Talk:Israel in the Eurovision Song Contest 2025
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May withdraw = a threat to withdraw
editPdhadam, please self revert. You basically acknowledged that Slovenia threatened to withdraw when your wrote in the edit summary that they may withdraw. Your addition of a wiki does not meet WP:RS standards. Please revert that one too. --The Mountain of Eden (talk) 02:48, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- As reported in the original Slovenian article, RTVSLO's board tabled three options:
- The management of RTV Slovenia should immediately initiate a request within the EBU that Israel not participate in the Eurovision Song Contest. In the event of Israel's participation, Slovenia will not participate and will not broadcast the event.
- The management of RTV Slovenia should immediately initiate a request within the EBU that Israel not participate in the Eurovision Song Contest. In the event of Israel's participation, we black out the broadcast of Israel's performance.
- The management of RTV Slovenia should immediately initiate a request within the EBU for Israel not to participate in the Eurovision Song Contest. The RTV Council and the public should be kept informed of these efforts.
- The third option being chosen meant that Slovenia is still competing, therefore using "threaten" would misinterpret the original intentions of RTVSLO, which other outlets may have done including the article you referenced. Perhaps a better phrasing would be "a withdrawal from the contest or censorship of Israel's performance were among the options considered by the broadcaster"? Pdhadam (talk) 11:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- It appears that the Solvenian Slovenian article you reference is out of date.
- Haaretz has an article that is dated two days later which states that Slovenia did issue a threat to withdraw. While the contents of the article from Haaretz are behind a paywall, they are quoted by the London based New Arab in this article. --The Mountain of Eden (talk) 14:12, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Quoting from the Haaretz article: "The letter, however, stops short of committing Slovenia to withdrawing from the contest if the EBU rejects the demand. It does not provide a specific reason for the request to exclude Israel, and no such explanation appears in the meeting minutes. The EBU has not yet commented on the letter." - the article did not say whether there was an explicit threat to withdraw. I'm also raising doubts on whether Haaretz (and other outlets by extension) also has sources within RTVSLO, or just simply that they carried quotes from the original Slovenian article - a complex issue such as this means that outlets on both sides of the conflict may apply their own interpretations. For the sake of accuracy, quoting the Slovenian article directly should be favoured in my view, and the new phrasing I proposed can work in this regard Pdhadam (talk) 15:37, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
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Ad campaign
editCan that be mentioned? The channel only for the campaign https://youtube.com/@votenewdaywillrise has already got five million views sponsored by the Israeli Government Advertising Agency https://adstransparency.google.com/advertiser/AR00827556497616535553 HLFan (talk) 07:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- A Eurovision News (the EBU's official site) investigation uncovered evidence that the Israeli government sponsored a large ad campaign. This really should be mentioned in the article somewhere. Jpatokal (talk) 09:38, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Performer background
editAt the time of Israeli representative final selection, as well as at later stages, multiple international news outlets pointed out that the singer Yuval Raphael was a survivor of October 7 massacre at the Nova music festival. Seems high-profile enough to add to the text, but where? Deinocheirus (talk) 14:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)