Okay, I know this is a bit like cheating, given that the article I'm presenting today is half-based on Viatkogorgon, but since it covers two genera rather than just one, I decided to submit the second gorgoniopsian genus of Kotelnich to the label as well. However, since Nochnitsa isn't as completely described gorgonopsian as his contemporary, I think I'll just stick to the BA label for this one in future revisions. To ensure the article covers all the topics, I'm asking FunkMonk for help, and to a lesser extent DrawingDinosaurs, to address this. Amirani1746 (talk) 18:39, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Only a rather quick look. You seem to have made tremendous progress in English writing, as the grammar seems perfect.
- I see quite some close paraphrasing (WP:CLOP). For example, the article says often depicted as an horrific female apparition attacking sleeping humans, while the source says often portrayed as a horrific female apparition that attacks sleeping humans. However, the original text, before your edits, used a completely original and concise wording: Nochnitsa is named after the Nocnitsa, a nocturnal hag-like creature from Slavic mythology. I would be interested in hearing why you decided to replace this easy-to-read sentence with what is basically a copy-paste from the source?
- In contrast, previous analyses had not found gorgonopsians to be grouped geographically, with some studies placing Russian genera such as Inostrancevia in African families. Previously, it had not been suspected that different gorgonopsian groups were endemic to different regions. – The two sentences are redundant.
- Bones interpreted as the metacarpals linked with the third and fourth digits may rank among the largest known in gorgonopsians. – That is imprecise. You suggest here that the identification of the bones as metacarpals is somehow in question, but that does not seem to be the case. The source also says they are the largest known in gorgonopsians, not that they "may" rank "among" the largest.
- The hand of Nochnitsa is poorly known, as the state of preservation of the holotype elements does not allow for a precise description of its anatomy – I think that's just editorialising and not stated in the source, I think it is superfluous at best. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 07:57, 28 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
- Hello Jens Lallensack and thank you for your compliments on my improved English. You can thank my fairly accurate use of translation with ChatGPT (a much better tool than Google Translate). Regarding the etymology of Nochnitsa, it's precisely to highlight the parallels between the Gorgons and their Slavic equivalent. Amirani1746 (talk) 17:44, 28 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
- Thanks for the clarification. But how exactly did you use ChatGPT? Did you use it to translate the article of the French Wikipedia? But if so, how did you get the same wording as the source? --Jens Lallensack (talk) 21:17, 28 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
- To put it simply, with ChatGPT, I use it in both languages to my advantage (especially for spell checks). Regarding the second sentence, I'd say it's more of a coincidence. Amirani1746 (talk) 07:34, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
- Ok. Please just make sure you follow the relevant policies, WP:NOLLM and WP:CLOP. Those are really important. NOLLM says that you have to be very careful with ChatGPT; only translate your own text or use it to suggest grammar copyedits, but make sure it does not alter the meaning of the text. Don't use it to generate or rewrite text. CLOP says that close paraphrasing may be plagiarism and need to be avoided. The above example (horrific female apparition that attacks sleeping humans) is plagiarism and you should revert to the original sentence. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 14:40, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
- Hello again Jens Lallensack. I understand what you were saying, and I can assure you that I know how to handle AI when it comes to writing sentences (especially for translations). However, the case of Nochnitsa is quite particular, in the sense that more than half of its article use the text already present from Viatkogorgon's one. I have also corrected the issue you pointed out regarding its etymology. Amirani1746 (talk) 07:26, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
- Yeah, that makes it a little hard for me to review it objectively with fresh eyes hehe. Note that all of Viatkogorgon was written "by hand", so there should be no AI issues with that chunk. FunkMonk (talk) 11:55, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
- So FunkMonk & Jens Lallensack, what I should do ? Amirani1746 (talk) 19:00, 8 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
