Talk:Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps

Latest comment: 1 month ago by ~2026-26886-94 in topic Switzerland: Motion to classify the terrorists.

Add Lithuania to the list of governments recognizing the IRGC as a terrorist organization

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Lithuania now recognizes the IRGC as a terrorist organization.

The establishment of Islamic Republic of Iran(Al-Qamar)

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Allah Akbar Imag3324 (talk) 20:37, 11 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for welcoming me. Imag3324 (talk) 20:39, 11 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Imag3324: Not exactly sure what you're looking for here, (possibly this: Iran#Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution...?) Article talk pages are usually used for discussing changes to the article. If you're requesting an edit to this article, you need to post it in a "change X to Y" format, and include reliable sources to support the changes. See the "welcome" template on your user talk page for more information on how to edit Wikipedia. - wolf 00:15, 12 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

nuclear

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you cant easily make things up and get away , you keep deleting well sourced text pahlevun show the source that says it is not an independet branch but just a unit or revert your edits.

Baratiiman (talk) 18:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

I don't think that citing poor sources in Persian is a good idea, but since you can apparently understand Persian: . Pahlevun (talk) 18:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Wikaviani: You shouldn't have restored the flags, even if you point on the content dispute was correct. See MOS:INFOBOXFLAG for the reason. Pahlevun (talk) 18:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
You are correct, my apologies, i restored the flags. Best.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 18:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
The flags should be removed: "Generally, flag icons should not be used in infoboxes, even when there is a "country", "nationality" or equivalent field". Pahlevun (talk) 18:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Etymology of Sepah

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Please add the below text to the "Terminology" section:

Sepâh was known in Avestan language as "Sepâze", in Old Persian as "Takhme Sepâd", and in Pahlavi language as "Sepâh".[1]

  1. "معنی سپاه - لغت‌نامه دهخدا". www.vajehyab.com. Retrieved 2022-10-22.

--Persmart (talk) 14:32, 22 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Unverified certainty

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Under the "Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752" section, second paragraph, it reads: "...the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) which mistakenly shot down..."

This is a claim by IRGC and the Iranian Government and has not been proven by any independent court. The way the adverb "mistakenly" is used here suggests that it was definitely a mistake. Please either remove this adverb or provide verbiage to suggest that it is IRGC's claim that it was a mistake.

Thank you.

Ben Benjamin Homaii, P.Eng. (talk) 02:26, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

That's not quite how it works here. The statememt that the IRGC accepted responsibility for the incident, but at the same time claimed that is was a "mistake", is clearly supported by a reliable, secondary source. That not only satisfies the basis for the addition of the quoted "adverb", it's also a requirement. What is not a requirement however, is that content be "proven by an independent court" before it's added to an article. For more information on how we build article content, have a look at the 'welcome' template I've added to your user talk page. There is a good deal of useful information there. I would also suggest you check out the Teahouse, a resource for new users, and if you have any questions or need assistance, you can always contact the Help Desk. - wolf 04:35, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Let's look at the sentence again:
On 17 January 2020, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) which mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian passenger plane, were protected by Ali Khamenei in the Friday sermon. He said that the downing was a "bitter" tragedy and additionally declared that "Iran's enemies" used the crash and the military's admission to "weaken" the IRGC.
When I read the first sentence, my understanding is that IRGC mistakenly shot down the plane. This sentence is stated as a fact. Where is the reference source for this fact? There is reference 88, which is irrelevant to this sentence.
Now, let's look at this article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/flightps752-private-lawsuit-against-iran-alleging-terrorist-activity-1.6034581
This is one credible reference that says the shooting down was not a mistake.
So the sentence should be changed to this: (removing the adverb "mistakenly")
On 17 January 2020, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) which shot down a Ukrainian passenger plane, were protected by Ali Khamenei in the Friday sermon. He said that the downing was a "bitter" tragedy and additionally declared that "Iran's enemies" used the crash and the military's admission to "weaken" the IRGC. Benjamin Homaii, P.Eng. (talk) 05:00, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello again. First, we have two threads here for the same issue, we should continue any further discussion in this thread, and consider the one below closed. As for that sentence, I've already seen it, and it is somewhat clunky. There are actually two items to address, 1) re-writing the sentence to improve the structure and, 2) whether or not the sentence should omit the word "mistakenly". The IRGC's contention that the incident was a mistake is also mentioned in the opening paragraph of the section. (Which, incidentally, is where the source I noted earlier is located as well.) If that is left as is, then I wouldn't oppose the removal of "mistakenly" from the clunky sentence below. I also agree that sentnce should be re-written. I would suggest waiting a day to see if anyone else comments on this. If not, then it shouldn't be a problem to make your suggested change to that sentence, and, if there's nothing to else to address, we can consider this resolved. Sound good? - wolf 06:45, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hi, thank you very much. Right now I do not have any comments on the first part; only the word "mistakenly".
So I agree with your proposal.
Thanks again. Benjamin Homaii, P.Eng. (talk) 12:02, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
No one else has commented, to either oppopse the suggestion or suggest other changes, so I have gone ahead and made the change as suggested above. - wolf 17:06, 20 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2022

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Under the "Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752" section, second paragraph, it reads: "...the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) which mistakenly shot down..."

