Talk:Robert, Count of Mortain

Timeline of Cornish history

"== Robert of Mortain ==The timeline has a statement that he was a Celtic speaking Breton: where does this idea come from as nothing in his own article suggests he would have needed to speak Celtic as well as Norman-French. His vassals would have been in contact with the Bretons.----Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 13:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)----Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 19:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

The Breton speaker would have been Brian of Brittany who preceded Robert in Cornwall.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 08:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Doubtful statement

"In his early years Robert was said to be a sword for hire, the early Mercenary." removed: if true belongs earlier in text.----Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 20:24, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Lands granted by William the Conqueror

In this paragraph the second sentence begins "He was granted the rape of Pevensey...". This sounds like an anachronistic modern opinion, and would apply equally to most ALL the lands granted to William's Norman followers after the conquest, from our modern viewpoint. What he was granted was the castle of Pevensey, as the Pevensey article clearly states. Whether this was vandalism or not, it violates the NPOV, so I have changed the word to 'castle'. ----StevoDog21 (talk) 21:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Rape is a real term, involving a subdivision of land in the southeast of England. It might apply equally to all Will's followers who were granted land in Sussex, but not necessarily those given it in, for example, Suffolk. The castle may be what Robert got, but technically he was given the rape ~ with no sexual connotations whatever, so not vandalism. Cheers, Lindsay^Hi 04:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for my ignorance. I was not aware of this definition of the term.--StevoDog21 (talk) 20:18, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Daughter Agnes who married André de Vitré

How reliable is the source that says he had a daughter "Agnes who married André de Vitré"? The History and Genealogy of the Pomeroy Family (1912) claims that Reginald de Dunstanville, Earl of Cornwall had a daughter named "Agnes de Cornwall" who married "Andre de Vitrei", but an article in The American Genealogist demonstrates that "the André de Vitré of this period is easy to identify, and three marriages are shown for him", namely 1) Mathilde de Mayenne, 2) Eustache de Retz, 3) Lucy Paynel. It is possible that there is an earlier André de Vitré who did marry Robert's daughter Agnes, and the article missed this, but because it would conclusively explain the confusion found in the Pomeroy Family book, I would have thought the article's author might have found it.

References

--Yodin^T 12:42, 10 March 2026 (UTC)