. Jacob with a Samoan Splash on Cody through the announce table. Turning Jacob into a heel in the process. Jacob Fatu joins The Bloodline. The New Bloodline has completed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:2419:B200:99F0:951F:DD1B:4F5E (talk) 02:47, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Paul Heyman as former member

Paul heyman was just kicked out of the ‘New Bloodline’, but he is still under a member. But the reason he still is is because he’s a member of the old one, not the new one, but if that’s that case then Jimmy uso should still be a ‘member’.

Haku's kids

Tama Tonga is his adoptive son. Hikuleo and Tanga Loa are his blood sons. 2603:9001:29F0:71B0:2445:21F5:1A7E:496E (talk) 15:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect. Tonga Loa is Hakus adopted son. Tama Tonga and Hikuleo are his blood. 2600:8801:2989:600:199F:63F9:B373:FDCF (talk) 02:08, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

The Rock

The Rock hasn't appeared for months and it's uncertain when he will. There's also uncertainly regarding his status as Bloodline member, we don't know how it will be upon his return. I suggest either removing him as a current member or describing him as a part-time member. I think the latter solution would be better to avoid confusion. Linkin Prankster (talk) 11:31, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

I think until we see him again, which we can't guarantee will happen (WP:CRYSTAL), we can't reasonably call him part-time, either. I've not seen any sources which support that wording, and we can only know if he's still a member (part-time or otherwise) if he actually returns and is still associated with them.

Consequently, I think we should say his membership of the Bloodline ended the night after WrestleMania. We can always add him back if he returns and things become more clear. — Czello ^(music) 11:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

He is literally a part-time wrestler. Linkin Prankster (talk) 12:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

That doesn't mean he's a part-time member of the Bloodline, still. Ultimately we don't know if he is still a member until he shows up again (which, again, may or may not happen). — Czello ^(music) 14:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Bloodline Factions.

I think we need to make the former members of the Bloodline like Reigns, Jimmy Uso, Heyman to also be a member of the bloodline, not “former”. Just separate them into two factions? One for Reigns’ stable and one for Sikoa’s. What do you all think? The Man Without Fear ^🦇 13:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely not. First off, such claims there are two Bloodlines are false. WWE do not acknowledge there being two Bloodlines. Secondly, It would be WP:OR to include as such, and I had to remove unsourced information saying the two groups had split into two when there is zero indication on WWE programming that is the case. Unless it actually takes place on TV it should not ever be included. Lemonademan22 (talk) 22:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Except it literally IS taking place on TV..... Old Bloodline vs New Bloodline is the War Games match they have been building to since August. JakeDHS07 (talk) 03:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

For proof they are even calling them as such now officially

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1855083479920148979 JakeDHS07 (talk) 03:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

This is not a reliable source. Lemonademan22 (talk) 12:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Their official Twitter account? Lmfaoooooo JakeDHS07 (talk) 21:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

You don't seem to know what a reliable source is. Why don't you read Wikipedia:Reliable sources before trying to crack a few jokes? Lemonademan22 (talk) 11:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

This also a good read if you want to know what a reliable source is, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources. Lemonademan22 (talk) 11:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

That does not mean we need to create an entirely new article on the "Old Bloodline". It needs to be thoroughly sourced. Just because they are building a feud does not mean there are two seperate factions. Again, there is no evidence on WWE programming of this occuring. At Crown Jewel Roman Reigns and The Usos were not referred to as the "Old Bloodline", they were only called "Roman Reigns and The Usos". Lemonademan22 (talk) 12:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

While I agree to all the points given here (that Roman’s not YET officially recognized faction again), We don’t really need to create a new article for the old Bloodline, I do not know how you come up with that. I am suggesting that we need to specify to this article that there are two Bloodline factions happening today, especially now that WWE.com released an official merch for the OG Bloodline.

https://shop.wwe.com/en/the-bloodline/o-3422099226+t-7856229507+z-9-1875929703?_s=tw-sclmp-WWEShop&utm_campaign=WWEShop-US-EN-ORG-WWE-WWE_Bloodline_OG_TW_WWE_WWE_Bloodline_OG_&utm_content=E=PRODUCT-WWEWWE_Bloodline_OG_&utm_term=S=ORG%7CD=WWEShop%7CL=WWE%7CT=WWE_WWE_Bloodline_OG_%7CA=BothGenders%7CC=US%7CB=BidCap%7CH=Owned%7CG=EN&utm_medium=social The Man Without Fear ^🦇 17:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

No of course we don't need to create a new article. I was merely using hyperbole to get my point across. However, I still stand by we shouldn't. There is no two incarnations of The Bloodline, a t-shirt being sold is not a reliable source, WWE still have not said on programming that Reigns' "OG Bloodline" (which is just a group of former members) is a different incarnation. And even if they did we should not put two incarnations of The Bloodline in this article as it will quickly descend into chaos and is very much up to every user's interpretation. Especially when this article had to be extended confirmed protected so disruptive editing could stop as it was rampant.

