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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
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editHi, my name is Verna and I was assigned from my Mass Communications class to critique an article. Live Media is a good topic to write about because it's very popular, especially in this generation. However, you don't provide much information on the topic itself. Everything is relevant to the subject matter but it should require more info. Also, you did not cite your sources. Where did you get your information from? It's important to cite your sources, so you won't be accused of plagiarism. Since you mentioned social media, you can state the various types of social media. I know periscope is a popular streaming site/app where people can do live streams. People from all over will be able to see what you're doing. This is another great example you can talk about. I know a lot of famous people do live media streams, so you can indicate that. You can definitely write a lot for Live Media! Be sure to cite your sources though. Hope to work with you and any future wikipedians. Vernae2 (talk) 23:29, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
@Vernae2: Nice addition to the page and nice find on the source!Prof.bgreg (talk) 12:52, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
My Contribution
editHello, I've come up with different ideas in order to contribute to the article itself. I want to mention about the different apps/website that one can use in order to live stream. Such include, periscope, facebook live, and youtube mobile live streaming. I can also talk about how it can effect us along with social media. Also, the pros and and cons to live media. I found various sources that should help me edit this article. Vernae2 (talk) 00:33, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
References
- ↑ Pierce, David. "Periscope Now Drops Live Video Into Your Twitter Timeline". Wired. Retrieved 7 October 2016.
- ↑ Agrawal, Harsh. "Live Streaming 101 for Social Media Marketers". Jeffbullas. Retrieved 7 October 2016.
- ↑ Rao, Leena. "YouTube Finally Debuts Mobile Live Streaming". Fortune. Retrieved 7 October 2016.
- ↑ Orlin, Jon. "10 Best Practices for Live Streaming Production". Streamingmedia. Retrieved 7 October 2016.
- ↑ Stern, Joanna. "What to Know About Live Video, Social Media's Latest Craze". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 7 October 2016.
Update: Hi! Here's my draft and some notes for the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vernae2/sandbox Vernae2 (talk) 23:07, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Vernae2! I would just like to suggest that the draft should probably be rephrased for tone (e.g. avoiding addressing the reader as "you" and editorializing) to comply with the Wikipedia Manual of Style and writing policies. Cheers, Me, Myself & I (☮) (talk) 23:22, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
My Contribution & Question Regarding Article Focus
editHi folks! My name is Ike and my Social Web class assigned me to make a contribution to a Wikipedia article to understand the process of mass public information accumulation. My experience was great! I was able to bring a perspective to the discussion of livestreaming (the benefits it offers to the research community) that I do not see publicized in mainstream media. However, in the process, I feel I may have noticed a slight bias toward livestreaming in the article that I consistently also see on news outlets frightening parents of children interested in watching livestreams.
Before I made my, rather short, contribution, the article concluded in a detailed discussion of the Risks of livestreaming. The section seemed to focus (except for the final two sentences) on how ill-bent individuals utilized livestreaming as a platform for gaining notoriety for their ill deeds. However, by titling the section, "Risks," the result almost seemed to imply that individuals who livestream content or watching live-streamed content are susceptible to committing ill deeds themselves, a message that has no research backing to it.
Although I have a more positive-leaning toward the impact of well-moderated livestreams, after watching several famous livestreamers raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for charity in mere days through large platforms such as Twitch, I believe that the likely unintentional subliminal message sent by the organization of the Risks section could warrant an edit I am currently unsure of how to conduct. Could any contributors more senior to the Wikipedia community chime in? - post from Ike Kilinc
- @Ike Kilinc: Thank you for your contribution and for raising the question here. In truth, I think there are several parts of the article that could be edited. I do believe the Risks section is appropriate, but I also don't know that it needs to include some of the very detailed examples that are in the article. The key overall at Wikipedia is that we strive for a neutral point of view (NPOV). If you believe that section is NOT neutral, you are welcome to suggest here on this Talk page how you might want to change it. What are some of the sentences you might remove?
