Talk:Louis Adrian

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:14, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

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Tomb of Adrian

• ... that the tomb of Louis Adrian (pictured) is surmounted by a sculpture of the helmet he developed for the French Army?

• Source: "Louis Adrian (1859-1933), intendant militaire qui fit adopter par les soldats de 14-18 le casque dit «Adrian» (repré-enté sur son sarcophage)." which I translate as "Louis Adrian (1859-1933) military intendent who had the soldiers of the First World War adopt the "Adrian" helmet (depicted on top of his tomb)" from: Beyern, Bertrand (8 December 2011). Guide des tombes d'hommes célèbres (in French). Cherche Midi. p. 104. ISBN 978-2-7491-2169-7.

• • ALT1: ... that as well as developing a steel helmet for the French Army Louis Adrian also helped to locate the German Paris guns bombarding the city? Source: "Adrian's most important contribution to the French war effort, however, was the development of a new helmet for the French Army ... During the German long-distance shelling of Paris in the spring of 1918, he employed a system of triangulation, based on shell impacts, to locate the Germans so-called Paris guns firing on the city from the vicinity of Compiègne" from: Tucker, Spencer C. (28 October 2014). World War I: The Definitive Encyclopedia and Document Collection. Bloomsbury Publishing USA. pp. 129–130. ISBN 979-8-216-16870-6.
  • ALT2: ... that during the First World War Louis Adrian developed a steel helmet, abdominal armour, aircraft seats and a wooden hut for the French Army? Source: "He also worked to develop protective armor for soldiers, including an abdominal protector against barbed wire and bayonets, armored seats for aircrews, and improved straps for backpacks." from Tucker, above and "As the second winter of the war approached he designed a wooden, demountable and modular shed, the 'baraque Adrian', for use by troops during the 'rest' periods out of the front line" from: Greenhalgh, Elizabeth (13 November 2014). The French Army and the First World War. Cambridge University Press. p. 121. ISBN 978-1-107-01235-6.
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Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 934 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 12:21, 26 July 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good to go with Main, ALT1 or ALT2. Main hook with image preferred. The source for ALT3 (but not the article) is wrong; the guns were located not from triangulating the impacts, but from triangulating the sound of the gun retorts. The big problem is that the boom! that you hear is not the gun retort, but the shell breaking the sound barrier. You need a special microphone to pick this up. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:38, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

GA review

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Nominator: Dumelow (talk · contribs) 20:58, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Zawed (talk · contribs) 08:06, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

I'll take this one, comments to follow. Zawed (talk) 08:06, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Lead

• link military logistics

Done - Dumelow (talk) 09:42, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

• This included a metal skull cap to be worn under the kepi. Adrian developed the latter into the Adrian helmet,...: I think that the latter here is the metal skull cap, but I think it should be "former" because the "latter" would be the kepi.

I removed "latter" and just named "skull cap" again - Dumelow (talk) 09:42, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Early career

• link German Empire

Done - Dumelow (talk) 09:42, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

• Pipe link Lycée Descartes (Tours) to Lycée Descartes. The (Tours) doesn't need to be visible to the reader

Done, I've mentioned Tours separately as there are a few Lycée Descartes

• 2nd para: link captain

Done - Dumelow (talk) 09:42, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

• 3rd para: link military logistics, Paris, Arras

Done, I've added a link to Paris earlier in this section so left this particular one - Dumelow (talk) 09:42, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

• 3rd para: senior sub-intendent; in the next para an equivalent rank is given for first class sub-intendent. Can that be done here?

Yep, found a source and added them for 2nd and 3rd class, also standardised how I named the ranks ("sub-intendent second class" vs "first class sub-intendent") - Dumelow (talk) 09:49, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

First World War

• 2nd para: suggest linking Salonika and Corfu

Done - Dumelow (talk) 09:51, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

• 3rd para: he designed a new brimmed steel helmet,; this needs a greater correlation to the earlier skull cap, to reflect the discussion in the lead

I've added " Adrian developed the skull cap into..." if this works? - Dumelow (talk) 09:57, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

• some of the ordering of the cites in this section aren't chronological if it is a concern for you.

Nah, I'm easy-going on that - Dumelow (talk) 09:51, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Later life

• link Genets

Already linked in "Early career"; I have standardised the spelling to "Genêts" - Dumelow (talk) 09:51, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Other stuff

• Image tags look OK
• A bit limited in source checking, but as much as I can make out, the various pages of cite 1 support what is stated. With Google preview, I can see that cite 4 supports much of the tent stuff at least.

That's about it for me. Zawed (talk) 08:49, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the review Zawed, I've had a go at responding above - Dumelow (talk) 09:57, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Looks all good, sorry I missed those terms already linked. Passing as GA as I consider this article meets the relevant criteria. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 08:32, 5 November 2025 (UTC)