Talk:Lobe den Herren, den mächtigen König der Ehren, BWV 137/GA1

GA review

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Nominator: Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs) 19:47, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: CosXZ (talk · contribs) 23:54, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Image Review

• File:JoachimNeander.jpg source link is dead.

  how is this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:01, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

  Good. That should work. Cos ^{(X + Z)} 19:10, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

  I'll boldly replace the one in the description, - better than a dead link. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

• File:Lobe den Herren.jpg all good

Copyvio?

Earwig shows a 40.5% because of the title being repeated. Some sentences can be reworded to reduce plagiarism:

• [...] timpani, two oboes, strings and continuo. can you rearrange this list?

  sorry, no, that is a standard order in classical music which you will find in all articles on the topic, inclusding FAs --GA

• [...], the inauguration of the town council. -->[...], the establishment of the town council.

  sorry, no, that's the standard translation of Ratswahl --GA

-Cos ^{(X + Z)} 23:54, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for fighting the backlog! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

No worries. :) Cos ^{(X + Z)} 19:09, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt I'm finished reviewing the article. Final comments are below. Cos ^{(X + Z)} 17:11, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

Passing. Changes look great. :) Cos ^{(X + Z)} 00:01, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Source Review

All sources are reliable. Cos ^{(X + Z)} 23:54, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

• [3] needs page numbers

  fixed those without --GA

• will spot-check when reading prose
• [12]'s page range needs to change to 504-506 because I don't see the E minor part in the current range.

  sourced the key separately (I thought it was repeated from the table) --GA

• the second mention of [13] needs additionally p. 504 because I don't see the A minor part in its current page.

  similarly --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:20, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

  Changes look good. :) Cos ^{(X + Z)} 19:29, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Prose

Music

• [...]of [an] unusual five measures[...]

  I tried to move "unusual" - "measures" is a plural, and "an" seems not to match (but English is not my first language ...) --GA

• add a translation of "Kommst du nun, Jesu, vom Himmel herunter auf Erden"

  done (from the linked article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

  Again, changes look good. :) Cos ^{(X + Z)} 19:31, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

• In the final movement of his Christmas Oratorio[,] Bach would later embed the chorale in doric mode in a concerto in D major. how is this relevant? Also this isn't mentioned in any of the sources.

  well, this is trying to mention a similarity to something more familiar, - the Christmas Oratorio being much better known than cantatas. I added a ref, p. 182 of same book. --GA

• [...]as [a] four-part vocal setting doubled by the strings and oboes, with independent parts for [the] three trumpets and [the] timpani.

  I'm not sure, comparing other works, such as the Christmas oratorio, Jauchzet, frohlocket! Auf, preiset die Tage, BWV 248 I#1 (last para). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Recordings

• why aren't all recordings in the source on the table?

  that would be 47 and rising, - the selection is usually of the five complete sets, the Thomanerchor, other cycles (Richter, Werner), other interesting performers with links --GA

• the table needs consistent titles; either all of them translated or all of them as original

  not sure, they are the original titles of the recordings, - some trying to be international, others not so --GA

• Helmut Krebs and Franz Kelch are not mentioned in source

  good catch, sorry about that (probably to copying and not completely adjusting) --GA

• swap Pforzheim Chamber Orchestra with Württemberg Chamber Orchestra of Heilbronn to avoid OR

  same --GA

• swap Decca with Archiv Produktion to avoid OR

  same --GA

• swap Chorus Viennensis with Gerhard Schmidt-Gaden to avoid OR

  Chorus removed (chorale conductors are normally not listed) --GA

• swap Leonhardt-Consort with Concentus Musicus Wien to avoid OR

  done, - thanks for sharp eyes, - I'll now correct the German Wikipedia that faithfully translated the mistakes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

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