Talk:S.W.A.T. (2017 TV series)

Patrick St. Esprit recurring as Robert Hicks

Should he be added? IMDB credits him with having the most appearances without being in the main titles. He's an authority figure but wasn't sure of his position. Episode 8 identifies him as a Commander. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.6.101.28 (talk) 22:33, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Copyright violations

Dibol,
FYI, I did checked. Here is the link where the editor copied significant amount from for each episode summary: . In addition, close paraphrasing without a source is considered to be a copyright violation. — Lbtocth^talk 04:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Shared universe

The last sentence of the intro states that S.W.A.T. is in the shared universe that includes the FX TV series "The Shield."

However, no where else in the article is this covered or explained.

I think that needs to be corrected. 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 06:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Dominique Luca originally named Brian Gamble and Christina "Chris" Alonzo, originally named Sanchez

In section "Casting", both staments cite this as source, however in that article I did not find anything to back up that statement. Shamandrood (talk) 10:27, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Merge proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Merge. There was a slight numerical majority for merging, justified with guidelines and mitigating some of the length concerns that were raised. -- Beland (talk) 10:01, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

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Given the recent struggles we've had with a few of them being denied by multiple reviewers in the WP:AFC process, followed by a cut-and-paste move on season 8 requiring a history merge, I figured it was best to gain an official consensus on record regarding this specific set, just to make sure that myself and a few others aren't misunderstanding the criteria.

WP:TV has recently been more strict in enforcing the guidelines laid out at WP:NTV and MOS:TVSPLIT; which are ultimately based off of WP:N and WP:SPLIT.

These season articles largely all consist of a cast listing, an episode listing with summaries, and ratings table, none of which currently require a standalone article per WP:SIZESPLIT. The production section, while present on each of them, contain very minimal information, some of which is a duplicate of information that already exists here. In short, everything across these 8 season articles can easily be merged here (a C-class article at best) or List of S.W.A.T. (2017 TV series) episodes and still be well under the TVSPLIT threshold. TheDoctorWho (talk) 21:26, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

The episode and ratings tables should absolutely be moved to the List of Episodes article, and any remaining information (production, casting, etc.) is easily movable to this article. I agree in that none of the season articles provided are of season article standard. -- Alex_21 _TALK 22:55, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: It makes things too long if we merge them into the list of episodes of each show. We need to work on adding certain things on each season of the show. That what needs to be done. BattleshipMan (talk) 02:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

  Still not long enough to warrant individual splits. See an example of similar length at List of The Rookie episodes. If absolutely necessary, it would need to be split into two episode lists, if enough production and reception information isn't present to warrant a standalone article. The season 1 article for example, has existed since 2021, we can't perpetually wait on the hope that someone might "add certain things on each season of the show", when something concrete is available, we split at that time, not before. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:56, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

The season pages were created to make more room and space for the main and episode list pages.--IAmJustPete (talk) 03:37, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Not sure I follow here. As I said, we're not hurting for space here, this article is well below the splitting guidelines. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:14, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

No, I agree with IAmJustPete. The season pages were meant to make more room and space for the main and episode list pages and that proposal does make more problems with space and room and if you can't see it, don't bother merging the season articles with the list of episodes pages. BattleshipMan (talk) 17:22, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

• Support: All of them fail WP:GNG and WP:NFTV. — YoungForever^(talk) 04:55, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as the season articles are simply too long. —theMainLogan (t•c) 19:18, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

  As noted in my proposal, the season articles actually aren't too. MOS:TVSPLIT is clear, and the actual prose size of those pages doesn't meet the split requirements. It's also noted that the episode tables and ratings table would be placed at List of S.W.A.T. (2017 TV series) episodes, so everything would actually be merged into two pages rather than just one. TheDoctorWho (talk) 21:44, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

I agree with TheMainLogan. Season articles were meant to tell episode summaries, list main stars, recurring and notable guest stars, add some production notes and such. Splitting those to the list of episodes at much takes that away. BattleshipMan (talk) 05:03, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Episode summaries will still exist on the List of Episodes page; cast listing and the few production notes will exist on the show page. Nothing will be lost in a merger. A season article should only exist when there are enough production and reception notes to warrant a standalone page, which isn't the case at this time. TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:13, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

I share this viewpoint, but sucked at conveying it. —theMainLogan (t•c) 21:27, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Still share it despite it violating a Manual of Style and generally accepted information page? Any particular reason I'm not seeing why we should ignore it here? (Not piling on, strictly just trying to understand.) TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:37, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Oppose as Season details vary from one to the next. For instance, variability of Cast. With a Merged "List of..." these differences are lost. I would counter-propose building up each Season article with additional Sections to note other differences in Response (i.e., Reception, Critical Reviews, etc.), Cast developments, and Notable guest stars. If Production diff's could also be added, that'd be a plus. My 2¢ ~<}:^> GreyElfGT (talk) 10:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC) P.S., I should qualify a bit more...Notable guest cast in particular... A trend I note, due to the general frowning-upon of linking Notable Guest Stars within the Plot ShortSummary, is for Editors to not bother noting Notable guest stars ANYwhere for a given Series, and more-to-the-point, for a given Season. Right now, the Notable guest stars are just lists for each season, but at least they call out the differences, season to season, which would be lost if the ep's were merged to a "List of..." (for example, look at Law & Order franchise seasons, and their "Notable guest" sections). Sure, you could put ALL notables on the Main TV article, but then they're all lumped together in a big long list, with no context, and no way to tell who appeared in which season, let alone which episode. For example, Law & Order: Criminal Intent season 7#Guest stars <-- An intrepid editor can expand the S.W.A.T. Guest star list for given, or all, season(s), to talk not about Plot, but about the actors' Character Roles. Merging into a single list discourages further improvement. Hope that helps. ~<}:^> GreyElfGT (talk) 10:58, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

I concur with the merging. Let it be done immediately!NeoCy (talk) 07:07, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Support merging – while the result would be very large, it's still better than having a dozen small articles on the same thing. And, the seasons don't meet GNG. FaviFake (talk) 10:34, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

@NeoCy Unless you provide a reason, this will likely be counted as a vote and discarded. FaviFake (talk) 17:37, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

It is better to have one, rather than many, articles on the same subject. NeoCy (talk) 12:12, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. FaviFake (talk) 15:38, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

• Noting for posterity that the community rejected WP:NTV as a notability guideline in 2021. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 04:55, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

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TheDoctorWho, is this something you're still interested in? You have consensus to merge now. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:08, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping, but i personally prefer simpler, prose-only mergers :) FaviFake (talk) 15:09, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Alex 21, FaviFake, YoungForever: the original proposer hasn't responded, so I'm pinging to see whether any of you were interested in carrying out the merger. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:04, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@Thebiguglyalien: Apologies, I had intended on getting to this sooner, and as usual I got sidetracked with other projects and some real-life obligations. I should be able to find time to complete the merger within the next 7-days. TheDoctorWho (talk) 16:35, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

@TheDoctorWho Don't worry, merge nominators have no obligation to carry our the merger they're proposing. if there's consensus and the nom or closer doesn't do it, someone else will usually do it :) FaviFake (talk) 13:21, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Actually if the nominator, closer, or any supporter doesn't do it, it usually gets backlogged, per WP:M5. — YoungForever^(talk) 15:55, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, i meant that someone from the backlog will do it FaviFake (talk) 16:21, 24 March 2026 (UTC)