Talk:Liburna

This article was copy edited by SheriffIsInTown, a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, on 31 March 2024.Guild of Copy EditorsWikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsTemplate:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsGuild of Copy Editors

Ships

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ships, a project to improve all Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please join the project, or contribute to the project discussion. All interested editors are welcome. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.ShipsWikipedia:WikiProject ShipsTemplate:WikiProject ShipsShips

Illyria Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Illyria, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Illyria and Illyrians on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IllyriaWikipedia:WikiProject IllyriaTemplate:WikiProject IllyriaIllyria
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Classical Greece and Rome Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome, a group of contributors interested in Wikipedia's articles on classics. If you would like to join the WikiProject or learn how to contribute, please see our project page. If you need assistance from a classicist, please see our talk page.Classical Greece and RomeWikipedia:WikiProject Classical Greece and RomeTemplate:WikiProject Classical Greece and RomeClassical Greece and Rome
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Military history: Maritime / Classical

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion not met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Maritime warfare task force
	Classical warfare task force (c. 700 BC – c. 500 AD)

History of Science Low‑importance

	This article is part of the History of Science WikiProject, an attempt to improve and organize the history of science content on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. You can also help with the History of Science Collaboration of the Month.History of ScienceWikipedia:WikiProject History of ScienceTemplate:WikiProject History of Sciencehistory of science
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Problem with Morrison & Coates 1996 reference

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The citation given as Morrison & Coates (1996) added in this edit of 10:11, 28 January 2020 by Blue Branson (talk · contribs) (indeffed sock), lists the title as "Greek and Roman Warships 399–30 B.C.". It is listed in the § Sources section this way:

{{cite book|last1=Morrison|first1=J. S.|last2=Coates|first2=J. F.|year=1996|title=Greek and Roman Warships 399–30 B.C.|location=Oxford|publisher=Oxford University Press|ref=harv}}

but there is no book by Morrison & Coates by that name. Perhaps this refers to their 1996 book entitled, "Greek and Roman Oared Warships" (isbn=9781900188074, oclc=36238343; 403 pages), or perhaps their 2016 book entitled, "Greek and Roman Oared Warships 399-30BC", (isbn=9781785704017, oclc=8183635058; 420 pages). Given the longer title including the "399–30 B.C." in the citation in the article, it seems likely it's the 2016 book, and yet the citation date given is 1996. Maybe someone with access to these can resolve this, because in-line citations give page numbers which can only be correct for one of them, but not the other. Mathglot (talk) 23:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Speed of the liburnian relative to the Trireme. Conflicting sources

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The article states that "remaining faster, lighter, and more agile than triremes". I believe the speed of the vessel relative to Triremes can be disputed. Notably, John Morrison in "Greek and Roman Oared Warships" states that the Trireme was faster than a Liburnian on page 323 and it states that "Threes are mentioned because they were the fastest cataphract ships the Romans had, and light as well" on page 114 .

This to me indicates reasonable doubt to the assertion the the vessel was in fact faster than the trireme at the minimum. Personally, I believe Morrison's interpretation as correct, notably because of the significant changes within the almost 5 decades of development within the field that has led to a greater understanding of the vessels. 84.66.235.3 (talk) 14:25, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Add topic