Talk:Inauguration of Pope Leo XIV

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The result was: promoted by Kingsif talk 22:14, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

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Saint Peter's Square during the inauguration

• ... that some people chanted "USA, USA!" at the inauguration of Pope Leo XIV?

• Source: O'Connell, Gerard (18 May 2025). "Pope Leo XIV at inaugural Mass: 'This is the hour for love'". America Magazine. Retrieved 19 May 2025.

• • ALT1: ... that 200,000 people attended the inauguration of Pope Leo XIV? Source: Bigg, Matthew Mpoke; Povoledo, Elisabetta (18 May 2025). "Pope Leo XIV's Inaugural Mass Draws World Leaders and Catholic Faithful". The New York Times. Retrieved 19 May 2025.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nihilism, Template:Did you know nominations/HMS Sheffield (C24)
  • Comment: I find ALT0 to be more fun and hooky, but submit ALT1 as a backup.

Converted from a redirect by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 40 past nominations.

~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 15:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Everything looks good here. Partial to ALT0 just because the second one is kind of a self-report by the Vatican. Either would probably be fine though since it's NYT we're talking about. Great work as usual! ThaesOfereode (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

GA review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Papal inauguration of Pope Leo XIV/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Darth Stabro (talk · contribs) 15:42, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: GoldRomean (talk · contribs) 01:44, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I'll take this. Please note, however, that it may take me a while (possibly up to a week or two), depending on how busy I will be; if this is going to be a problem, apologies, and please let me know so I can end the review and let someone else take this. Best, GoldRomean (talk) 01:44, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Criteria

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Source review

 Pass - S1. Representing the cardinal deacons... then bestowed the Ring of the Fisherman upon the pontiff. GoldRomean (talk) 02:36, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

 Pass - S4. Leo expressed a desire for unity and communion in the Church and in the world. GoldRomean (talk) 02:36, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

 Pass - S11. After his inauguration, Leo met with Peruvian president Dina Boluarte... GoldRomean (talk) 02:42, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

 Pass - S42. Saudi Arabia, Minister of Foreign Affairs Adel al-Jubeir and Prince Faisal bin Sattam Al Saud GoldRomean (talk) 02:42, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Sources are all good. Excellent job on this. Ref layout looks fine as well. GoldRomean (talk) 02:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Images

Copyright

1. Public Domain
2. CC BY-SA 4.0
3. CC BY-SA 2.5
4. Public Domain
5. CC BY 2.0
6. Public Domain
7. Public Domain

Note: It looks like #3 is nominated for deletion on Commons. Funnily enough, the reason is that it is a clone of another image, which is also nominated for deletion for being a "inferior version" of the current image. Either way, the discussions aren't GA image criteria-related; plus, if the current image does get deleted, it shouldn't be too hard to replace with the other one. GoldRomean (talk) 02:56, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

 Pass, caption review to follow. GoldRomean (talk) 02:56, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Captions

• 5. Center italicized ((center))? GoldRomean (talk) 04:00, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:36, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• 6. Gustavo Petro, President of Colombia, and Leo - possibly change to something like President of Columbia Gustavo Petro and Leo, to erase any confusion? Or maybe Leo with Columbian president Gustavo Petro, or something of the sort. GoldRomean (talk) 04:00, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

  Hm, I like how it is now as it avoids an MOS:SEAOFBLUE. Welcome to changing it, but that's my reasoning. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:37, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• 7. To avoid repetition of "U.S.", possibly Marco Rubio and JD Vance, Secretary of State and Vice President, respectively, of the United States. Or not is fine by me too; that's kind of wordy. GoldRomean (talk) 04:00, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Prose review

Feel free to disagree, just let me know why. Signing for ease of reply, if you use visual editor. I will provide things in an "X to Y" format or just give the suggested edit with changes bolded.

