Talk:Leet

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not sure how the algospeak section is relevant

" Algospeak shares conceptual similarities with leet, albeit with its primary purpose to circumvent algorithmic censorship online."

" Variants of leet have been used to evade censorship for many years; "

algospeak is essentially just derivative vocabulary of leet that has popularized itself from tiktok, but i don't see how it's significant in differentiating the two, other than the relevance of people using it alternatively in present day. I don't think it needs its own section because this topic is on leet specifically, and I feel like algospeak should be its own topic page that directs to leets origins, not the other way around.

I don't necessarily think that " The approach has gained more popularity in 2023 and 2024 due to the rise in conflict between Israel and Gaza with the topic's contentious nature on the Internet, especially on Meta and TikTok platforms" is relevant either, this is a subsection of the internet trying to tie leet and algospeech in the formative communication system in people regarding current events. i've been active in social media discussing the war against gaza and not once have I seen anything related to algospeak, I didn't even know what that was.

also I don't get how examples like "restarded" "(provides) either the same general meaning, pronunciation, or shape of the original word." in a context that " evade automated online moderation techniques, especially those that are considered unfair or hindering free speech. " really???

also i'm pretty sure using words like "unalive" refer to people who blacklist triggering words like suicide so they don't see them in an irrelevant context, and using the softer alternative is primarily used by people providing information on a subject or event as they are aware of those who blacklist those words.

this whole section is a mess Contributioncat (talk) 07:05, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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1337speak - obfuscates text a li'l to avoid getting b&ed by mods.

4160speak - again, obfuscates text a li'l to avoid getting b&ed by mods.

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"Restarted people" in place of "retarded people" - makes sense in general context

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f11111111111111111111111111111ne. BRB fixing. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 13:05, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. Petition to spin off Algospeak as its own article, since its lexicon is so distinct from leet, and the demographic creating it is so disconnected from the demographic that created leet. Given how alive and dynamic algospeak is, it no longer makes sense to have the two share a page. --Quintopia (talk) 16:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more! LEET is more Web 1.0; I would put algospeak at, like, Web 2.5.

Attributing the growth of algospeak to social media discussions of the war on Gaza is pretty weird. Its rise in popularity is honestly directly correlated to TikTok's; it appeared online as part and parcel of short-form vertical video content. This section is a bit too long and has a bit too much information that isn't actually related to LEET. It's definitely worth keeping the concept on this page, but it really should just be a short note on how algospeak is a similar phenomenon.

A note on the intent of words like unalive—IIRC from the quarantine trenches, the earliest wave of tiktok algospeak was motivated by a fear of shadowbanning, and not at all from a broad social awareness of peoples' potentially blacklisted terms/triggers...if anything doing so is completely counterproductive to that. The whole idea, at its core, is to dodge a filter. Wlwdwi (talk) 17:16, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Vanity license plate leets

Diverse vanity license plates form leets, as "0HR4CC" ("OHRACC"), "0L1V14" ("OLIVIA"), "1288P5" ("128BPS"), "457ERS" ("ASTERS"), "5U553X" ("SUSSEX"), "648175" ("64BITS"), "813BER" ("BIEBER"), "90K3Y5" ("90KEYS"), "BAR813" ("BARBIE"), "CHR157" ("CHRIST"), "D4N13L" ("DANIEL"), "D4N63R" ("DANGER"), "H17L3R" ("HITLER"), "K15535" ("KISSES") "L687Q1" ("LGBTQI"), "V4NU54" ("VANUSA"), "W0ND3R" ("WONDER") and so on.

189.50.179.220 (talk) 12:46, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Could use a repost of xkcd #1105, where Cueball got a mix of Is and 1s as his vanity plate, then. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 12:03, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

• Quite a feat to pull a similar trick in Russia it is. P036CK, X004ET and B004KO RUS-format license plates are among the few possible "leet vanity" combinations, however. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 10:00, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Compare to grawlixes, obscenicons, bowdlerisation, etc.?

Is Leetspeak the same as grawlixes (https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/86838/what-the-is-that-called)? Does it include obscenicons? (the article currently mentions neither) Leet might also bear similarities to bowdlerisation, another way of obfuscating text by messing with its letters. ~2025-32589-38 (talk) 23:31, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

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