In short, it's not confirmed at the moment, they are just a bunch of ex-Bloodine members, not going by the name "The OG Bloodline", just ex-members, and even if that was the case I still think not as this article would descend into chaos as it is up to the individual's interpretation which is not how which isn't how Wikipedia is meant to operate. So that is my reasoning as to why I think it is a bad idea and why it should not happen. Lemonademan22 (talk) 17:44, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

In fact, the article exists. The OG Bloodline (professional wrestling) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

It's only got one source in the ENTIRE page which is 10,000 bytes. It only proves my point. On top of that only IP accounts and autoconfirmed editors are editing it. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

This is an article I feel should not exist and should be merged into this article. — Czello ^(music) 00:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree. But I don't think they should be featured in the "members" section. Since, well, they aren't members of the actual Bloodline. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

While at this moment, I actually agree with you. I made this comment earlier and it seems that today they are not YET officially recognized factions. But I think eventually they will become a faction separate to Solo’s. Or Solo’s will eventually disband and Roman’s will take over again. The Man Without Fear ^🦇 10:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Whatever happens it will need to happen first before it can be added. Lemonademan22 (talk) 11:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Not only that. Commentary by Michael Cole and some sources (Sean Ross Sapp, SI) affirms that such as this one from SI.com. Correct me if i'm wrong. Modus touch (talk) 15:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

If it's confirmed there is an alternate Bloodline faction, I recommend we don't create a new article for it and instead incorporate it into here. There is precedent for this already: for example, we never created a separate article for nWo Wolfpac, and instead we distinguish them within the article.

Similarly, DX briefly split into two versions in 1999, but we still keep it as one article (albeit that was far shorter and less notable than Wolfpac).

I'm also reminded of a time, long ago on Wikipedia, when the black metal band Gorgoroth had a dispute over who owned the rights to the name. The band split into two – essentially there were two Gorgoroths for a time. We didn't create a separate article for either, instead we represented both in the same article. This is how we presented the membership; two versions of the same band. Of course, the big difference here is that this was a real-life thing and the Bloodline split is a storyline, but I think this is the best way to go about it.

If after this "civil war" is over there are clearly two different factions then we could create a separate article; but while they're both claming to be the Bloodline we should keep it all in one place. — Czello ^(music) 18:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I think this is the most sensible option after all. Why create two seperate articles on one faction? If there is two seperate incarnations, which there isn't at the moment, but if it is later confirmed by WWE and can be backed up with reliable sources then we can put them in the same article. However, even if they are called "The OG Bloodline", which they are not on TV at the moment, but if they are I still think there should be caution as to wether we do list them as seperate. Lemonademan22 (talk) 16:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Last episode of Smackdown like 10 hours ago they are now called the OG Bloodline. And I agree with all things said here and that is why I made this thread, we do not need to create a new article but just have two separate factions here. The Man Without Fear ^🦇 13:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

PS Someone already made changes to the members section of this article but did not bother editing the other sections here. If we all agree that their edit in the section is accepted then I guess we should clean the whole article especially the intro sections. The Man Without Fear ^🦇 13:02, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

They made changes and did not notify anybody. The changes were Unsourced. I have removed them. Lemonademan22 (talk) 15:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I still disagree with putting two seperate factions here. It has never been done on any article before and I think it's also a case of WP:FANCRUFT which isn't allowed. Lemonademan22 (talk) 15:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

There is one with the Hart Foundation if you search it on Wiki, yes I know there are more than 2 on there. 4.96.100.93 (talk) 05:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

That is very different. Those are different incarnations in different time periods with sporadically different people and they are well sourced. This isn't, "The OG Bloodline" is comprised of ex-Bloodline members from the same time period as the actual Bloodline and has no evidence of existing, thus not being well sourced. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:53, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Date of creation of the faction

The date of creation of the faction used on the page is july 9th 2021, the date were Roman and both Usos were officially on the same page as heels. But Jey, Roman and Paul Heyman were already forming "The Bloodline" before that, weren't they ? And what about their short stint as a trio in late 2015 ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by AceBi-Ly (talk • contribs) 01:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

The Bloodline officially formed on the date stated in the article. As for Roman and The Usos performing as a trio years previously, they were just a trio, not a group or faction, just a nameless trio that didn't last long. Lemonademan22 (talk) 22:26, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Bronson Reed