- If you want to add a section on "Positive activities" (that's not the best heading title, but you get the idea), then you could also suggest that here on this Talk page. The key is that everything we add needs to be verifiable by mentions in reliable sources. Thanks for your interest in improving Wikipedia. - Dyork (talk) 00:33, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - SU22 - Sect 202 - Tue
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Inconsistency in spelling
editIn this single article, “live stream”, “livestream” and “live-stream” are all used. I believe AP recently changed the style. No matter which is chosen, there should be consistency. 208.89.33.143 (talk) 18:34, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Not just throughout the article, but even before the second paragraph starts all 3 are used. This definetley needs to be changed. 2601:240:8301:140:A16D:2AE0:9F9B:26C4 (talk) 06:02, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA22 - Sect 201 - Thu
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Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA22 - Sect 200 - Thu
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Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Communication Studies - 2
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Requested move 14 December 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 21:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Livestreaming → Live streaming – This topic name seems more natural with the space (as a noun). If used as a verb (e.g., "We're livestreaming the lectures from the meeting room"), it might be OK without the space, but this is intended to be functioning as a noun. — BarrelProof (talk) 15:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment We're going to need a better rationale than "I think it looks weird with no space"; some evidence from reliable secondary sources would be a good start. 162 etc. (talk) 01:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- This? And 5-to-3 (with one "Live-Streaming") in the headlines of the article's cited sources. — BarrelProof (talk) 02:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Courtesy ping @Dyork:, who moved the article to its current title in 2021. 162 etc. (talk) 18:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support Seems like a case of reversing a bold move that was not backed up by the reliable sources. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:25, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Comment on now-concluded article move
editThank you, 162 etc., for the courtesy ping about the now-concluded requested move (above). Unfortunately with year-end work deadlines and other activities I was not paying attention to Wikipedia notifications for the past couple of weeks and so missed the discussion. For the record, I have no issue with the change back to “live streaming”. I am sure I had some good rationale back in 2021 to move it to “livestreaming”, but two years later I certainly see usage both with and without a space, and so am fine with the change back. Again, thanks for the ping. - Dyork (talk) 08:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 13 October 2025
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Current evidence via Ngram shows the spaced "live streaming" is the more popular use, although this may change over time. (non-admin closure) SmittenGalaxy | talk! 06:11, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
Live streaming → Livestreaming – Livestreaming is the common spelling in reliable sources. The New York Times and The Guardian. Trump 2029 🇺🇸~ MAGA 00:58, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- — Trump2029 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. This brand-new editor seems surprisingly familiar with Wikipedia editing. — BarrelProof (talk) 10:53, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- I see they have now been blocked. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:17, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- — Trump2029 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. This brand-new editor seems surprisingly familiar with Wikipedia editing. — BarrelProof (talk) 10:53, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Make Livestreaming great again! but seriously, how many times is this going to move back and forth? O.N.R. (talk) 09:44, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per Ngram and prior RM discussion of December 2023. — BarrelProof (talk) 10:53, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per BarrelProof. Ngrams for various versions of the phrase (livestream, livestreamer...) all use the space more than not. --Belbury (talk) 12:41, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support livestreaming is used in multiple reliable sources including the ones mentioned by nom and these https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/japan/airi-sato-death-tokyo-b2715019.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/26/neil-young-bans-bbc-livestream-glastonbury-set/ . GothicGolem29 (talk) 15:21, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- That's not a valid argument. In a case like this, a few sources are irrelevant. Even a few hundred sources would be irrelevant. We can easily find hundreds of sources that use "live streaming", and hundreds that use "livestreaming". Pointless. — Chrisahn (talk) 09:39, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree. It is a valid argument and I stand behind it. Reliable sources are relevant and they should be what we base the title off. I am basing it off the reliable sources I have seen through research and that has been provided here. GothicGolem29 (talk) 16:16, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed, reliable sources are relevant. That's why we should use "live streaming". I am basing it off these reliable sources: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/16/tech-giants-urged-limit-live-streaming-prevent-terrorists-showing/ https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/livestreaming-has-a-dark-side-that-no-one-seems-able-to-stop-a7050351.html https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/culture/bbc-live-streaming-bob-vylan-glastonbury-b2782024.html
- See what I did there? If you want, I can provide hundreds of other reliable sources that use "live streaming".
