Talk:Nathan Law

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Robertsky in topic Nationality is "Stateless"?
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Lede: former politician??

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Hi all: should Law be called a "former" politician?? Law is still actively advocating. --Now wiki (talk) 04:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

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NOTUS article is not a reliable source

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In the NOTUS article cited regarding accusations of sexual harassment, it references only an unnamed, anonymous source claiming familiarity with the individual involved. Such a serious allegation cannot be substantiated through a source of this nature, as it risks defaming a living person without reliable corroboration. Furthermore, the article highlights that several accounts with zero followers began spreading these rumors, suggesting the possibility of a smear campaign orchestrated by political opponents, especially given the individual's political sensitivities.

Nathan Law himself later addressed these claims in two credible media outlets, Radio Free Asia[1] and The Chaser[2], categorizing them as part of a concerted effort to damage his reputation.

Considering these factors and in line with Wikipedia’s policy on biographies of living persons WP:BLP, I will remove this content to mitigate the potential harm to this individual. Additionally, questionable sources and potentially libellous statements should not be added to a biography of a living person and should not be reintroduced without more reliable sources. Kendhaomf (talk) 22:56, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Agree I also don’t think this article and news agency should be considered as a reliable source. Especially since Nathan have responded in other platform, such as rfa, and highlighted the risk of CCP propaganda and disinformation campaign. We at Wikipedia should ensure the accuracy to the most of our ability. Therefore, I agree that we should not include this. Nanarooney (talk) 21:34, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Agree I do not think this news agency should be considered as a good resource and it is not listed from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. Plus Nathan already states in rfa news channel that it is a misinformation and we need to ensure the information spreaded in wiki must be as accurates as it can. Otherwise. it is a propaganda from the China and we are spreading false information. [3]Notepadplusplusplus (talk)

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  1. "Feature article of Nathan Law". Radio Free Asia. 13 September 2024. Retrieved 2 October 2024.
  2. "The 5th Anniversary of 31st of August Incident (Nathan Law section)". The Chaser. 2 September 2024. Retrieved 2 October 2024.
  3. "Feature article of Nathan Law". Radio Free Asia. 13 September 2024. Retrieved 2 October 2024.

Nationality is "Stateless"?

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Law's current nationality in the infoxbox is listed as "Stateless". Shouldn't he have the nationality of the territory he was born in? Fernweh0 (talk) 05:31, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

If you are refering to 1279871483 by Jc lau49086 (viewable from wp:edit history with wp:edit summary, the passport revocation was cited in Exiled section. Though the Refugee Passport issuance wasn't cited when that edit 1279871483 was made. The wp:onus wikt:onus to cite a wp:reliable source to proof it is actually on the one who add it first wp:burden. - Calmira90 (talk) 09:17, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Can Law's nationality be changed to (Hong Kong Chinese until 2025)? That way we give some indications of his national origin while also listing him as "Stateless"? Fernweh0 (talk) 16:22, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Oh I forgot. That edit 1279871483 by Jc lau49086 should have list multiple citizenships like Albert Einstein. Actually becuase the wp:onus is on those who add it first wp:burden, which is Jc lau49086 and not me, so I had not take any further step. - Calmira90 (talk) 16:32, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Okay, I will add it in that format. Fernweh0 (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Okay I believe I fixed it, but it looks a bit off. Fernweh0 (talk) 17:15, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I have removed the stateless parts as it appears to be WP:SYNTHESIS or WP:OR. Losing the passport does not mean one's nationality is being revoked. Neither does the source states as such. If a lost or cancelled passport can negate nationality, we would have many travellers becoming stateless by virtue of their passports being lost or cancelled for whatever reasons.
Until there is definitive evidence that China has removed him from their citizenry, his nationality being Chinese should remain status quo. – robertsky (talk) 17:22, 30 September 2025 (UTC)Reply