It's looking like Bronson Reed joined the bloodline since at the end of the segment on smackdown he put the ones up and on the SmackDown lowdown bloodline segment it was just the bloodline and not the bloodline and Bronson Reed so he should be added to the members list at the very least as an associate Cheesebanana432 (talk) 20:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

We don't do associates in stable articles. To add him as a member we'll need a reliable source that explicitly calls him one. More likely is that he's just joining them for the Survivor Series match. — Czello ^(music) 20:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Please, don't start again wth the associate stuff... --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

This article is extended confirmed protected for a reason. Lemonademan22 (talk) 13:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Tonight's SmackDown kicked off and the ring announcer announced Bronson alongside the entire Bloodline name-by-name, and introduced them all together AS the Bloodline. So, is that a confirmation? HygorHubner (talk) 01:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

No that is still WP:OR, we need a reliable source stating that Reed is a member of The Bloodline. Lemonademan22 (talk) 12:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

At this point, we should learn the alliances relatives to survivor series, war games, multi tag matches are just short alliances. We had the same issue last year with Drew McIntyre as member of Judgment Day or two years ago with Ripley and Nikki Cross as part of Damage Control. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:22, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Exactly. I highly doubt Reed will have any affiliation with The Bloodline past Survivor Series: War Games. Lemonademan22 (talk) 13:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

No info on OG Bloodline

Michel Cole is using the name of OG Bloodline to denote the group headed by the OTC Roman Reigns. Yet this article does not mention that at all. Can someone edit the article? 2601:14D:4F83:9010:DA75:5B84:587B:734F (talk) 22:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

No. Just because it is being used on TV doesn't mean it is a seperate group. The "OG Bloodline" is only made up of ex-Bloodline members. We need a reliable source before adding it. Lemonademan22 (talk) 23:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Sounds more like it's a nickname an announcer is using for the benefit of the audience, rather than it being an official name of any kind. I'd like to see them introduced as this or called it on a match card before we start using it. — Czello ^(music) 06:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

It reminds me of when the WCW announcers called the WCW World Heavyweight Championship the "NWO Heavyweight Championship". It was never an official name for the title, it was only referred to as that by fans and the announcers. Lemonademan22 (talk) 17:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Solo Sikoa Leaving The Bloodline

I watched SmackDown earlier and Solo Sikoa leave the Bloodline, so it means the sign of breaking of The Bloodline 2.0? Royiswariii Talk! 06:52, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

As mentioned previously on this talk page (which I see has been archived) "The OG Bloodline" "The Bloodline 2.0" or "The New Bloodline" doesn't exist. Merely because it's WP:OR and still no reliable sources have ever backed up the name change. It's just one Bloodline. As for Sikoa leaving, right now it's too early to edit anything so this falls under speculation which we can't edit based of off. Lemonademan22 (talk) 14:38, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Solo Sikoa Wikipedia page

In his page, it's noted that's Jacob Fatu removed Sikoa out of The Bloodline 176.157.0.8 (talk) 11:19, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

New Tag Team in the Bloodline (unofficial name)

Tama Tonga & Jacob Fatu form a tag team in the Bloodline named The Islanders, but, its not official OTCbot245 (talk) 19:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

The Bloodline is back under the control of Roman and Usos

In January, WWE has decided to remove "The Bloodline" name from Solo Sikoa's group. Can we update that to reflect it? Solo's faction is not The Bloodline anymore since Roman took back the Ula Fala from him at the Raw Netflix debut episode.

https://wrestlingheadlines.com/possible-spoiler-on-wwe-rebranding-the-bloodline-changing-solo-sikoas-group-name/ 174.95.170.65 (talk) 03:15, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 March 2025

With OUR TRIBAL CHIEF, Roman Reigns winning the Ula Fala after their match, he is now the current leader. 2600:8801:2989:600:199F:63F9:B373:FDCF (talk) 02:06, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 21:02, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

It seems The Bloodline is officially disbanded

Since Solo Sikoa's group stopped using "The Bloodline" name on-air, can anyone edit that The Bloodline officially broke up when Paul Heyman turned on Roman Reigns? 76.70.57.41 (talk) 22:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 May 2025

I want to add Jeff Cobb to the members because he helped Fatu win as well as solo Marrazzolovin56 (talk) 01:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 03:56, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Add Jeff Cobb

Cobb now a member following Backlash 2025 134.41.123.73 (talk) 10:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 May 2025

After talking about Jeff Cobb's debut, add that on the May 16 SmackDown, Cobb, now known as JC Mateo, officially joined the group. He later helped Sikoa qualify for the 2025 Money in the Bank ladder match in a qualifying match against Dragon Lee and Jimmy Uso. 151.124.105.47 (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

References

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Dahawk04 (talk) 14:38, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Add Jeff Cobb

Add as "JC Mateo (not official)" AvgeekInSpain (talk) 14:16, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

We don't include non official or associates anymore. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Seconding this. There's no reason to consider Jeff Cobb as non-official or an associate. Linkin Prankster (talk) 23:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Put Bronson Reed as a temporary member of The Bloodline.