- I repeat: In a case like this, citing a few sources that use a certain term is pointless. The question is: Which term is more common? That question cannot be answered by picking a few sources that use one of the terms. — Chrisahn (talk) 09:24, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- If you found two stating toherwise the question then becomes what do most reliable sources say? And so far it is for Livestreaming based on the reliable sources provided so far. GothicGolem29 (talk) 17:08, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand. If I found twenty sources using "live streaming", would you say most sources say "live streaming"? — Chrisahn (talk) 20:44, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Depends on their reliability and how many I could find. GothicGolem29 (talk) 21:42, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- If I understand correctly, you're saying it could (should?) work like this: I post ten reliable sources that use "live streaming", which proves that "live streaming" is more common. Then you post twenty reliable sources that use "livestreaming", which proves that "livestreaming" is more common. Then I post thirty reliable sources that use "live streaming"... and so on. Do you understand why that approach doesn't work in a case like this? We could do this for a looong time. With language set to English and region to United States, Google tells me there are 118 million results for "live streaming" and 40 million for "livestreaming". With language set to English and region to United Kingdom, the numbers are 121 million for "live streaming" and 20 million for "livestreaming". — Chrisahn (talk) 13:56, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that is what I am saying or we both put how many we can find in one go and compare from there. How long it takes depends on how many reliable sources use each word it could be that it becomes evident very quickly which one has more reliable sources. Alot of those sources won't be reliable however which could narrow the list down. GothicGolem29 (talk) 15:19, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- All right. I'm now going to list the first 100,000 reliable sources I can find that use the term "live streaming". After I'm done, you can list 100,000 (or more, if you want) that use "livestreaming". Do we have a deal? — Chrisahn (talk) 15:26, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- I would suggest starting a bit lower than that. Or alternatively I will go away and see how many reliable sources(including he ones mentioned) I can find and then that will give a baseline. GothicGolem29 (talk) 15:30, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- OK, seriously... There are hundreds of thousands of reliable sources for either "livestreaming" or "live streaming". Listing two of them in particular is pointless. Listing two hundred would be pointless. Listing 100,000 would be pointless. In your support !vote, you mentioned two particular sources that use "livestreaming". That's not a valid argument. That's all. — Chrisahn (talk) 15:40, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- I have not seen any evidence to suggest there is that many reliable sources for each. I mentioned two on top of the sources provided by the nom. I stand by my argument and my !vote it is valid GothicGolem29 (talk) 15:51, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- OK, seriously... There are hundreds of thousands of reliable sources for either "livestreaming" or "live streaming". Listing two of them in particular is pointless. Listing two hundred would be pointless. Listing 100,000 would be pointless. In your support !vote, you mentioned two particular sources that use "livestreaming". That's not a valid argument. That's all. — Chrisahn (talk) 15:40, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- I would suggest starting a bit lower than that. Or alternatively I will go away and see how many reliable sources(including he ones mentioned) I can find and then that will give a baseline. GothicGolem29 (talk) 15:30, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- All right. I'm now going to list the first 100,000 reliable sources I can find that use the term "live streaming". After I'm done, you can list 100,000 (or more, if you want) that use "livestreaming". Do we have a deal? — Chrisahn (talk) 15:26, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that is what I am saying or we both put how many we can find in one go and compare from there. How long it takes depends on how many reliable sources use each word it could be that it becomes evident very quickly which one has more reliable sources. Alot of those sources won't be reliable however which could narrow the list down. GothicGolem29 (talk) 15:19, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- If I understand correctly, you're saying it could (should?) work like this: I post ten reliable sources that use "live streaming", which proves that "live streaming" is more common. Then you post twenty reliable sources that use "livestreaming", which proves that "livestreaming" is more common. Then I post thirty reliable sources that use "live streaming"... and so on. Do you understand why that approach doesn't work in a case like this? We could do this for a looong time. With language set to English and region to United States, Google tells me there are 118 million results for "live streaming" and 40 million for "livestreaming". With language set to English and region to United Kingdom, the numbers are 121 million for "live streaming" and 20 million for "livestreaming". — Chrisahn (talk) 13:56, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Depends on their reliability and how many I could find. GothicGolem29 (talk) 21:42, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand. If I found twenty sources using "live streaming", would you say most sources say "live streaming"? — Chrisahn (talk) 20:44, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- If you found two stating toherwise the question then becomes what do most reliable sources say? And so far it is for Livestreaming based on the reliable sources provided so far. GothicGolem29 (talk) 17:08, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree. It is a valid argument and I stand behind it. Reliable sources are relevant and they should be what we base the title off. I am basing it off the reliable sources I have seen through research and that has been provided here. GothicGolem29 (talk) 16:16, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- That's not a valid argument. In a case like this, a few sources are irrelevant. Even a few hundred sources would be irrelevant. We can easily find hundreds of sources that use "live streaming", and hundreds that use "livestreaming". Pointless. — Chrisahn (talk) 09:39, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. The trend in English suggests that the closed compound livestreaming will likely become dominant but we're not there yet. Dictionaries and other reference works are mixed as to which variant they prefer. Ngram shows a preference for live streaming in sources. Usage may be changing rapidly here so it is reasonable to re-evaluate periodically. The handful of sources shared aren't enough to show which usage is truly most common today. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 16:18, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
Lack of a "History" section.
editI recommending adding a section/topic in the article for the history of live streaming and its origins. I'm surprised that this article lacks one, despite it showing up in Google search results for "what was the first livestream". Stargazer49 (talk) 20:27, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
- Agree - I agree with Stargazer49 that this article should have a "History" section... and I'm also surprised that there isn't one! Having said that... I don't have cycles to work on something like that myself right now. But it would be great if someone did have the cycles to add one! - Dyork (talk) 16:35, 11 February 2026 (UTC)