Talk:Sacred grove

Not a sacred grove

A grove of old trees behind Joseph Smith's barn in Palmyra NY is not a sacred grove in the normal sense that is being discussed in this article. Adding it here flatters the vanity of some contributor perhaps, but serves only to dilute the information and is sure to confuse the reader. The Cathedral of the Pines in Rindge New Hampshire is not mentioned either, don't you see? --Wetman 06:40, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I do. But Because Mormons call the place where Joseph Smith received his First Vision the "Sacred Grove" there should at least be disabiguation. When I googled "Sacred Grove" and LDS/Mormon, I got 13,600 hits; with those two terms excluded I got 165,000 hits. That works out to a bit more than 7% of all Internet references to "Sacred Grove" having to do with some trees near Palmyra, New York. My vanity is neither flattered or unflattered, so I'll leave the problem to you. --John Foxe 13:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Hebrews?

Did the Hebrews not have sacred groves also? I've found it difficult to find online references, but I remember reading that in the past concerning a link with Ethiopic Jews and ancient Israel. Can anyone help? Jcchat66 04:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Sacred Groves = Old European? Huh?

I find it strange that the lead seems to imply that the concept of "sacred groves"is an exclusive European thing. I have heard of sacred groves in many cultures across the world. If someone does not clarify, I will make changes. --Blacksun 09:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Please do! I'm sure it was more widespread than Europe. Thank you for any help you can bring. Jcchat66 04:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

No sacred groves for Native Americans?

I find it hard to believe that no indigenous groups from North or South America had beliefs in sacred groves. This article clearly suffers from Eurocentric blindness, with the exception of random Asian and African regions in the "today" category. Someone will knowledge of Native American religions should make some expansions on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:C000:530:8D43:AA23:C62D:2077 (talk) 00:40, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Lucus Pisaurensis

The Wikipedia article on Lucus Pisaurensis explains in some detail the original, Bronze-Age era concept behind Sacred Groves. The concept has since changed considerably as Yuga cycles descended Isobel Chaveh (talk) 14:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Holy trees in the English countryside?

"Ancient holy trees still exist in the English and Estonian countryside", where in the English countryside? 86.132.220.123 (talk) 10:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Glastonbury is the obvious one. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:29, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

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Bohemian Grove?

The paragraph under United States about the Bohemian Club's Bohemian Grove seems a bizarre inclusion, and besides that there are no citations. The Bohemian Club is a private recreational club, and not a spiritual organization. The purported "symbolic ceremony" is described on the Bohemian Grove's page as a theatrical production. Internetfox (talk) 02:59, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

FWIW I agree it's bizarre. I think a link to "sacred grove" *potentially* belongs on the Bohemian Grove page but Bohemian Grove doesn't go on this page. It's not sacred. It's just a social club. Its inclusion is based on a lot of insinuation. jengod (talk) 03:28, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Newer translations of "grove"

The sacred grove noted in the 2 Kings 23:7 reference is an outdated translation. References to "grove" in the Bible, particularly those referencing groves demolished in the name of Judaic orthodoxy such as in this example, actually refer to Asherah Poles or other tree-based imagery associated with the Canaanite goddess Asherah. Many Jews prior to ~600 BCE considered Asherah to be YHWH's consort, and she was venerated in much the same way as Virgin Mary is in Catholicism. Judaic reformists such as Josiah suppressed Asherah veneration as idolatry, and one of his ways of doing so was by destroying Asherah-related imagery and objects.

Comparative translations of the referenced verse: https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Kings%2023%3A7 Weird Al 4 HoF (talk) 21:02, 2 June 2026 (UTC)