On the 15 November 2024 episode of SmackDown, Reed aligned himself with The Bloodline (Solo Sikoa, Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa, and Jacob Fatu), revealing himself as the fifth member for their WarGames team against Roman Reigns, Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, and Sami Zayn. At Survivor Series: WarGames on 30 November, Reed and The Bloodline lost to Reigns, The Usos, Zayn and CM Punk in the match. After the event, it was revealed Reed suffered a foot injury during the match, putting him out of action for an undisclosed amount of time. BreezyB1 (talk) 02:22, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

No. We don't include associates anymore. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 07:54, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Aligning with them for a WarGames match doesn't mean he's a member. — Czello ^(music) 07:59, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

New name

Should the page now be known ad My Family Tree of MFT as Solo confirmed his faction is different to the Bloodline? 78.141.30.68 (talk) 12:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

I think it should be changed to that… when they started getting announced as MFT. I’m still unsure about that due to MFT being the former nickname of Tama Tonga. Thatoneguylol101 (talk) 10:06, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

It would need to be backed up with sources, I doubt a name change of the article would be allowed, as The Bloodline is certainley the WP:COMMONNAME. Lemonademan22 (talk) 10:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

I don't know if MFT is a separate stable from The Bloodline. Anyway, The Bloodline has been the most important storyline in the last 20 years. The center of WWE since 2021. So, it's the WP:COMMONNAME. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:18, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

I have an idea. This article should be focusing on Roman Reigns' side while Solo's faction could be created under the article "MFT (professional wrestling)" which dates to Solo's leadership post-WMXL. Hell, this iteration is no longer together since Paul Heyman turned on Roman to side with Seth at WrestleMania 41 Night 1 while The Usos and Sami Zayn have focused on their singles careers. @HHH Pedrigree, @Lemonademan22: Like I said, this stable, Roman's iteration, was finally broken up at WM41. 184.146.187.43 (talk) 17:10, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

That's pretty much all original research and conjecture. That isn't allowed, unless you have reliable sources to back up your claims, we can't do that. Lemonademan22 (talk) 17:16, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Not quite frankly. A report from ITR Wrestling confirms the January 2025 report that Solo's faction has dropped "The Bloodline" moniker after Roman Reigns regained the ula fala and the "Tribal Chief" title on the WWE Raw premiere on Netflix back in January. Hence, the WWE officially referred to Solo's faction as "MFT" now (see also Fightful report) -- 184.146.187.43 (talk) 17:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Solo's faction has dropped "The Bloodline" moniker after Roman Reigns regained the ula fala and the "Tribal Chief" title on the WWE Raw premiere on Netflix back in January. That's original research, neither source say that to be the case. Lemonademan22 (talk) 18:14, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Sorry I was late. The source I wrote is coming from WrestleVotes Backstage Pass who has their presence on Pateron and SportsKeeda NOT WP:OR. @Lemonademan22, this issue can be also discussed in the project page. 184.146.187.43 (talk) 15:42, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Proposed split

I'd proposed this article to be split into MFT (professional wrestling) with the establishment of April 12, 2024 since Roman's iteration was on hiatus after WrestleMania XL but reunited as "OG Bloodline" in late 2024. Do you support or oppose? Can this source be confirmed or not: 184.146.187.43 (talk) 17:18, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

No, it's too soon, not even been a week this "stable" has existed, plus The Bloodline is the common name. Also we've already established here that the "OG Bloodline" doesn't exist, so no to that idea too. Lemonademan22 (talk) 18:16, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

I agree, it should be split. On the July 11th episode of Smackdown, Solo Sikoa actually said that there is no more Bloodline, which would confirm that the group has indeed come to an end and this new faction, MFT has taken its place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.236.62 (talk) 09:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

That's WP:OR. Lemonademan22 (talk) 10:05, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Add sub-groups MFT, Bloodline 2.0, and OG Bloodline - 15 July 2025

