Talk:Little Ice Age

Biased chart

What a biased chart you have. Medieval warm period colder than years before? :) It was well written in ClimateGate emails that they make an additional work to lower the temperatures in "Medieval warm period", so current GW would more alarming. Biased chart, biased science. 95.103.178.167 (talk) 07:26, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The so-called climategate "conspiracy" was proven in multiple studies to have involved no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct. —RCraig09 (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The medieval warming period was warmer and over a broad duration the graph shows the warming period at a flatter data pool. It does seem bias. 96.233.147.155 (talk) 11:52, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

See Smithsonian data pool. https://www.science.smith.edu/climatelit/the-effects-of-the-little-ice-age/#:~:text=Even%20though%20average%20annual%20temperatures,relative%20to%20thousand%2Dyear%20averages. 96.233.147.155 (talk) 11:52, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I stand self corrcted the aggregate is a different pool sample pool for the Smithsonian data. 96.233.147.155 (talk) 11:58, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

It was not a true ice age of global extent

This article seems quite contradictory, it says that the LIA suggests largely independent regional climate changes rather than a global synchronous event. However looking at the section about regions, almost all seem to have the same coldest period (late 16th-19th century) North America, Africa, South Africa, China, Australia and New Zealand, Middle East and Antarctica whose results show synchronous cooling with the Greenland ice core. Your first region that you cover is Europe, and your opening phrase is: Drangajokull, Iceland’s northermost glacier, reached its maximum extent during the LIA around 1400 CE! this seems quite remarkable as most regions experienced cooling in the 16th- 19th C, this is quite a big mistake the conclusion of the paper states the maximum extent around 1665 +_30CE or 1765+_ 40CE, the glacier STARTS to grow around 1400CE! A large difference. In Mann 2003 “Little Age Age” it says that North America was not cooler in the 17th C despite the evidence in you article, however there seemed to be extreme cold periods in the 19th C, he justifies this because New York Harbour froze over during this period. The Thames froze over in 1739-40, 1789, and 1814, the Hudson River froze over in 1720,1780 and 1821! Quite a similar period in time. 92.184.145.3 (talk) 20:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

The deciding factor re whether something is global is the global average temperature plotted continuously over time. Here, the lead graphic shows LIA to not be global in extent. —RCraig09 (talk) 03:05, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Drangajokull glacier

The first phrase in the section about Europe says that the Drangajokull glacier reached its maximum LIA extent around 1400. In the paper by David J Harning the conclusion says “the final expansion to its peak LIA dimensions most likely occurred at either 1665+_30CE or 1765+_40CE” The figure 1400 is extremely misleading. 92.184.145.3 (talk) 07:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Thomas Gorges

Cite: In 1642, Thomas Gorges wrote that between 1637 and 1645, colonists in Maine (then part of Massachusetts) experienced horrendous weather conditions

Excuse me, but how Gorges in 1642 could wrote anything about 1643-1645? Looks like some kind of a misprint 5.44.172.117 (talk) 17:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Well spotted!

I reviewed the source and it appears that Thomas Gorges wrote about the weather repeatedly and that two examples of this got merged together in the article you cited.

I'm not personally super familiar with the subject at hand, so I just removed the start of the sentence. If you'd like to improve upon this yourself, you're welcome to be WP:BOLD and do your best! No contribution is ever perfect; the wiki is improved by editors each building on others' work.

···sardonism · t · c 18:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Wrong maths or years?

During the 14th century, cold winters were the norm, except for the 48 years between 1340 and 1377.

It's either 48 years, or it's the years between 1340 and 1377 - but it can't be both.

I'm not sure what the correct one is though? CallymCallym (talk) 00:25, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

The whole sub-section on Europe is very unsatisfactory. First there is a paragraph on central Europe, and it is not clear whether the following coverage of winter is for central or the whole of Europe. Winter is unreferenced unless the Pfister cite at the end covers all the comments above. It needs clarifying by someone who has access to the relevant sources. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:27, 19 January 2026 (UTC)