Talk:Off the Wall (Michael Jackson song)
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| On 28 December 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Off the Wall (song). The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Fair use rationale for Image:Off The Wall single.jpg
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There is also Off the Wall (Little Walter song). In ictu oculi (talk) 18:15, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
American vinyl and German vinyl
editImages of, respectively, a side label of the American release and an artwork of the Germany vinyl release are used. I uploaded the American one intended to replace the German one. However, the German release was re-uploaded and then reinserted. I don't know whether this talk page is adequate enough as, in my experience, FFD is a better venue than an article talk page. --George Ho (talk) 15:31, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
The FFD discussion is closed as "no consensus", defaulting to keeping them both. --George Ho (talk) 09:04, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 28 December 2025
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vestrian24Bio 08:33, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
Off the Wall (Michael Jackson song) → Off the Wall (song) – Appears to be the WP:PDAB for songs with this title. Between the fact that this article averages several times more page views than the other song with this title that has an article (Off the Wall (Little Walter song)), and the fact that a Google search only seems to bring up results related to this song, this seems to be the primary topic for songs with this title. I can see the argument that WP:SONGDAB applies here, but cf. Let It Be (song) and Relax (song), where there is one song that clearly holds more significance as far as primary disambiguation status goes. I think the same applies here. JeffSpaceman (talk) 02:32, 28 December 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 08:35, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk • contribs) 03:04, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Off the Wall (song) represents incomplete disambiguation and should redirect, as it currently does, to the Off the Wall (disambiguation)#Songs dab page. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 08:11, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
- This isn't about complete disambiguation -- it's about what qualifies as the most concise, likely title, and the only other standalone article's page views, combined with search results, do not indicate that it holds nearly as much importance as this one. From where I sit, WP:PDAB applies. JeffSpaceman (talk) 12:09, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Rosaece ♡ talk ♡ contribs 16:42, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. No case for there being a primary topic for Off the Wall (song), so it should remain as a redirect to the DAB. Andrewa (talk) 06:03, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support.3449 page views vs 72 page views in the last 30 days. Clearly a case of WP:PDAB for songs — even a Google search for the title brings up nothing about the other song. TheWikiholic (talk) 06:36, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- The only arguments in favour of the move seem to be the page view count, which is a clear case of The Problem With Page Views. We need to look deeper than that. Andrewa (talk) 19:53, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Off the Wall (Little Walter song) does not appear to be overly notable and is a likely candidate for WP:AFD. 162 etc. (talk) 19:16, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- I would say that this is yet another sign of this article being the PDAB. With such relatively minuscule content about the other song compared to this one (as proven by the reliable sourcing that can be found), this is another good argument in favor of this article being the primary topic for songs with this title. JeffSpaceman (talk) 13:26, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose. While there is an article on another song by this name, this merely introduces ambiguity as incomplete disambiguation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:04, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