Change the “sub groups” section. Change the “current” part to include the newest / current form of the faction. My Family Tree (MFT) as officially recognized by WWE, contains Solo Sikoa, Tonga Loa, Talla Tonga, and JC Mateo. Note this does NOT include Tama Tonga yet, but this may obviously change, as Tama Tonga has yet to return and either align or not align with MFT. Also change the “former” section of sub-groups to include “The Bloodline 2.0”, this group included Solo Sikoa, Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa, Jacob Fatu, and Bronson Reed, who could also be listed as an honorary/temporary member for WarGames in a superscript note. This group was active from in my opinion April 12 2024 when Tama Tonga debuted, to Jan 6 2025 when Solo lost Tribal Combat and the Tribal Chief moniker. Maybe even add “OG Bloodline” active in 2024 with Roman, Sami, Jey, Jimmy, and Paul. Active from Aug 3 2024 to Nov 30 2024. Nickjudkins (talk) 00:56, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

We're not adding any of these, for the following reasons.

1. MFT is not notable as of this moment, even if it was "WWE shows" isn't a reliable source.

2. We don't do associates and "The Bloodline 2.0" is literally just The Bloodline, all the previous members had been removed, with the new ones joining, that's still The Bloodline.

3. You said: "in my opinion" we don't do original research either.

4. All the other sources noted are not reliable per WP:PW/RS.

5. It would be francruft. Lemonademan22 (talk) 07:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

Agree with Lemonademan22, Bloodline 2.0 I can't see sourced at all and "OG Bloodline" was more of a nickname than an official monicker. "MFT" I don't have an opinion on; I don't watch WWE week to week atm so I'm not up-to-date with that name. — Czello ^(music) 07:34, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

@Lemonademan22 I disagree as well as the points @Czello said. Did you hear Lillian Garcia said "MFT" at SNME last weekend? This confirms it as its coming from WWE. -- 184.146.187.43 (talk) 20:44, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

I heard. But there's no source. Lemonademan22 (talk) 21:53, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

I am not objecting to the users above me but this article needs to be restructured like the Bullet Club. BL exists in two brands. 184.146.187.43 (talk) 20:46, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

It doesn't really, that would also be a logistical nightmare, again no reliable source has been given for any of this. There is literally no point in expanding the article to accomedate your suggestion. It is one group. Lemonademan22 (talk) 21:52, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

Then discuss here. 184.146.187.43 (talk) 21:22, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

References

It's called MFT now

So why doesn't it say "MFT, previously known as The Bloodline"? It says that for the House Of Black wiki Fortnitecheese88 (talk) 14:23, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

The Bloodline on Raw

Since we have two iterations under the same stable, we need to treat it like the nWo. Like @Fortnitecheese88 said, the MFT subgroup is on SmackDown, while the original subgroup, that iteration with Roman and Usos is on Raw, as we saw last night taking out The Vision (Bronson Reed and Bron Breakker). 142.126.239.252 (talk) 14:43, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

I agree in principle, but it might be a little early to say that Roman and the Usos have officially reunited. Charles Essie (talk) 10:12, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

@Charles Essie We already have a consensus, established last year that there is no "original Bloodline" or iteration as such. Just fans and commentators speculation. You can read it near the top: Talk:The Bloodline (professional wrestling)#Bloodline Factions. I don't like repeating it, as I've had to do it often. But it leads to a lot unsourced claims and original research if not. Lemonademan22 (talk) 22:23, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

Bronson Reed

Should Reed be added to members for his time with The Bloodline during Wargames ‘24? They never confirmed if he was or wasn’t. But he seemed well into the group and it seems kind of strange not to acknowledge him as a member if he wasn’t in that match otherwise why was he REALLY there? ~2025-32182-19 (talk) 23:22, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Wargames always puts groups of people together; that doesn't mean they're officially members of a faction. — Czello ^(music) 09:11, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

Why isn't Jey USO named intercontinental champion

you have everyone accolades other than Jey USO single championship ~2025-41298-21 (talk) 12:25, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

We include titles won during their time as part of the stable. Uso left The Bloodline in 2023 and won the title in 2024. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:00, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Split the article into MFT

Since Roman Reigns has "The Bloodline" name after regaining the ula fala on the Raw Netflix premiere, this article should focus on Roman's side due to his feud with CM Punk. The article MFT (professional wrestling) needs to be its own page since that iteration was established in 2024 under "The New Bloodline" name led by Solo Sikoa and took on the MFT identity in July 2025. Do you support or oppose? This isn't the same stable though but a split will distinguish between Roman's faction and Solo's faction. Hence, The Bloodline name is still used on WWE Shop for merchandising purposes. AbbaszaGoat (talk) 04:00, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Well, take into consideration other stables changed the formation, but no split took place. For example, nWo (Hogan, Nash, Hall) and many other nWo (Jarrett and the Harris). Or Bullet club. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:34, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

I think we should wait and see a little bit longer. It looks to me like either Solo or Tama may soon be kicked out and if it's the former, all future developments should be in the The Tongans article. Charles Essie (talk) 21:45, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 April 2026

Roman Reigns looks set to reshape The Bloodline with power struggles and shifting loyalties ahead.

