Talk:Schengen Area

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What does this mean?

"However, as the EU described on the official website, Ireland requested to some Schengen areas, like Schengen Information System due to "the benefits of Schengen cooperation"."

There is a word or two missing there. Ireland requested to what some Schengen areas? David10244 (talk) 05:25, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

I have revised that to read However, as the Commission described on the official website, Ireland requested participation in some Schengen areas, such as the Schengen Information System, due to "the benefits of Schengen cooperation". I assume that this is what was intended. (I should have changed "described" to "reported" so I'll do that now.) 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:07, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

Andorra

"Andorra, while maintaining border controls, has open borders with Schengen states and applies Schengen visa rules but is not considered de facto part of the Schengen Area." This sentence does come across as rather confusing. If it has open borders and follows the rules, then surely it is considered de facto part, but not de jure? ~2026-12951-12 (talk) 11:23, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

I've tried to clarify the wording. TDL (talk) 15:34, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

Removing/changing "Passport stamp" part

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Since the full implementation of the EES on 10 April 2026, there is a need change/remove/adapt the whole section of "passport stamp", either removing it in full, or just redirecting it to the EES part (that is below in the article). All contributions are welcome! Franjo-22121990 (talk) 14:11, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Whoever undertakes this will need to keep in mind that visitors from many countries do not qualify for EES (visa waiver) and will have to have a formal visa. Presumably passport stamping will continue in these cases? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

You're confusing EES with ETIAS, every third-country national has to use EES. Franjo-22121990 (talk) 15:24, 14 April 2026 (UTC) — Discussion brought back from edit history by Samoasambia (talk • contribs)

I think passport stamping (which has now ended) would be still relevant as historical information in the article. Maybe it could be summarized in past tense in a new subsection to the History section? Samoasambia ✎ 04:55, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

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Obsolete or not?

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Is this whole section obsolete since the introduction of the EES?

The additional obligations imposed by European law on national border authorities when it comes to processing travellers who are third-country nationals (e.g. the obligation to stamp their travel documents) should not prevent the development of automated border control systems which are made available to such travellers. As shown by the examples listed above of automated border control systems which have been developed at external border crossing points of the Schengen Area, national border authorities have been able to adapt the design of their automated border control systems to allow third-country nationals to make use of them. One solution is to have a border guard physically positioned next to the automated border gates who can stamp travel documents where required: this approach has been adopted by the Finnish Border Guard at the automated border gates in Helsinki Airport, where eligible users (who are required to receive a passport stamp) include holders of Australian, Canadian, Japanese, New Zealand, South Korean and United States biometric passports, and in the Port of Helsinki, where eligible users (who are required to receive a passport stamp) include Russian citizens, who are required to scan both the biodata page and the visa inside their passport, then to step into the gate for a facial image and fingerprint recognition, and after the gate opens to approach a border officer to have their passport stamped. The Portuguese Serviço de Estrangeiros e Fronteiras has also adopted the practice of positioning a border guard for stamping next to the automated border gates in Lisbon Airport where eligible users (who are required to receive a passport stamp) include holders of Angolan and Brazilian passports and holders of diplomatic/service passports. This approach has also been adopted in Italy, where eligible users of eGates include holders of Australian, Canadian, Israeli, Japanese, New Zealand, Singaporean, South Korean, United States and Vatican biometric passports. A similar but slightly different solution has been adopted by the Dutch Royal Marechaussee at the Privium iris recognition automated border gates at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol (where eligible users include registered EU/EEA/Swiss citizens, US citizens who are Global Entry members, and all nationals who are holders of diplomatic passports), as well as by the German Federal Police at the ABG Plus iris recognition automated border gates at Frankfurt Airport (where eligible users include registered EU/EEA/Swiss citizens and US citizens who are Global Entry members: when eligible third-country nationals use Privium/ABG Plus, after their iris is scanned and verified, a different gate/door/turnstile opens to that for EU/EEA/Swiss citizens and the third-country national user is directed to a lane which leads them to the front of the queue for manual passport checks at immigration desks, where the border guard stamps the user's passport. Another possible solution would be to design the automated border gates to print a paper slip with an entry or exit stamp on it, as well as the user's name and travel document number, whenever the user is a traveller who is subject to the requirement to have their travel document stamped. Franjo-22121990 (talk) 23:39, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

You are probably correct but we have to wait for a WP:RS to say so. Absent that, it would be a WP:NOR violation to add it now. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

https://www.thedubrovniktimes.com/times-travel/item/19664-eu-ends-passport-stamps-as-new-digital-border-system-goes-live#:~:text=Written%20by%20Mark%20Thomas%20Apr,and%20exit%20the%20Schengen%20Area. Would this suffice? It is thoroughly explained in the Schengen Borders Code (Regulation (EU) 2016/399). Franjo-22121990 (talk) 12:14, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Best you cite the Regulation too. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:03, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

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