Talk:Killing of members of the Bani Odeh family
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 | On 16 March 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Killing of Bani Odeh family to Killing of members of the Bani Odeh family. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 16 March 2026
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Pedantic, but consensus to move for precision is there. Since the point of grammar on 'the' is raised as well and given that there is noun stacking here, per bartending, the proposed title is modified to "Killing of members of the Bani Odeh family". – robertsky (talk) 12:28, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
Killing of Bani Odeh family → ? – The current title gives the false impression that the entire Bani Odeh family was killed. Evaporation123 (talk) 20:33, 16 March 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 10:42, 30 March 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 03:49, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- it does - how about title <Killing of Bani Odeh family members> Nedian91 (talk) 23:50, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- “Killing of Bani Odeh family members” is much clearer and avoids the misleading implication that the entire family was killed. Nedian91 (talk) 23:51, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
- This would work. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 22:14, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- We expect our readers to have some common sense. We don't expect them to come to this article, read the title and go away without reading the article. They only have to read the very first paragraph to see that the entire family wasn't killed. It's just pedantry to want to give a precise description of the event in the article title. Obi2canibe (talk) 11:33, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
- The one sure thing is that it's missing the word the before the surname. Borgenland (talk) 11:37, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Palestine, WikiProject Military history, WikiProject Israel, and WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPathtalk 10:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- What about "Bani Odeh family killings"? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 11:15, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- might imply it's the family doing the killings? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:40, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
Date
edit@Evaporation123: Please stop changing the date of the shooting to 14 March without providing any source, violating WP:V. The sources provided in the article, and others, point to the shooting occurring in the early hours of Sunday 15 March:
- Haaretz: "A father, mother, and two of their children were killed overnight into Sunday".
- El Pais: "the Odeh family who were killed in their car by Israeli security forces during an army operation in Tammun, West Bank, Sunday, March 15, 2026".
- France24: "Israeli soldiers shot and killed four people, including two children, in the northern occupied West Bank on Sunday".
- NBC: "Israeli forces killed a Palestinian father, mother and two of their children as they drove in the occupied West Bank on Sunday".
- The National: "Most Israelis will never see the crushed expression of Mustafa Bani Odeh, eight, tears streaming down his bruised face as he attended the funeral of his family, who were killed by Israeli troops on Sunday".
- Amnesty: "Responding to the killing on 15 March of a Palestinian couple, Waed Bani Owda, her husband Ali Bani Owda and two of their young children Othman, 7, and Mohammed, 5, in Tammoun".
- DCI: "Othman Ali Khaled Bani Odeh, six, and his brother Mohammad, five, were shot and killed by Israeli forces while riding in the backseat of their family’s car around 1:30 a.m. on March 15".
- Al Jazeera: "Ali Khaled Bani Odeh, 37, his 35-year-old wife Waad, and two of their children...were shot in the head in the village of Tammun on Sunday".
- NYT: "On Saturday night, the boys persuaded him to take them out for a drive".
- Guardian: "were driving through their home town of Tamoun late on Saturday when Israeli forces opened fire".
- Times: "A Palestinian couple and two of their young children were killed...on Saturday night".
- BBC: "The family...had been minutes from home when they were killed, in the village of Tammun, near Tubas, just after midnight on Saturday".
If the shooting occurred early on Saturday 14 March why isn't there a single news source from 14 March? Is it plausible in this day and age that a it took more than 24 hours for news sites to report this shooting? And, BTW, Saturday night means the period between sunset Saturday and sunrise Sunday. Obi2canibe (talk) 11:23, 17 March 2026 (UTC)