The faction’s future could hinge on internal clashes and a new leader emerging to challenge his dominance. Noman.c786 (talk) 14:19, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Czello ^(music) 14:22, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Split the MTF

Now that the Original Bloodline is back on Raw, shouldn't the MFT part be a separate page? ~2026-24581-75 (talk) 13:33, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

Absolutely not. "The Original Bloodline" doesn't exist, the MFTs and The Bloodline are the same faction just different names and different members. Also that would require a lot of sourcing in order to prove otherwise. Lemonademan22 (talk) 14:56, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

I can open the RfC if that is the case for wveryone. Cheers! ~2026-23271-06 (talk) 19:06, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

See the RfC below, ~2026-23271-06 (talk) 19:49, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

RfC: The Bloodline vs MFT

@Lemonademan22's inequitable paradox of this article insists that they are the same faction. But they are not. So let's gets the record straight, this article needs to be split and restructured per WP:SPLIT on its own article titled MFT (professional wrestling) which that faction was formed on July 4, 2025 and all members of that group prior to that date joining it similar to how Wade Barrett formed The Corre after he, Justin Gabriel and Heath Slater were exiled from The Nexus by CM Punk.

A background of the group after WrestleMania XL:

Solo Sikoa began a hostile takeover of this group by seizing control of it after WrestleMania XL on April 12, 2024 through the additions of Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa (Camacho) and Jacob Fatu and the purges of Jimmy Uso and Paul Heyman as well as usurping Roman Reigns' leadership calling themselves The New Bloodline or The Bloodline per commentary. But after Reigns returned at SummerSlam, he gathered The Usos and Sami Zayn reforming themselves as The OG Bloodline fighting off Sikoa's Bloodline at Survivor Series: War Games in 2024, but their feud ended at the Raw on Netflix debut in January 2025 where Roman regained the Ula Fala and the rights to The Bloodline name while the "OG" epiphet was phased out but Heyman continued to ally with Reigns until WrestleMania 41. After Jeff Cobb (JC Mateo) and Hikuleo (Talla Tonga) joined Sikoa's unnamed group which the commentators did not mention The Bloodline name, the remaining members including Sikoa and Tongans (minus Jacob Fatu) all left the group and became the MFT on July 4, 2025. For much of late 2025, The Bloodline (Roman and Usos) then feuded with The Vision before seeing themselves again from March 2026 in a buildup for his World Title match against CM Punk at WrestleMania 42, which he won on the second night. Then the night after on Raw, The Bloodline formally reunited under Roman's previous theme song.

That settles it. Anyone is open for discussion by anyone supporting the restructuring and split or oppose the move. The change is neccessary to avoid confusion (see WP:CONFUSE). We might as well blow this up and start over again. ~2026-23271-06 (talk) 19:48, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

• Agree with procedural close: The opening statement is not neutral. -- Otr500 (talk) 14:21, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Where are the sources? Why are you using real verbage describing a fictional event? Per consensus reached on this page "the OG Bloodline" do not exist. I don't see any point in splitting the article. The MFTs is the same group as The Bloodline, with different members and a different name. Also there's nothing to point to "The OG Bloodline" (just Reigns and The Usos) reforming or becoming a group again, that's all speculation. Lemonademan22 (talk) 20:46, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

Then look up WWE.com and their official social media channels as well as many wrestling websites from journalists and mainstream sports website including ESPN if you insist.

If any of them are reliable or not, then none of them have yet to be eligible for deprecated. ~2026-23271-06 (talk) 21:30, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

If you want to add the content, you have to provide the sources to back what you're saying up. Lemonademan22 (talk) 22:09, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

Just a second. @Czello @HHH Pedrigree could anyone help out here. Perhaps we need some small assistance. ~2026-23271-06 (talk) 23:38, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello. My opinion. I think we shoulnd't split the article. The source used in the article Fightful, says "Solo Sikoa had a vignette, where he introduced this new iteration of The Bloodline as MFT (My Family Tree)." PWTorch also says it's a new name for the Bloodline, not a new stable. PWTorch also mentions it's the same stable here Prowrestlingdotcom also mentions it's the same stable Same for Wrestleview . Curious, Figure4 also credits the stable as The Bloodline, while MFT was a nickname for Tama Tonga. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:46, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

I see and true. In the coming weeks, we'll have to wait if the commentators will call that group consisting of the reunited Roman and Usos "The Bloodline" again because he reclaimed the name from Solo at the Raw on Netflix debut episode.

