Talk:Kingdom of Elfed

Defensive Earthworks

More recent research suggests that the earthworks, known as Becca Banks, were not constructed by Elmet but were much earlier. According to An Archaeological Research Agenda for West Yorkshire The Iron Age and Romano-British Periods, "South Dyke and Becca Banks were investigated during the M1-A1 Link Road scheme. Although artefacts were sparse,14C dates suggested both were constructed during the later Iron Age. The ditch of Becca Banks was possibly re-cut in the Roman period, and was still extant centuries laterwhen it formed a edieval township, parish and wapentake boundary (Wheelhouse and Burgess 2001: 137, 144, 148). A few radiocarbon dates obtained from samples of ditch ills from Grim’s Ditch suggested an earlier Iron Age origin, with possible redefinition and re-use in the Roman period (Morris 1999; Wheelhouse and Burgess 2001)"

Although they perhaps had some significance or use in the 6th-Century, their construction in this period seems to have been disproven by the archaeology. Paul S (talk) 18:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Nobody has anything to say on this? Removing the dubious sentence. Paul S (talk) 00:16, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

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I have been told that Arthuis of Elmet didn't exist.

What are the sources for his existence?--JaredMithrandir (talk) 19:40, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

The names are from a Welsh genealogy, supposing that Ceretic/Certic of the AS Chronicle is the same as the Welsh Ceredig ap Gwallog. They are his ancestors, but it doesn't follow that they were also Kings of Elmet. Paul S (talk) 20:31, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Elmet

Why has this page been hijacked and renamed Elfed from Elmet? The Welsh name for this kingdom/region maybe Elfed, but it’s Elmet. ~2026-28548-13 (talk) 23:53, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

Elmet seems to be roughly twice as common:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=elfed%2C+elmet&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3 Peter Flass (talk) 23:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

I moved the article per wp:commonname. Someone should edit the article to reverse the precedence of names. Peter Flass (talk) 00:26, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Done. Peter Flass (talk) 03:20, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

It has been changed back again by a user citing a variety of sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tipcake#Kingdom_of_Elfed

I agree with the above comment here that Elmet is the common and widely used name ~2026-29231-20 (talk) 12:22, 15 May 2026 (UTC)