Talk:Raphael Lemkin

Polonized-Jewish descent

Is this a term? It sounds really odd, especially encountering it in the lead. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

It was the term employed in one of the sources and does appear tohave a notable amount of usage. However, I'm all ears for other suggestions as it's not a central content concern for me. It does seems appropriate to distinguish between ethnicity and nationality. His nationality seems a bit complicated (Imperial Russian, Belarusian Republic, Second Polish Republic and his "home" after leaving thearea becoming Soviet Union, Byelorussian SSR, German occupied, Byelorussian SSR again and lastly Republic of Belarus. Throw in the fact that he lived is Sweden and subsequently the United States and nationality becomes a distraction given I don't know whether he self identified himself in one way or another. All this to say it would bring me great pleasure if a final consensus was reached.--Labattblueboy (talk) 12:09, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

injury in defense of Warsaw (cont'd)

the statement "During the Polish Defensive War of 1939 Lemkin joined the Polish Army and defended Warsaw during the siege of that city, where he was injured by a bullet to the hip. " was removed on 13 Feb 2017 as unreferenced. Actually it was referenced (Paul R. Bartrop. Modern Genocide: The Definitive Resource and Document Collection. Vol. I. ABC-CLIO. 2014. pp. 1301-1302 which refers to the event. Philippe Sands does mention: "One Polish scholar claimed that he fought as a soldier in the Polish-Soviet war, and Lemkin himself once suggested he was wounded in 1920, as Marshal Piłsudski pushed Bolshevik forces out of eastern Poland." (Sands p. 149) but goes on to say that Lemkin does not mention the time in his memoirs and that he was expelled from a university around that time for falsely claiming that he had been in the Polish army. This seems to justify the deletion. --Joel Mc (talk) 11:28, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

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A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

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• The Genocide Word by Raphael Lemkin.ogv

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Edited video from YouTube is not a reliable source.

The video file where Rafael Lemkin allegedly claims that "Hitler came out after the Armenian Genocide" is not only falsified but also taken from YouTube File:The Genocide Word by Raphael Lemkin.ogv#:~:text=13 February 1949-,Source,YouTube,-Author

Hew Folly (talk) 18:52, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

@KhndzorUtogh thank you for noting the WP rules. Don't forget to follow them, too. Hew Folly (talk) 18:57, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Yeah only one problem, the WP rule I referred to is for english wikipedia. What I was referring to in my edit summary is that Youtube isn't considered a reliable a source in en-wiki, per WP:NOYT. But I'm not aware of such policy for material in Commons, in fact many videos in commons have Youtube as a source. If there is a policy in commons similar to WP:NOYT you can let me know, but until then, don't make false analogies and don't use Youtube link as a justification for removing something from en-wiki like you did here.

Also as I already pointed out in my edit summary, this is a WP:GS/AA article, you're not allowed to edit it to begin with. I see you were warned of GS/AA on your talk too, yet all the warnings didn't stop you from reverting me and editing an article again that you're not allowed to edit. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 08:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

First, what happens on Wiki Commons, stays on on Wiki Commons. Second, as far as using Wiki Commons data for Wikipedia is concerned, here is the rule:

Quote: "Wikis, including Wikipedia and other wikis sponsored by the Wikimedia Foundation, are not regarded as reliable sources". Hew Folly (talk) 13:47, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

WikiCommons isn't used as a source in this article. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 13:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

If a video downloaded to Wiki Commons with a reference to YouTube is neither from YouTube nor from Wiki Commons, it can be regarded as sourceless with all the ensuing consequences. Hew Folly (talk) 16:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

The video has Youtube as a source in Commons which many videos have there, I don't understand how you argue for it to be removed from here in english wiki when it isn't used as a source anywhere in the article. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 09:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Both Wikicommons and YouTube are indeed used as sources even though they are not mentioned as such in the article. Hew Folly (talk) 18:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

So, this is unusual and may be a question for WP:RSN, as it seems to have been published on YouTube by Samvel Martirosyan, but per the licensing information on commons, and the watermark in the bottom left of the video, it comes from KPBS (TV). So, the reliability may be that which is given to material from KPBS as a news channel that is part of the PBS network. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 10:12, 12 May 2026 (UTC)