However, this article can be reorganized a bit to include Roman and Usos iteration much like Bullet Club is. ~2026-23271-06 (talk) 10:25, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

I appreciate your enthusiasm. But please wait. Lemonademan22 (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

Its confirmed. They started using a quartet of Roman, Usos and Jacob as "The Bloodline" on air again. ~2026-32651-73 (talk) 22:39, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

• Quick procedural close unless the opening statement is changed to actually attempt to follow WP:RFCNEUTRAL. ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 06:29, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
• Agree with procedural close (Summoned by bot): The opening statement is not neutral. If the Nom doesn't refactor, just close it. -- Otr500 (talk) 14:21, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

JC and loa are gonna

They had left the company ~2026-19411-45 (talk) 15:45, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

Why are the MFTs counted as the Bloodline

Solo said in the first promo when they formed that the MFTs are nothing like the Bloodline, which means they're a different faction so they shouldn't be included. It stopped being the Bloodline like a year ago when Jacob left the group Fortnitecheese88 (talk) 22:48, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Read above. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 07:41, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

They were called Bloodline originally. Linkin Prankster (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

The MFTs need their own page

now that jacob has joined the OG Bloodline this is a faction, the current bloodline needs a page or MFT needs to be split apart because these are 2 different things. ~2026-32689-69 (talk) 18:24, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-32689-69 You are right Nicolemarteau (talk) 18:26, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-32689-69 You are right Nicolemarteau (talk) 18:26, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

PLEASE CREATE MFTs OWN WIKIPEDIA PAGE

I don’t know if you know that during Solo-Roman storyline, if Roman beats Solo, The Bloodline was for him, and he did so I don’t know why when The Bloodline got renamed as The MFTs, you didn’t create their own Wikipedia page Nicolemarteau (talk) 18:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Now there is literally proof that The Bloodline and the MFTs are different factions

They've started billing Roman, The Usos and Jacob as the Bloodline while the MFTs are actively still a thing. So they aren't the same faction so shouldn't be on the same article Fortnitecheese88 (talk) 19:04, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 June 2026

1. 1: Change 1st paragraph: "The MFTs, formerly known as The Bloodline, is a villainous professional wrestling stable that performs in WWE on the SmackDown brand. The stable consists of second leader Solo Sikoa and The Tongans (Tama Tonga and Talla Tonga). The original name of the stable is in reference to the majority of the group initially being members of the Anoaʻi family of Samoan professional wrestlers."

to: "The Bloodline is a villainous professional wrestling stable that performs in WWE. The stable consists of two warring factions: The ("OG") Bloodline, led by Roman Reigns, and The MFTs, led by Solo Sikoa. "The Bloodline" name is in reference to the majority of the group initially being members of the Anoaʻi family of Samoan professional wrestlers.

1. 2: Change the info box on the right:

Leader Solo Sikoa Members Tama Tonga Talla Tonga Name(s) The Bloodline The MFTs[1] Billed heights Solo Sikoa: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Tama Tonga: 6 ft 0 in (1.83 m) Talla Tonga: 6 ft 8 in (2.03 m) Former members See below Debut July 9, 2021 Years active 2021–present

To: Leader(s) Roman Reigns ("OG" Bloodline) Solo Sikoa (The MFTs) Members Jey Uso ("OG" Bloodline) Jimmy Uso ("OG" Bloodline) Jacob Fatu ("OG" Bloodline) Tama Tonga (The MFTs) Talla Tonga (The MFTs) Name(s) The Bloodline The MFTs Billed heights Roman Reigns: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Jey Uso: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Jimmy Uso: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Jacob Fatu: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Solo Sikoa: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Tama Tonga: 6 ft 0 in (1.83 m) Talla Tonga: 6 ft 8 in (2.03 m) Former members See below Debut July 9, 2021 Years active 2021–present

1. 3: Change title "Solo Sikoa's leadership (2024–present)" to "Solo Sikoa's leadership of his "New" Bloodline (2024–present)"

1. 4: Change "At SummerSlam, Sikoa lost to Rhodes in a Bloodline Rules match for the Undisputed WWE Championship following interference by the returning Roman Reigns."

to: "At SummerSlam, Sikoa lost to Rhodes in a Bloodline Rules match for the Undisputed WWE Championship following interference by the returning Roman Reigns, who returned under the new moniker "The O.T.C" ("The Only Tribal Chief" or "The Original Tribal Chief")"

