Talk:Snack Time!

Please send me the words for this draft for Renee Choba?

Hi I was never notified that this had been undeleted. I am still working on developing articles for all notable women electronic lit writers. I would love to have even the old words to this article so that I can figure out why it was rejected. We have had a systemic pattern of draft articles about notable women writers in electronic literature rejected. I have submitted a proposal for the November conference to go over all drafts of all of the women electronic lit writers that were rejected. This November editathon would help us understand the underlying issues and improve articles. Thank you. LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 01:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for undeleting this article.

I see that we do not have enough citations for this to be a notable article at the moment. I have copied this into our draft outside of Wikipedia so that you can free up space.

We will edit this to determine the best way to showcase the notable works (probably within the interactive fiction article and list)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoveElectronicLiterature (talk • contribs) 06:28, June 15, 2023 (UTC)

IMO, the subject of this article meets notability requirements if the subject were changed from Renee Choba (the co-author) to the work ("Snack Time!") so I'm going to make the move. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:29, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Oh thank you. That is a good plan as many seminal interactive fiction (IF) works have their own listing. LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 17:05, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Categories and infobox

LoveElectronicLiterature, I'm not sure what additional categories should be added to this article and what else to add in the infobox, so reaching out to you as you are an expert in this area. Other articles in Category:2000s interactive fiction, which might give inspiration, include Rendition (text adventure game) and Shade (interactive fiction) and Unauthorized Termination (interactive fiction). Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

As interactive fiction is a subset of the much wider electronic literature genre, could we add that overarching category (See also electronic literature) to IF? LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 17:05, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

LoveElectronicLiterature, regarding, "...could we add that overarching category (See also electronic literature) to IF...", do you mean you want to add a category of Category:Electronic literature or Category:Interactive fiction‎ to the Snack Time article? Or do you want to add an additional category to another article, if so, which article are you referring to? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:24, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Concerns about notability

I have concerns that this article may not meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for video games.

Previous discussion on this talk page has already raised concerns about the lack of sufficient citations to establish notability. In particular, it appears that the subject does not have enough significant coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources.

According to Wikipedia’s general notability guideline (WP:GNG) and WP:VG, a topic requires substantial coverage in reliable sources such as professional reviews or in-depth analysis. At present, such coverage is not clearly demonstrated in the article.

Therefore, the notability of this subject remains uncertain, and additional high-quality sources would be necessary to justify its inclusion. Guwiqiie (talk) 06:41, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

This is an endemic problem in interactive fiction, video games, electronic literature, etc. In many cases, reviews from Interactive Fiction Database, etc. are the notable reviews in the field. We need to have a systemic discussion with administrators about notable sources for these types of works. I am trying to develop a list of notable sources in WP:ELIT. Who should we contact? What would be the best way to approach this systematically? @Rosiestep LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

As Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronic literature is a sibling project of Wikipedia:Literature (I think), have you tried connecting with those editors? That project was established in 2005, so they have a lot of experience with establishing notability for various lit genres. If WP:ELIT is not a sibling project of WP:LIT, should it be? Or maybe a sibling project to another WikiProject (or in addition to)? It's been my experience that being part of and engaging with a larger on-wiki community brings benefits regarding the articles we write, e.g., talkpage conversations, the development of relationships, AfD notifications, etc. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:50, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Even though I replied here, and even though I am an Admin, IMHO, I don't think ... a systemic discussion with administrators ... is relevant. The discussion needs to be with community members. Perhaps focus on developing Wikipedia:Notability (ELIT) similar to other WP:GNG subtypes, such as Wikipedia:Notability (books). --Rosiestep (talk) 14:57, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

How does one go about establishing specific notability guidelines for a topic area? I guess start a subpage at the WikiProject where we draft it, and have a discussion on the WikiProject talk page - and then maybe a Request for Comments or something? It would certainly be useful. Lijil (talk) 20:27, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I have done some research and have created a draft page for Wikipedia:Notability (ELIT). I have asked the elit community to comment, and we will discuss this at our upcoming editathon on April 16 and then maybe a Request for Comments? I would rather the electronic lit community weigh in first though, as ours is an odd little field at the juncture of web and books. LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 21:13, 9 April 2026 (UTC)