This is a claim by IRGC and the Iranian Government and has not been proven by any independent court. The way the adverb "mistakenly" is used here suggests that it was definitely a mistake. Please either remove this adverb or provide verbiage to suggest that it is IRGC's claim that it was a mistake. Otherwise, there shall be a reference to an independent court document which recognises the shooting down as a mistake.

Thank you. Benjamin Homaii, P.Eng. (talk) 04:48, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

 Not done Please see response above. Thank you - wolf 04:53, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Melanie Joly

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please change ((Melanie Joly)) to ((Mélanie Joly)) 2601:541:4580:8500:8199:756F:C197:2AFB (talk) 00:35, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

 Done RudolfRed (talk) 01:35, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Transferring this article to its correct name

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The correct translation of the name of this organization from Farsi to English is "Army of Guardians of the Islamic Revolution". it's clear that there was a mistake in the translation. I request that after discussing and expressing opinions here, this article will be transferred to its correct name.

Unfortunately, I do not have the access to do this, and I request the friends who read this text and have access to do this correction. Thank you Alireza numberone (talk) 23:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

That might be the correct translation, but the organization is referred to in English as the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
Including, it seems by the Iranian government:
https://en.mfa.gov.ir/portal/newsview/748198 Vasusrir429 (talk) 16:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

is the website specified correct?

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The website given in the article for the IRGC is sephanews.com That link does not work for me - I am in the UK. Is the link correct, or is it simply that this website is blocked in the UK (and maybe elsewhere)? If the link is incorrect obviously it should be updated. If the website is blocked in certain regions/countries - it would be worthwhile discussing this in the article I think, as it is censorship. Flusapochterasumesch (talk) 15:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Recognition as a Terror Organization

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The page says

"Designated as a terrorist group by
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Israel (IRGC-QF only)"

However, as noted in this list of the Israeli Ministry of Defence: https://nbctf.mod.gov.il/en/Minister%20Sanctions/Designation/Pages/downloads.aspx The IRGC is designated as a terror organization, and there's another former designation to IRGC-QF.

Please change

"Israel (IRGC-QF only)" to "Israel"

in the "Related Articles" section, as well as change "Currently, the IRGC is designated as a terrorist organization by Bahrain, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Sweden and the United States." to

"Currently, the IRGC is designated as a terrorist organization by Bahrain, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, the United States, and Israel." at the end of the first paragraph.

Also, in "Terrorist designation and sanctions", just before Canada it should be added:

"On 15 January 2024, Israel designated the IRGC as a terrorist organization, in addition to IRGC-QF that were designated as a terrorist organization in 2012."

The link above should be added as reference.

Thank you. Midlvl (talk) 09:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

 Not done. I wasn't able to find reliable secondary sources reporting on Israel changing the IRGC's designation. As per WP:NOR, analysis of primary sources like this one should not be the original analysis of the Wikipedia editor. Do you have any published secondary sources for this in Hebrew or Arabic?
Cowlan (talk) 18:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The true translation of theor name is: 'Islamic Revolution' Guardians Corps

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سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی Means the corps of guardians of the 'Islamic Revolution', which means these are guardians of what is called Islamic Revolution, which is different than meaning of a a revolutionary force/guard which is Islamic also. The current wrong title of "Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps" if you translate it back to Farsi, it becomes:سپاه «گارد انقلابی» اسلامی

"Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps" is Wrong. "Islamic Revolution Guardians Corps" is the true name of it. 2A01:5EC0:9016:2833:D459:BFC1:5DC3:C101 (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

"Oversized"

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There's no good word to describe their political influence, so I inserted the clichéd "oversized". Compared their relative size - the whole IRGC has 900,000 members out of 90 million people - they are 1% of the population yet a large proportion of every government body in Iran. I won't be upset if a better term is inserted. Bearian (talk) 03:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Add Australia to the list of governments recognising the IRGC as a terrorist organisation

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In a press conference today (~3:00 am Tuesday, August 26 2025 - Greenwich Mean Time) the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese joined with the Foreign Affairs Minister Senator Penny Wong, as well as Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke and Mike Burgess (director-general of security) to announce that ASIO had determined that several anti-Semitic attacks that have occurred since October 7 within Australia were "directed by the IRGC through a series of overseas cutouts, facilitators, to coordinators..." It was additionally said that the Australian government "will legislate to list Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps - the IRGC - as a terrorist organisation."

This was shown live on TV and on the ABC News (Australia) YouTube channel, so I don't have a direct link to an article as this just happened but you can view the conference here. Derpikus41 (talk) 03:44, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done with a reference to an existing ABC News article. - Umby 🌕🐶 (talk · contribs) 04:04, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Aydoh8 Thanks for handling the infobox! Not sure how I missed that. If you want to reconcile the sources so that both of these points to either the one from the ABC or the Australian, then go right ahead. - Umby 🌕🐶 (talk · contribs) 07:03, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tangentially related, has Israel designated them a terrorist organization? I did a brief search, but did not find anything. That strikes me as quite unexpected. Metallurgist (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Name confusion

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The article refers to "The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), also known as the Iranian Revolutionary Guards". Anyone calling it this is simply wrong.

