Talk:Kosovo Liberation Army

Edit Request to Remove Section on KLA links with Al-Qaeda

While some evidence can suggest a potential KLA links to elements of Al-Qaeda, the subsection was written from a point of bias from a Bosnian Serb currently blocked on editing indefinitely due to edit warring in articles similar in nature to that of the KLA, as well as one of the primary sources of the subsection coming from the Executive Intelligence Review, a source that has spread unverified fringe conspiracies in the past, as well as being intelligence briefings only sourced to LaRouche in its reporting as mentioned by the CIA (https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00845R000100310008-5.pdf), and is not particularly credible as a resource for a website like Wikipedia, as well as alleged links presented as being true with other resources, when the sources themselves are fully read. That statement alone is not warranting of an entire subsection, and source 201/202 can easily be mentioned within the context of the subsection “Status as a Terrorist Group”, which is how I believe the article should be re-edited, along with the removal of the “Links with Al-Qaeda” subsection. User6382915247 (talk) 20:35, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I agree with the removal of the content cited to Executive Intelligence Review. We should not rely on sources that promote conspiracy theories. There is also an unsourced claim by a 9/11 conspiracy theorist there, which should be removed too. You have not commented about source 202. I would support the integration of the good content elsewhere, which would also require some rewriting. StephenMacky1 (talk) 20:51, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I briefly reflected on source 202 on the original comment, but the evidence itself from the archived article looks a bit dubious by nature, and not much other information can really be found from my perspective on the source itself, or any major backing of it. I’m amenable to adding the source in, but I’m not exactly sure it qualifies as “good” in the same way 201 is. I can go ahead with the rewriting in the meantime. User6382915247 (talk) 20:59, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I see now that Executive Intelligence Review is indeed problematic - maybe that article should be updated too. Alaexis_¿question? 21:35, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

I'll agree with the removal of the proposed content per arguments made above. AlexBachmann (talk) 23:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Differentiating between established facts and rumors

This article consistently presents rumors about the KLA, such as possible direct and active participation in drug trade, and accusations of massacres, as objective facts despite not having been proven (see the "Massacres" section). Although I am supposed to assume that all edits are made in good faith, it appears that this article is being used to smear the KLA rather than provide an objective summary. Arian202 (talk) 05:42, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

It's not the encyclopedia's job to portray any topic positively or negatively, but follow what sources say (WP:NPOV). There were obviously elements of the KLA implicated in atrocities and illicit activity. If anything, the article is diligent in presenting counterbalancing opinions via reliable sources, and attributing certain information to Serbia. If you have a reliable source contradicting certain information, you can add that info, but original research is not allowed as you did in your removal and addition of information. --Griboski (talk) 16:57, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

You are adding irrelevant information, such as the Panda Bar attack, an event which even Serbian sources admit was not done by KLA members. Furthermore, the text on the Massacres section clearly depicts Serbian government allegations as established facts. As you said yourself, we should follow what sources say, and I will take the words of the HRW and ICTY over the Serbian government Arian202 (talk) 17:36, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Your edit here added info about Milošević that isn't in the cited sources, and outdated info from HRW that isn't in the cited reference either. In addition to removing other content. You are engaging in disruptive editing. Please stop. If there's an issue with a particular massacre, discuss changes here. Griboski (talk) 17:59, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

I have removed the passage about Milosevic, but my issue still stands. Allegations by the Serbian government on a sensitive issue like this one can not be taken as 100 percent factual. As such, I am referring to respecting institutions like the ICTY. Arian202 (talk) 18:04, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

And they aren't. They're just presented as allegations. As I mentioned above, you removed more things as well and you added improper WP:SYNTH of material as well as repetitive information. Griboski (talk) 18:19, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

They are not presented as allegations. The writer of those sections referenced dubious Serbian sources only Arian202 (talk) 18:20, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Clarification was added, including comments by HRW. --Griboski (talk) 18:52, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

I think this article should contain separate sections for trials in Serbia and Kosovo because the layout is kinda confusing right now. The Klecka case should be also updated and more information should be included here too. That article was recently updated. StephenMacky1 (talk) 19:12, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

I added information, though I don't think specific cases should extensively be detailed here because this is a general overview of the KLA. There's only a couple of cases that were tried in Serbia as far as I know, the rest in the Hague. Kosovo doesn't generally try KLA members. The issue is that there's an "investigation for war crimes" section and "trial at the Hague" mini-section in a totally different spot. Maybe merge the last into the first? Griboski (talk) 19:53, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Not extensively detailed, but the case could have some basic overview here. There were some KLA members, such as Sylejman Selimi, who were tried in Kosovo. See this source for example. StephenMacky1 (talk) 20:21, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Well, we now have information about trials in the Hague, briefly Serbia and under international supervision in Kosovo as well as local courts in one place. Griboski (talk) 20:36, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2026

Uçk also known as a terrorist organisation in all the balkan countries has done many terrorist attacks on many countries including Serbia and North Macedonia. In 2001 they invaded North Macedonia on the northern part entering homes of civilians and killing them in gruesome ways. To this day the EU and the rest of the world deny to accept and name uçk as a terrorist organisation even tho the ideologies of the organisation and their supporters are extremistic. The balkan countries have reached out to the EU for the recognition multiple times wanting to get them to accept the terrorist attacks and war crimes committed by this organisation but the answer has always been negative. ~2026-30605-64 (talk) 06:35, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 08:52, 22 May 2026 (UTC)