Lead

• While this isn't too big of a problem, generally, the lead ideally shouldn't have any sources. As a summary of everything in the article, the info in the lead should be mentioned and cited elsewhere, if that makes sense. GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

  Usually I try to do that, but the cited things in the lead really don't fit that well anywhere else. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Ceremony

• where attendees shouted Viva il Papa! (Long live the Pope), "USA, USA!" to where attendees shouted Viva il Papa! (Long live the Pope!), and "U-S-A", GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:40, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• land of birth link to Chicago, or say country of birth GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:40, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• the liturgy formally began - new paragraph. GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:41, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• by two deacons holding the Ring of the Fisherman and the papal pallium, as well as cardinals and bishops to by cardinals, bishops, and two deacons holding the Ring of the Fisherman and papal pallium GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

  Hmmm, I don't think this works well as it could make it sound as if the cardinals and bishops are also holding the ring and pallium. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:41, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• the traditional Laudes Regiae chant was also sung GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

  I don't think "also" works here as the Tu es Petrus was not sung in procession, but rather while they were in the grotto. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:42, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• Link Easter? GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

  Linked Eastertide ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:42, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• the first reading from Acts 4:8-12 was to the first reading, from Acts 4:8-12, was (same with the second reading from 1 Peter 5:1-5, 10-11) GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:46, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• referencing Leo's native tongue GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:46, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• the Gospel, John 21:15-19, was - (comma) GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:47, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• from the Diocese of Fort Wayne–South Bend GoldRomean (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:47, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• subsequently chanted in Greek - remove "chanted" GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

  I think this makes the construction a little awkward to remove. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:48, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• finally, for the cardinal bishops, Luis Antonio Tagle then bestowed GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:49, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Homily

• Leo began his sermon by thanking those who were present, and remembering - remove comma GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

• he condemned the exploitation GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

  I don't think the definite article works best here as he wasn't referring to a specific instance. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:50, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• with "fear and trembling", Leo said, he would approach the Church as a brother and servant to Leo said he would approach the Church as a brother and servant with "fear and trembling" GoldRomean (talk)

  Rephrased ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:52, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• recalling the two-fold aspects of ministry entrusted to Saint Peter, love and unity. Leo expressed a desire for unity and communion in the Church to recalling the two-fold aspects of ministry entrusted to Saint Peter; love and unity, expressing a desire for unity communion in the Church - try to also find a way to avoid mentioning "unity" twice so close together GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

  incl in above ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:52, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Subsequent activities

• St. Peter's - the basicllica or the square? GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:52, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• Leo also met with Gustavo Petro GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:53, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• Bartholomew, the ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople; GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:54, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• and Gerardo Werthein - remove "and" GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:55, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

• Leo then took possession of the other major basilicas in the days following the inauguration to In the days following the inauguration, Leo took possession of the other major basilicas GoldRomean (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

   Done ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:55, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Comments

The initial review is complete. Putting on hold, you have 7 days to address the comments. Overall great job. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 18:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Ping: @Darth Stabro. Also, the UN delegation needs a source! GoldRomean (talk) 18:10, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, GoldRomean. I'd appreciate it if you're able to extend the revision time by a bit, you've caught me at a time when I'm about to be out of town for a week. I'll try to get at the revisions soon after I return. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 15:25, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@Darth Stabro - No worries! Take your time, I can give you until August for now, and more if needed :). GoldRomean (talk) 17:07, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@GoldRomean: initial concerns have been addressed, other than a few things I disagreed with and left my reasoning on. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

@Darth Stabro - looks good, will take a look later today and probably pass. And noticed that this is today's DYK, so congrats :D. GoldRomean (talk) 16:45, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Ok, later today... or right now. Passing. GoldRomean (talk) 16:47, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

C2d: Earwig gives 30.1% . Some WP:CLOP, but pass. GoldRomean (talk) 18:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

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Requested move 21 December 2025

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 21:45, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

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• Papal inauguration of Pope Leo XIV → Inauguration of Pope Leo XIV
• Papal inauguration of Pope Francis → Inauguration of Pope Francis
• Papal inauguration of Pope Benedict XVI → Inauguration of Pope Benedict XVI
• Papal inauguration of Pope John Paul II → Inauguration of Pope John Paul II
• Papal inauguration of Pope John Paul I → Inauguration of Pope John Paul I

– Being WP:CONCISE, similar reasoning to the discussion about moving all the conclave articles from "[year] papal conclave" to "[year] conclave". There really aren't any other inauguration events about the popes, so there's no need to specify the type; "Pope" is already in the name. Sources also don't tend to say "papal inauguration", but simply "inauguration"; cf. sources on the respective pages. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 21:24, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Support, it's redundant to repeat pope/papal twice DCAllStar (talk) 23:15, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk • contribs) 02:25, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
• Support per the Department of Redundancy Department. Moscow Mule (talk) 23:16, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

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