The article lists as a source for the incorrect name a number of news articles which appear to have simply misunderstood the acronym and the IRGC's proper name.

This frequent error should be corrected. Perhaps change "Also known as" to "Also known incorrectly as Iranian Revolutionary"... 110.145.146.94 (talk) 01:29, 27 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Text needs editing re The move

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The section "Response to terrorist organization designation" begins "The move..", and reading through the article gives the impression that that refers to the Australian stuff the preceding paragraphs are about, and if not that, then the international reactions mentioned in the previous section. But reading on, it seems to be merely about something to do with the US, though it's unclear what. Probably "The move" used to make sense here, but it sure doesnt now. ~2025-32918-20 (talk) 06:17, 8 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Possible source for the Analysis section

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This Newlines Institute analysis by Dania Arayssi, 18 June 2025, seems to be complementary to what is currently in Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps#Analysis, but I only browsed quickly, so I'll just put it here for convenience for people more familiar with the Wikipedia article and the sources for it. Boud (talk) 00:41, 2 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Violence in Iran during protests (January 2026)

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According to recent reports compiled by a network of medical professionals, it has been claimed that at least 16,500 protesters were killed and approximately 330,000 injured during unrest in Iran, with some sources mentioning severe eye injuries and cases of permanent blindness among the wounded. These figures have been cited in international media and stem from reports by doctors and rights groups covering the protests and state crackdown. The reported events occurred amid demonstrations that escalated following economic grievances and a nationwide internet blackout beginning on 8 January 2026. Farzad.radjabi (talk) 08:21, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

EU designates IRGC as terror org

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Selective and misleading framing of IRGC role and designations

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The lead and background sections of this article rely heavily on official and constitutional descriptions of the IRGC’s mandate, while giving insufficient weight to widely reported criticisms, human rights records, and international controversies.

This framing removes essential context and may mislead readers by presenting a largely internal justification without proportional coverage of how the IRGC is described and evaluated by independent and international sources.

Per Wikipedia’s NPOV and UNDUE policies, I believe this article would benefit from a more balanced summary that reflects the full scope of reliable reporting. The lead and background sections of this article rely heavily on official and constitutional descriptions of the IRGC’s mandate, while giving insufficient weight to widely reported criticisms, human rights records, and international controversies.

This framing removes essential context and may mislead readers by presenting a largely internal justification without proportional coverage of how the IRGC is described and evaluated by independent and international sources.

Per Wikipedia’s NPOV and UNDUE policies, I believe this article would benefit from a more balanced summary that reflects the full scope of reliable reporting. ~2026-67760-5 (talk) 01:34, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

I agree with this, the first paragraph of this article does not do a good job summarizing IRGC as it is viewed by the international community rather than its own milquetoast descriptions. jwtmsqeh (talk) 20:30, 12 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Anti-anarchism

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It is quite curious that the infobox lists "anti-anarchism" as an ideology of IRGC. This extremely obvious, given the IRGC is a part of the Islamic Republic and shares its authoritarian ideology. But is there any reliable source that stresses "anti-anarchism" as a part of IRGC's ideology? I propose to remove "anti-anarchism" from the infobox. ~2026-13368-62 (talk) 13:56, 1 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

It seems a little unserious, you could theoretically describe every army as "Anti-Anarchist" ~2026-10020-95 (talk) 15:00, 1 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Nationalist ideology?

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The IRGC has become overtly Iranian nationalist over the last decade and the infobox should mention it ~2026-14871-55 (talk) 20:49, 7 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Nationalist? Is the IRGC nationalist? For them, nationalism is more like a short-term political propaganda. For example, it can be mentioned that Iran was not mentioned in their name, or when after the Twelve Day War, statutes of Sassanid Kings were collected from the squares and etc. ~2026-15943-23 (talk) 15:40, 13 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I don't necessarily disagree but you need sources for this claim if you want it included in the article. You should also explain where in the article you want it placed. Make an edit request. HarvardJock (talk) 08:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2026

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The article erroneously implies that the moto of the IRGC in Arabic translates to “Prepare against them (the enemies) what you believers can of military power.”

Please note that this is incorrect, there is no word for “military” in the Arabic slogan of the IRGC, therefore the translation is misleading. The slogan simply translates to “ Prepare against them (the enemies) what you believers can of power.”

The duty of care to your audience requires the deletion of the word “military” from the article. ~2026-20459-90 (talk) 10:46, 3 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Please provide a source to support your translation. The translation of the Quran currently linked to in the article has it as "military power". Day Creature (talk) 15:58, 3 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Switzerland: Motion to classify the terrorists.

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A motion was filed in the national assembly to classify the IRGC correctly and effectively outlaw them.

Certainly, this is interesting due to Switzerland's status as a neutral entity in international law. Theoretically, it could have an impact on defrauded funds – though in practice the current US pressure should suffice to see to that. ~2026-26886-94 (talk) 00:27, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply