Talk:Robotniczy Klub Sportowy "Skała"

some leads for refs/expansion

google cache of a memoir about these sports clubs. Excerpt about competing clubs in one village from From a Ruined Garden By Jack Kugelmass, Jonathan Boyarin, Zachary M. Baker, United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (1998).

It seems these Skala clubs were an initiative of the Communist Party during the Popular Front to pull in a united front of left leaning Jewish/zionist sports clubs (like the Hapoel movement). Even in the US, Latin America, but especially Europe, most populist political parties (the left, extreme right especially) had these overarching social club networks, an important part of which were sports clubs. This has survived in names of Jewish clubs (Maccabi, Hapoel), as well as other diaspora groups (two competing Armenian clubs in Lebanon -- the names escape me -- are examples). This is an interesting topic and should be preserved and expanded. T L Miles (talk) 18:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Here's a better online version of the first link: Baruch Yismach. Sports Clubs and Self Defense. From "Sefer Wyszków", Edited by David Shtokfish. Israel (1964) Pages 87-89 (Translated by Abraham Holland, March, 2004).

Um, its not my place to remove well intentioned expansion attempts (and I won't), but...

The story about this club only lasting a few days was from one town only. This appears to have been a larger organisation which the Communist Party (and specifically the Jewish Sections) tried to seed across at least Poland, but likely elsewhere. It's like a Arby's in Passaic closing a few weeks after opening: It may be the end of Arby's in Passaic, but it doesn't tell us much about the company that owns it, it history, cultural context, etc.

Not trying to be difficult, but I think some context needs to be interjected. It looks as if sources off the internet will have to be perused for this article. T L Miles (talk) 19:03, 2 October 2008 (UTC)