Talk:Liu Shasha

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Sophisticatedevening (talk) 06:11, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that Liu Shasha didn't own a mobile phone because it might take away from her learning billiards? Source: https://www.chinanews.com/ty/ty-zhqt/news/2010/02-02/2104222.shtml
  • ALT1: ... that Liu Shasha and Fu Xiaofang came from the same village and won the WPA Women's World Nine-ball Championship in back-to-back years? Source: https://www.chinanews.com/ty/ty-zhqt/news/2010/02-02/2104222.shtml
  • ALT2: ... that Liu Shasha won the first WPA Women's World Nine-ball Championship that she entered, aged 16? Source: http://www.china.org.cn/sports/2009-11/27/content_18964502.htm
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ashokan Rail Trail
  • Comment: Loads of options. Crazy life and career

5x expanded by Lee Vilenski (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 72 past nominations.

Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:57, 12 January 2026 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Interesting article. One of my main complaints is that of the sources should be formatted properly. Many are written in Chinese and should be specified as such, and many only have urls, titles, and websites (i.e. missing dates, access dates, authors, etc.). Nevertheless, the main hook is interesting enough, although when I used Google Translate on the provided source, it didn't explicitly say the hook, all I found was I don't have a phone in my hometown, and I don't want to go back. Unless I'm misreading it (or Google Translate is failing me), is there another source that explicitly supports the main hook? ALT2 is the more interesting hook of the two (to me) and is sourced, although I would reword it to something like ... that Liu Shasha was the youngest winner of the WPA Women's World Nine-ball Championship at age 16? – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 16:36, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Whoops, ref is this one:- , Furthermore, Liu Shasha doesn't even have a mobile phone yet. "What's the point of a mobile phone? I can just use a landline to call home. Besides, I have very poor self-control. If I had one, I'd definitely be playing games or surfing the internet all the time, and I wouldn't be able to play billiards well." Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:24, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Sweet. Main hook looks good to me. – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 17:26, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

GA review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Liu Shasha/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 19:38, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 20:39, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

I'll review this nomination because of your good review/nominations ratio. Keep it up! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:39, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear, concise and understandable to an appropriately broad audience, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

General comments

• I've done a light copyedit of the article; let me know if you have any issues.
  • Yeah, no drama, it's not my strongest suit, I'll admit. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:08, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
• Article is stable, neutral, focused, and broad. No images—there don't seem to be any on Commons.
  • I did do a scour and looked for something I could use. Nothing on Flikr, couldn't get any help on reddit. Don't think there's a suitable way to handle this with fair use. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:08, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
• Most sources seem good. Concerned about the following:
  • [Fu Xiaofang and Liu Shasha, the billiards sisters] from "All journals"—not seeing anything citeable from the dubious website as WP:HEADLINES aren't reliable.
    • Not sure what's happening. There was an article here. I think All Journals is a publication reader website, but it looks like it's been hacked or some such. Happy to remove it, it's not citing anything additional. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:08, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
  • One of my scripts is indicating that citation 74 is considered unreliable on zh.wiki (pointing to zh:Wikipedia:可靠来源/常见有争议来源列表). From what I can gather, Toutiao is like a Chinese cross between Google News and Buzzfeed. If there's an underlying source, it would be best to cite that directly.
    • I got as far as , but couldn't find the bit about this page. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:17, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
  • The BLP-relevant claim about her children is cited to this website, which doesn't load for me—could you provide a quote?
    • It's this . From world champion to mother of two. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:17, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
    • Unsure why page is broken. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:19, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
  • One of the sources for the promotional claim "She was both the youngest winner of the event and the first to win coming through qualification" is an equipment sponsor, I believe, so not really WP:INDEPENDENT.
    • I'm not really sure this is a promotional claim. Being the youngest to do something, or to be a qualifier is quite a normal point in sports (so much so, we often shout about people being the second youngest to do something). Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:19, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
• I'll do a source spotcheck once the above issues are resolved. Putting on hold for now. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:58, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

• @AirshipJungleman29 and Lee Vilenski: Where does this nomination stand? Is it ready for promotion? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 18:03, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
  • This table lists 9 random passages from throughout the article (10.2% of 88 total passages).

These passages contain 11 inline citations (9.4% of 117 in the article). Generated with the Veracity user script. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:39, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Reference #	Letter	Source	Archive	Status	Notes
In 2007, Liu switched from billiards to play nine-ball under new coach Zhang Shuchun.
4	e	chinanews.com			The source seems to say that she switched from playing eight-ball, not from billiards; is there a difference?
Following the win, Liu won China Central Television's "Best Non-Olympic Athlete of the Year" award at their Sports Personality of the Year event.
4	g	chinanews.com
She competed in the 2010 China 9-Ball Open, reaching the quarter-finals, where she played her opponent from the 2009 World final Karen Corr, losing 2‍–‍9.
24		sports.sina.com.cn
25		billi-walker.jp
Liu, however, did defeat Fisher at the Beijing Open last 16, before being defeated in the quarter-finals by Chou Chieh-Yu.
32		billi-walker.jp			Unless I'm missing something, she defeated Allison Fisher in the last 16, not Kelly as the article implies.
In defending her world nine-ball championship at the 2015 WPA Women's World Nine-ball Championship, she reached the final again, where she played Ouschan. Liu won five out of the first six racks and completed a 9‍–‍4 victory.
53		sports.cntv.cn
54		isports.ifeng.com
Liu had led 6‍–‍2, but was unable to win the match. She lost her place as world number one at the end of the tournament.
1	b	sports.sina.cn
She competed at the returning 2023 China Open, which had not been held since 2019.
79	b	jingdian147.com
Liu entered the 2024 Asian ten-ball championship where she reached the final, and defeated Rubilen Amit in the final 7‍–‍6.
83	a	mb.com.ph
WPA Women's World Nine-ball Championship (2009, 2014, 2015)
96		azbilliards.com	web.archive.org

Just a couple of issues to resolve Lee Vilenski; nothing to prevent promotion. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:39, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Re: source 4:- it says 8-ball tables (or at least my translation does). Chinese eight-ball is actually a different game from Eight-ball. There's an argument that it isn't pool, it's pocket billiards, and the rest of the article says she learns to play billiards (and indeed, billiards is sometimes used as a catch all for all games played with balls on a table). The important part is that she started playing Nine-ball quite late, despite that being her main game. The quote is that she found the smaller Nine-ball tables easier to play on because she was used to a Chinese eitht-ball table, which are significantly larger than a nine or eight-ball table (and have tighter pockets). Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:09, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

re: 32, they both have the same last name, just need to put in a first name. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:10, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

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