1. 5: Change title "Rebrand as MFT (2025–present)" to "Solo Sikoa's Bloodline rebrand as MFT (2025-present)"

1. 6: Add new History section at the bottom titled: "Reunification of the "OG" Bloodline (2026-present)" ~2026-32754-69 (talk) 01:35, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Day Creature (talk) 13:57, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

See below ~2026-32651-73 (talk) 14:07, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

You say "see below" but there aren't any sources provided there either. I'm sure there are wrestling publications that are covering this, so if you just provide them, the article can be updated. Day Creature (talk) 14:57, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Page needs to be updated

The current iteration of The Bloodline consists of Roman Reigns, Jacob Fatu, Jimmy Uso, and Jey Uso. Meanwhile, Solo Sikoa has branched off into his own faction known as "MFT" (My Family Tree), which currently features himself, Tama Tonga, and Talla Tonga.

Because Solo Sikoa is no longer the Tribal Chief, he has forfeited any claim or right to the Bloodline name. The shift in power is so definitive that WWE commentators and even LA Knight explicitly refer to the collective unit of Roman, Jimmy, Jey, and Jacob as the true Bloodline.

According to the stable's roster the faction underwent massive changes throughout 2025 and early 2026:

* The Fallout: Former associates like Tonga Loa and JC Mateo were released from WWE on May 2, 2026, officially leaving Solo's circle.
* The "MFT" Era: As detailed in this Wikipedia page, Solo's group began using the "MFT" acronym after Night of Champions in June 2025. While Solo and Tama Tonga found success by winning the WWE Tag Team Championship in January 2026, they dropped the titles 56 days later in March.
* The True Bloodline The OG Bloodline defeated the new bloodline members for WarGames 2024 at Survivor Series WarGames 2024 on November 30, 2024. Roman defeated Solo for the Tribal Chief title on the Raw Netflix debut on January 6, 2025. Jacob Fatu faced Roman Reigns at Backlash 2026 on May 2, 2026 and at Clash in Italy 2026 on May 31, 2026. Following a definitive loss to Roman in a Tribal Combat match at Clash in Italy. Solo, Tama, and Tala were in attendance for the Roman vs. Jacob Clash match. After Roman won, he taunted the MFTs in the crowd, telling them he had a plan for them too. On June 1, 2026 episode of Monday Night Raw, Fatu was forced to acknowledge Reigns as his Tribal Chief, officially aligning himself with Roman and The Usos. With the original core of Roman, Jimmy, and Jey reunited and reinforced by Jacob Fatu, the Bloodline name has officially stayed with the Original Tribal Chief, leaving Solo and his remaining Tongans entirely separate. ~2026-32533-08 (talk) 04:28, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Nah, we don't know if it's a temporary alliance like they did in past at WarGames. Unless it soldifies there's no reason to add it. WWE hasn't said The Bloodline is back, besides we don't know if they might start feuding again after King of the Ring tournament. Linkin Prankster (talk) 07:30, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

They also affirmed it on the air again. When Adam Pearce booked Penta vs Rey for the IC title, LA Knight mentioned The Bloodline name in a backstage segment to Pearce yesterday when the Raw crew was in Turin. So that sums up the situation. ~2026-32651-73 (talk) 10:21, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

They've been calling Reigns and Usos "Bloodline" even before despite them not being a stable. Besides LA Knight never actually mentioned the "Bloodline" as a stable. Linkin Prankster (talk) 12:08, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Even so, we need reliable sources. Lemonademan22 (talk) 12:09, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Agreed, WWE hasn't confirmed a new stable yet. Linkin Prankster (talk) 12:14, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

If you go to one of WWE's social media platforms, @Linkin Prankster @Lemonademan22 bear with me: WWE has been using the Bloodline name for the last few days even on the Raw podcast shorts on YouTube. ~2026-33096-41 (talk) 20:20, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

They've been calling Reigns and Usos "Bloodline" even before despite them not being a stable.

Please read my comment again. You can wait a few weeks to see whether they're really back as a stable or it's a temporary alliance like in the past. Linkin Prankster (talk) 20:42, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

How do you determine when it's official if "The Bloodline" is just a name they use for Roman and the Usos? By that logic, you could argue that either they've always or never been a stable. If we're not taking WWE's word for it, then how do we confirm anything? Charles Essie (talk) 02:52, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

On the show Adam Pearce explicitly says to LA Knight he does not want to put the Bloodline back together. Also Bloodline has been used as a name whenever Reigns and Usos are in the same ring. Nothing new. Linkin Prankster (talk) 16:21, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

References