Talk:List of state highways in California

Requested move 16 May 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 21:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

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• List of state highways in California → List of state routes in CaliforniaList of state routes in California
• List of state highways in California (pre-1964) → List of state routes in California (pre–1964)
• List of unconstructed state highways in California → List of proposed state routes in California
• List of deleted state highways in California → List of former state routes in California

– In California, these highways called "state routes", not "state highways". 2600:1700:6180:6290:519D:B2B0:5191:3032 (talk) 20:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support per WP:USSH (WP:Naming conventions (U.S. state and territory highways) and CONSISTENCY with most of the other lists in the guideline, e.g. List of state routes in Washington, List of state routes in Ohio, List of state routes in Arizona, List of state routes in Alabama. Note that Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Highways also directs editors to follow the guideline at WP:USSH. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 20:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

No objection to reasoning below from Imzadi and Zzyzx11. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 15:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose—I appreciate the argument to consistency, but legally as defined in California's Streets and Highways Code, these are all "state highways" that just happen to have "route" numbers. In other words, the collective term as used in the SHC is "state highway". The current names should remain the same. There are other issues with the other proposed changes, and they should not be adopted. For example, the various unconstructed state highways aren't just proposed. They actually legally exist, even if the roadway surface has not yet been constructed for them. We could quibble about "deleted" vs. "former", but the former is a bit more precise in that they were deleted from the SHC. Lastly, I'll point out that the local vernacular in parts of California frequently refers to them as "Highway X" instead of "State Route X", excluding freeways called just "the X" in SoCal. Imzadi 1979 → 08:00, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. WP:USSH only governs the individual highway routes, not the larger highway systems. For example, U.S. Route 1 is part of the United States Numbered Highway System -- the former is not currently titled "U.S. Numbered Highway 1" or even "U.S. Highway 1", and the latter is not titled "U.S. Routes". And it's List of United States Numbered Highways, not "List of U.S. Routes". And we also have similar situations like List of primary state highways in Kentucky coexisting with Kentucky Route 3, and List of state highways in Maryland versus Maryland Route 2. Likewise, the individual California routes may be at "California State Route X", but the larger system is still referred to as the "state highway system". Furthermore, as Imzadi1979 basically pointed out, California highways that are "unconstructed" still legally exist, with their basic routing defined in California's Streets and Highways Code . Also, many of these "unconstructed" highways that are listed are "partially unconstructed", meaning segments of these routes have already been completed and open to the public, so the word "proposed" may give the initial false impression that these segments are not open yet. And using "former" may also have a problem because there may be situations where a highway may close down or be turned over to local control, but its legal definition remains in the highway code. Zzyzx11 (talk) 09:19, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

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