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citation needed
edit"there are likely more Hollywood celebrities in other religious traditions."
What does this mean? Proportionally? Needs citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kauri0.o (talk • contribs) 01:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed, bearing in mind that Scientologists are numbered in the mid-thousands, whereas Jewish and Christian people --- who were born into their respective faiths number in the many millions in America; as are Atheists --- there would have to be more in non-Scientology faiths.
Tips on more sources
editLeaving here some notes for later (or for anyone who wants to run with it). These sources have some good material about the topic of scientology and celebrities.
- Lewis, James R., ed. (2017). Handbook of Scientology. Brill Handbooks on Contemporary Religion. Vol. 14. Brill. ISBN 9789004330542.
- Reitman, Janet (2011). Inside Scientology: The Story of America's Most Secretive Religion. Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. ISBN 9780618883028. OL 24881847M. Pages 52, 212, 302-3, 316-17, 253-271 (a chapter)
- Atack, Jon (1990). A Piece of Blue Sky: Scientology, Dianetics and L. Ron Hubbard Exposed. Lyle Stuart Books. ISBN 081840499X. OL 9429654M. Pages 379, 385
- Duignan, John; Tallant, Nicola (2008). The Complex: An Insider Exposes the Covert World of the Church of Scientology. Merlin Publishing. ISBN 9781903582848. OL 23214607M.
- Lamont, Stewart (1986). Religion Inc. : The Church of Scientology. Harrap. ISBN 0245543341. OL 2080316M.
- Many, Nancy (2009). My Billion Year Contract: Memoir of a Former Scientologist. CNM Publishing. ISBN 9780578039220. OL 25424752M. Including an entire chapter
- Urban, Hugh B. (2011). The Church of Scientology: A History of a New Religion. Princeton University Press. ISBN 9780691146089. Probably (I don't have a copy right this moment)
Changed ambiguous categories for celebrity members
editUnder the heading "Notable celebrity members" there were two subheadings "Current" and "Former". This has been ambiguous, according to several edits over a period of time. The subheading choice of "current" seemed to mean currently a scientologist and currently alive. "Former" would seem to mean "ex-scientologist", but in practice included ex-scientologists (Jason Beghe, Paul Haggis), dead but was-still-a-scientologist (Kirstie Alley, Isaac Hayes, Chick Corea), as well as dead and ex-scientologists (Lisa Marie Presley).
I changed the subheadings to "Member" and "Former member", added an explanatory lead sentence under "former members", and put the word "(deceased)" after those who are dead (especially important in the "members" section). ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 17:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- good idea. Cambial — foliar❧ 20:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Inclusion criteria for notable member section
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The notable member section should only include those celebrities that are fairly widely known as Scientologists, and not just widely-known celebrities that happen to also be Scientologists. We already link to List of Scientologists which includes everyone, so the list here should definitely be a much smaller subset.
Since I don't follow celebrities, maybe someone else would be better suited for trimming the list along this criteria. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 16:05, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
- To further match the tone of the article (Scientology using celebrities as PR), I think we should note what each celebrity-scientologist's "public role" has been. For example, Kelly Preston: Promoted Narconon. (cite Wright's book, pg 196). ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 05:06, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
More:
- Tom Cruise, "Cruise claims that Hubbard's technology helped him overcome dyslexia and that Narconon is the only successful drug rehabilitation program in the world."[78] (Urban p. 143)
- John Travolta, "as early as 1978, presented him with a "Service Award" for his "major contributions in the dissemination of Dianetics and Scientology."[81] and for his dedication to work on and promote the project of the Battlefield Earth movie. (Urban p. 143)
▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:53, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Grorp using the username "Group" does not make what you say a consensus of the community. where is the dialogue to show that this isn't just your opinion? ~2026-27063-62 (talk) 07:03, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
- Per WP:TALKPAGE, this space is for discussing improvements to this article. If you have any constructive comments about the article, you may add them here. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 16:10, 4 May 2026 (UTC)