Talk:Shoulder problems
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This article contains text taken from the public domain document "Questions and Answers about Shoulder Problems", NIH Publication No. 01-4865, available from URL http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/shoulderprobs/shoulderqa.htm
Requested move 10 March 2021
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vaticidalprophet (talk) 12:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Shoulder problem → Shoulder pain – This is a better title for this page; all of these "problems" cause pain. Also, Wikipedia's preference for article titles in the singular, and "Shoulder problem" is less meaningful that "Shoulder pain" A loose necktie (talk) 14:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). Polyamorph (talk) 14:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Not all shoulder problems are painful. Polyamorph (talk) 14:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose for the same reason as Polyamorph. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose: Per above, "shoulder pain" is a subclass of "shoulder problem", but not equivalent. Normally I won't !vote "per above", but this is to make the consensus clearer for the closer. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 11:05, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Recent edits
editHi @Trit6611: terrific work here! I had a few minutes to take a look at the recent edits. Here are some comments:
- I do not feel that the use of "AKA" is appropriate in the subheading. I removed it already, if that is ok.
- Before you remove "inaccurate information" it is great if you can include a source that shares this. I am not in the field so do not know if this is correct or not, but I just noted the removal of "Repeated motion involving the arms, or the aging process involving shoulder motion over many years, may also irritate and wear down the tendons, muscles, and surrounding structures".
- In this subsection, I noticed that the majority of references used to support this whole section are primary research studies that do not meet Wikipedia's Guideline for Reliable Sources (WP:MEDRS). If someone is in the field and is aware of a few high quality secondary sources that could be used to share evidence (even a strong text book would be great) I think that would be an excellent way to continue to improve this article. The primary research studies can be completely replaced by the secondary sources (I know... it is completely different from writing a review article for a peer reviewed journal, but this is how medical content on Wikipedia is usually shared!).
Thanks for sharing these improvements! JenOttawa (talk) 19:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello @JenOttawa,
- Thank you very much for your comments! I will relay it back to my doctor, and we will incorporate the changes accordingly.
- Best,
- Trit6611 (talk) 16:01, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 8 October 2025
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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 02:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
Shoulder problem → Shoulder problems – I belive that the page title should be changed to "Shoulder Problems", or to "List of Shoulder Problems" or Even "List of Shoulder Injuries" (Drastic), since the page mainly focusses on the types of shoulder problems, and not as a definition of what is a shoudler injury. Or the page could be split as one desbring what an shoulde rinjury is , and a list (although this/that would create a stub). Mant08 (talk) 22:18, 8 October 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 23:21, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think we should move to List of shoulder problems and remove the largely unsourced sections prior to the list. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:35, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support Shoulder problems. This should definitely be WP:PLURAL. This meets the first criterion for using a plural title, as an article about a group or class or "problems". I would likely support other alternatives since "problems" is rather vague. Oppose List of shoulder problems per the duck test. This looks like an article with multiple, lengthy sections. I agree it could use some cleanup. Calling this a list in its present state is inappropriate. A condensed version might still read largely as an article. Shoulder problems would be an appropriate title even if this begins to look more list-like; there is no requirement that standalone lists be titled "List of" although such a proposal may be appropriate in the future.—Myceteae🍄🟫(talk) 00:21, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
proposal to reorganise and use excerpts
editThis article provides an overview of shoulder problems but is poorly referenced and covers ground that is more rigorously addressed in more detailed articles about each medical diagnosis.
I suggest using the excerpt template to pull in the leads from the detailed articles and link through to them. Duncnbiscuit (talk) 07:02, 19 May 2026 (UTC)