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Steven Dale GreenSteven Dale Green was merged into this article. The discussion was closed on 03 July 2009 with a consensus to merge. The original page is now a redirect to this article. Its history now serves to provide attribution for the content in this article, and it must not be deleted as long as this article exists.
Latest comment: 2 years ago4 comments4 people in discussion
I apologize if people have already fought about whether this article should even exist or not. After reading the entirety of this article, I was so disturbed that I could not sleep well. I feel this material should at a minimum have a warning box at the top: WARNING: DREADFUL DETAIL BELOW. Given that all these facts exist online somewhere in news media, should there actually be an encyclopedia article about it? Should we have articles like this in Wikipedia that a twelve-year-old could reasonably stumble upon while reading about, say, Iraq? I read the entire Funk & Wagnalls Encyclopedia when I was a kid and there was nothing in it to compare with the graphically horrifying imagery in this article. This was a crime, not a war atrocity like the Mai Lai Massacre. The one redeeming thing about this story is the courage of the soldier who came forward, risking his life, to let the truth be known.Harborsparrow (talk) 20:09, 30 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
While I empathize with the feelings of disgust that this historical event inspire, it is still a notable historical event and an important detail in the history of American-Iraqi relations and the events of the American-Iraq War and subsequent conflicts. As such, it belongs on Wikipedia, and generally Wikipedia allows readers to decide for themselves which articles they feel comfortable reading. AScanner (talk) 11:16, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion
I just finished reading Black Hearts by Jim Frederick and wanted to update the status of the men convicted of the crimes. They appear to have been paroled, but I cannot find a source documenting that, so the best I can do is cite the Bureau of Prisons inmate locator that they are not in BOP custody. I also revised Steven Green's death date to align with what the BOP site says. Fideo (talk) 21:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Also, the BOP inmate locator lists Paul E. Cortez, age 42, as NOT IN BOP CUSTODY. The edit that said he was transferred to an unknown state prison has no citation supporting it, and I cannot find any source supporting it, so I have removed it. If someone knows this to be true and can cite support for it, that would support the accuracy of the article.Reply
Latest comment: 3 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
the page mentions that there were five perpetrators and lists five names convinced in relation to the crime. The info box lists four names though and says four perpetrators. Is there a reason Howard isn't included in the data box? ~2026-14547-60 (talk) 02:44, 7 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 2 months ago14 comments14 people in discussion
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Support since this is what sources describe the killings as. Just using "killing" is fine in unclear cases, but we have a very clear case here. Cortador (talk) 15:28, 12 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Support per nom, "killing" can be a misdirection. All four soldiers were found guilty of murder, and the article itself uses the word "murder" at least 26 times. Altorespite 🌿 17:28, 12 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Support They were convicted of murder and the article includes info detailing the intentional killing and murder of this poor family. There's no doubt, and as of now, no objections either, to the change of title that better fits the case. ScottyNolan (talk) 13:31, 13 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Latest comment: 2 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
If there was a book made on the crime, then this should be cited (usually books are considered more reliable than an equivalent newspaper/article). Sahib-e-Qiran, EasternShah 20:48, 12 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
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